The Biochemistry Challenge to Darwin
American Thinker,
by
John Dale Dunn
Original Article
Posted By: M2,
11/23/2019 6:52:41 AM
The AT commenters responses to my book review of Foresight: How the Chemistry of Life Reveals Planning and Purpose, by Physical Chemist, Spectrometrist Researcher Dr. Marcos Eberlin were, in many cases, well informed and insightful, but one extraordinary commentary was provided by Dr. Ronald Cherry of East Tennessee, who is board certified in four specialties of medicine and an energetic researcher in matters of biochemical cellular physiology and micro anatomy and physiology.
Dr. Cherry provided me with a commentary titled “Zero Probability for Self-Generated Life” that I found compelling and worth summarizing and discussing for the many who are interested in the debate on the origination of life
Reply 1 - Posted by:
franq 11/23/2019 7:03:52 AM (No. 242898)
Look around and think. That's all it takes to demolish "goo-to-you" evolutionism.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MattMusson 11/23/2019 7:09:22 AM (No. 242906)
To date, there have been zero realistic theories of how DNA evolved. Evolutionists believe...
"Somewhere in a pool of primordial ooze or during the formation of an ancient crystal: A Miracle Occurred"
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 11/23/2019 8:30:50 AM (No. 243002)
Dunn concludes: "I don’t know the nature or identity of the designer, but I must posit design when I see it."
Mr. Dunn, there's a really easy way to get to know the nature and identity of the Designer. He wrote a book that perhaps you've heard of. It's called the Bible.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
BarryNo 11/23/2019 8:55:05 AM (No. 243040)
Reminds me of some old humor from 40-50 years ago.
Scientist and God are in a challenge to create life. God turns to the scientist and says, "To make things even, you have to make your own dirt.
Chicken and the egg, indeed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Highlander 11/23/2019 8:56:28 AM (No. 243045)
“Only a fool says in his heart, there is no God.”
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
toddh 11/23/2019 10:26:46 AM (No. 243161)
If it's designed, it was a terrible designer. A demiurge, as the Gnostics believed. For who would "design" crippled children, or who would "design" cancer, other than a malevolent false creator?
And once we get one Demiurge, there will be copycat creators. I am looking forward to American "Thinker" defending the Nation of Islam's belief in Yakub, evil creator of white people. Then they can join the "History" Channel and explain how the Creator was a space alien.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DeplorableVet 11/23/2019 10:36:10 AM (No. 243170)
If what you claim to be god is in fact alive, would that not be proof of self-generated life?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 11/23/2019 10:54:48 AM (No. 243200)
The more you know about science, especially the exceptionally complex science of life, the harder it is to believe that was no "Designer", who we call God.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics shows that in all things entropy must inevitably increase. A simpler way to say it, for most ordinary purposes is that "disorder" must always increase, and things do NOT naturally arrange themselves in a more ordered way. The stars eventually consume all their fusion fuel and go out. All things wind down into more disorder, stars never suddenly reverse direction and become younger.
If you have a bunch of colored marbles, sorted into different bags by color and dump them out onto the floor, they do NOT stay arranged by color, they are disordered, "information" (order) is destroyed spontaneously, not spontaneously created. The Second Law allows for small portions of systems to be temporarily decreased in entropy (locally increasing order), but at the cost of greater entropy elsewhere. We can make a car run down the road, but we must drill for petroleum, break it down to gasoline, and throw away 65% of the heat energy as waste, all increasing entropy around it, so that we can increase it locally to drive to the store or to visit our sister many states away. Overall, increasing disorder.
Life is ORDER, life is decreasing entropy, and it fights against the dictates of the universe, identified in the Second Law - for a while, because all living things eventually fail, die and go back to their dust - disorder and increased entropy is our ultimate fate.
But to have, however briefly, made this incredibly complex, highly ordered, self-replicating system that we call human life to WORK, and to think and reproduce - defies the Second Law entirely, in a permissible, local way. Human life is increasing order, very complex increasing order and decreasing entropy and that does not happen spontaneously. This is why life is unique.
And life arising spontaneously from nothing was a billion times more impossible to just happen on it's own, from non-living things as it is for randomly mixed colored marbles to rearrange themselves by colors as they are poured out on a carpeted floor.
There has to be a Designer, our God.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 11/23/2019 11:29:42 AM (No. 243255)
And who imputed "life?" Scientists can create chemical compounds of all sorts, some very complex, but no one can create a human cell and gift it with self-determination and independent function. Explain how DNA came about, and prove it in the lab, and we can discuss "evolution," but until that time, stop telling me how amoebas became apes, ad nauseam.
God creates PERFECT as that is what a perfect God does. Mankind was created perfect, but the fall of man in the Garden introduced genetic defects, disease, and a limited lifespan. Wait until science discovers that the carnivorous animals of today were capable of being vegetarians, as they were when man was in the Garden. The Bible says it is so, so shall it be proven.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
preciosodrogas 11/23/2019 11:38:07 AM (No. 243269)
The scientist have a answer to that issue of evolution, same one as always. It goes something like this, we scientists have discovered new evidence regarding the time span it took to allow (to borrow the word) the disorder to "evolve" into order. The fact of the matter is that the world is 3 trillion years old. Everything is as we( evolutionists) have held it to be except, after discovering the Earth is magnitudes older than first thought. We have properly calibrated our "age-o-meter" and we are now coirrect. b
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jlw509 11/23/2019 1:19:37 PM (No. 243370)
#11, the closest science can come to "zero probability" is if probability is less than one divided by the number of objects in the universe, including each and every proton, electron, neutron, etc. as an "object." This is the "eddington number", 10^86. There is an important caveat - this is the observable universe. Beyond the observable universe, we don't have any idea how big the universe is.
However, the mathematical probability of a self-assembled usable protein is less than 1/eddington number.
It does not matter how many trillion years the Universe has been in existence. Trillion? Pfft.
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franq 11/23/2019 3:03:10 PM (No. 243424)
#7, there is no satisfying explanation of why God allows evil; even more - if He could foresee it, why didn't He prevent it? All I believe is that to recognize "evil", you are forced to recognize "good". Where did good come from, and why? Lame reasons like "It benefits survival" fall flat. Why is survival "good"? This brings one to the existence of God, and accepting or rejecting His revelation in Jesus.
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