The silenced majority in America's
crazed abortion debate
The Week,
by
Damon Linker
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
5/18/2019 6:26:45 AM
Abortion is tragic in the strict sense of the term. It's an act that pits fundamentally irreconcilable absolute rights against each other — the pregnant woman's right to determine what happens to her own body without state interference against the right to life of the fetus she carries inside her womb. Anyone who adopts an absolute position on the issue, denying the moral weight of the case for the opposite view, does so through an act of willful, ideologically motivated simplification.
In a country where laws reflected this tragic reality, abortion would be safe and legally available early on in pregnancy, while freely available birth control
Reply 1 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 5/18/2019 6:45:19 AM (No. 66657)
Both the holocaust and abortion leave me wondering one thing - how many potential Einstein’s went up the chimney and how many ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
udanja99 5/18/2019 7:04:34 AM (No. 66661)
Here’s your “act of willful, ideologically motivated simplification” - killing a child is murder, no matter the age of the child.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MattMusson 5/18/2019 7:23:54 AM (No. 66671)
Under Trump, the GOP has actually become more populist and mainstream center. But, the Dems and the MSM are now the Extremist Left. Their going off the deep end makes us look like we are farther right in comparison.
We all ignored the Abortion elephant in the room until the Dems started passing full-term abortion laws and infanticide. And, surprise! We pushed back. What did they think would happen?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
NancyD 5/18/2019 7:31:37 AM (No. 66674)
The argument "the pregnant woman's right to determine what happens to her own body" is fine, However it's Not the Woman's body that is being killed, it's the infants.
The other argument is its not fair to force a woman to carry a baby if she was raped. I'd like to know how many pregnancies are a result of rape. In reality, I bet less than 2 percent.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bpl40 5/18/2019 7:36:17 AM (No. 66676)
If you split the difference with evil, you get evil. That is its nature. Abortion is na act violence whenever undertaken. It is not like cutting nails or getting your hair done. We have to first accept that as a society. Once past that the discussion of when and under what circumstances this act is acceptable can be had. No society allows an individual to commit an act of violence affecting other life on their own. Police controlling a violent crowd need permission to fire. If done on their own they can be guilty of man slaughter. Same principle should apply here. Abortion in the first trimester after a court has weighed the circumstances seems the acceptable option. If this is denied women will resort to unsafe methods and more lives be lost. This is reality.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 5/18/2019 7:57:40 AM (No. 66684)
I don't like abortion. I think every life is precious, no matter who or how it happens to come about. I also appreciate that some people may not either be ready to become parents themselves, either because of their age or economic situation. But there are around 700k abortions performed annually in the US while at the same time there are about 2MM couples waiting to adopt a baby. And there is a plethora of birth control options available-you really have to be a special kind of lazy & stupid to accidentally become pregnant. So to avoid abortion, either abstain from sex, or employ birth control, or give up your child for adoption. Those are 3 very suitable alternatives to abortion. Abortion should only be considered in cases of rape, incest, or pregnancies dangerous to the life of the mother. Merely ending someone's life because they are an inconvenience is the definition of evil.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Vesicant 5/18/2019 8:47:24 AM (No. 66704)
The "pro-choice" position is really the position of never having to make choices -- just have sex, don't bother to use birth control, just terminate the pregnancy if you want to, nothing to think about in any of that. The whole point of being a libterd is doing whatever you want without thinking about it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
BarryNo 5/18/2019 8:51:36 AM (No. 66706)
If you have consensual sex, without protection, you have a moral obligation to the result. If you have a pregnancy from involuntary sex or incest, or cooercian. HE has all the obligation, but you are carrying a human within you. Even if you give it up for adoption, you have that much obligation.
Life is life.
When you consider the pervasive use of fake information used to argue FOT Roe vs Wade - the sheer fraud; it should have been revisited and renounced decades ago. We are living in a new holocaust. My father was a legal council after WWII who moved through Germany for a year, taking evidence interviewing suspects and witnesses. Most pretended they had no idea what was going on, 'just over the hill's. We're pretending these babies arent human.
Democrats used to do this in slavery debates. To them blacks weren't human, either.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Yuban 5/18/2019 9:05:49 AM (No. 66721)
Killing the unborn child does not do away with the rape or incest. You cannot do an evil act and expect other evil acts to disappear. If a mother and her one month old child were drowning in the river and you could save only one, which would it be? There is a car accident and the car is on fire. Do you save the mother or the child? Life is full of tough choices. Saving innocent children should never be considered a tough decision.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
LoneVoice 5/18/2019 9:22:50 AM (No. 66735)
#4 Women apparently have the right to decide that they were raped months and even years after consensual sex. So who knows what percentage of aborted babies came from actual rape?
Feminist logic will dictate that that if she did't want the baby then the sex must have been rape.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
starboard 5/18/2019 9:52:27 AM (No. 66758)
Yesterday on a talk radio show, I heard a theory that this Abortion dust up is being fomented by the Left to create an issue they can campaign on against the Right and possibly to be used as a distraction for the FBI/ DOJ scandal.
The host of the radio show said, if this is the Dems aim, the timing is way too early for the 2020 election, stating the hysterics of this story will be long gone by then. Perhaps, we may see the Dems start to throw everything they have up against the wall to see what sticks. Be prepared for more, they are that crazed.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Scout Finch 5/18/2019 10:26:36 AM (No. 66782)
Why is it that supposedly intelligent women only begin to "worry" about the rights to their bodies AFTER they've had sex and now have to face the inevitable consequences of having sex. Abortion IS an absolute wrong. That IS a separate human being growing in that womb. Abortion is murder of that human. Period.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 5/18/2019 10:30:32 AM (No. 66787)
Aborting a third trimester baby because it wasn't convenient is murder. If not the mom, who is the baby's advocate?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Georgia Peach 5/18/2019 10:39:59 AM (No. 66797)
For a second,I thought the silenced majority was going to refer to the unborn.I do wonder what they would say.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 5/18/2019 11:01:39 AM (No. 66805)
Years ago, a graduate-level course in embryology left me awestruck. The cleavage and differentiation of cells and elegant sequencing that brings about the structure and physiology of a human baby is like an eloquent symphony, but complex beyond even the greatest masters. My sense of awe was multiplied a few years later when I became a programmer and understood that the sequence that becomes a life in the womb requires sophistication beyond my capacity and far beyond any material process, and could only be accomplished by a Creator.
The reason abortion is tolerated and even lauded by some is widespread ignorance. If we required the teaching of embryology in schools in the same manner that we are so insistent on teaching sex education, then abortion would soon disappear.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
virbots 5/18/2019 11:05:00 AM (No. 66806)
There is no conflict in rights as articles states because our rights come from God, not from people in black robes. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. And there is no right to it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 5/18/2019 11:42:39 AM (No. 66819)
If the women wanted true control over their bodies, they would not get pregnant in the first place. And spare me the complaints about how birth control is such a hassle or that it doesn't work. Giving an innocent baby the death penalty for simply coming into being because a women is thoughtless is morally wrong in any thinking society. There are plenty of couples out there who would love to adopt a baby rather than see it killed. Bear in mind, that I am a woman who feels this way about some of these thoughtless women on the left.
If these women are tired of pro lifers and the rest of us criticizing them for their promiscuity, they need to stop demanding that taxpayers pick up the tab for their bad life choices. Grow up women, and start acting like adults. That means you shouldn't expect the rest of us to clean up YOUR bad choices. Take our skin out of your game and you remove most of the reasons for us criticizing you. But then there are some of us who will always be on the side of the baby no matter what.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Ben Around 5/18/2019 11:43:13 AM (No. 66820)
What about the RESPONSIBILITY of a woman to use birth control if she is having sex and doesn't want a child to result?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
SALady 5/18/2019 11:53:25 AM (No. 66824)
#4, according to the CDC (hardly a "right wing" pro-life group), abortions due to rape account for less than 0.5% of all abortions!!!!
Add another 3% of abortions because of medical issues with the unborn baby. Definitely Nazi-like justification for killing "undesirable" babies.
That means over 96% of abortions are done for "convenience issues" for the woman. "It's not a good time to have a baby", "I don't want another baby", " I don't have time because of my career/education to have a baby right now", "I was drunk and didn't mean to have sex", etc, etc, etc. None of which are even remotely justifiable reasons to kill an unborn baby that didn't do anything wrong.
But what do you expect from the Demon-Rat Party, that has replace God with every evil ideology they could find over the last 50 years?!?!?!?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Agent Orange 5/18/2019 1:18:18 PM (No. 66863)
I lost two sons to being born too early. Patrick was born a live at 27 weeks and weighted in at 2.2 pounds, that was 1978. At the time he was too small to survive, born today he would be able to grow up to be an asset to his community and life.
I lost another son to a difficult pregnancy. Andrew was born via an emergency C section in order to save my wife's life. She had a Placentia Previa and was bleeding to death and they had to take Andrew. He was born at only 19 weeks. He was my son, he was all there and he weighted in at 13 ounces. I held him in my arms for 24 hours until he died. There was nothing medical science could do to sve him. But he was not a fetus, he was my son. A living, breathing human being.
I would like to ask any man or woman, doctor or nurse to look me in my eyes and tell me it's okay to kill and baby. Abortion is not a procedure, but the killing of an unwanted human is murder.
But, I have no problem with a woman that wants a safe legal abortion, my only problem is that she wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill. And if planned parenthood is a non-profit, how are they able to take taxpayer funding and donate $50 million to the evil demon-craps?
MSgt USAF (ret)
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
garyhope 5/18/2019 2:39:47 PM (No. 66889)
Isn't birth control cheaper and safer than abortion? Can't we afford free birth control as a prosperous nation to stop unwanted pregnancies? Wouldn't it be better than the risks of abortion? Or am I thinking this just because I'm a man? Can't men and women just say "No" and keep their pants on or use some form of pregnancy prevention. Cheaper? Safer? Am I wrong or naive?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
cor-vet 5/18/2019 3:10:19 PM (No. 66911)
I've always hated single issue voters, like the 2A, health care, taxes, etc., but late term or post birth abortion would be one for me. Thank the Lord that most Republican candidates favor lower taxes, are pro 2A and are against late term or post birth abortions. I have great health care, so that's off the table for me, anyway.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
emmajustin 5/18/2019 3:26:39 PM (No. 66923)
To me it is pretty simple. Either it is a sweet innocent baby in the womb from the moment of fertilization (although it looks like a blob, then seahorse until about 6 weeks), or it is not human, only a blob, just a bunch of cells until magically it becomes a baby upon birth. It is either a baby, with unique DNA, that just needs a safe womb to rest in for 40 weeks, or it isn't. If it is a baby, then abortion kills a baby. If abortion kills a baby, it is wrong. And knowing that abortions from pregnancies from incest or rape account for less than 1%, we don't have to focus on those while tragic. Yes rape or incest is horrible, but the crime is the rape/incest, the criminal is the rapist, and in either case the baby is innocent. Whether the baby was created from an act of love or lust or rape, the baby is still innocent. Punish the baby guy and save the baby.
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