Look at the science and stop the march toward legalized marijuana
Washington Examiner,
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Editorial
Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect,
3/30/2019 6:19:54 AM
The marijuana industry had a good day in Washington Thursday, as the House Financial Services Committee passed a bill to liberalize banking laws covering the industry. This win for pot came after a pretty tough blow: A new study published in the Lancet, a highly respected medical journal, found that high-potency marijuana can make you psychotic. In fact, about half of all cases of psychoses in Amsterdam could be prevented “if high-potency cannabis were no longer available,” the data suggest. The study doesn’t prove causality, but it certainly suggests it may be there. It illustrates the need for more research
Reply 1 - Posted by:
plomke 3/30/2019 7:15:45 AM (No. 17845)
Its not about science.
Its about spoiled stoners getting what they want.
Its about a stupified and compliant populus that won´t mind a very small group of (not stoned) people running the world.
We were warned about the lotus eaters...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
canadiandruid 3/30/2019 7:38:12 AM (No. 17838)
did the editors crawl back inside their bottle after they wrote this....did they remember to abuse someone in a drunken rage on the way? what is much more concerning is the amount of kids in elementary school that are medicated - but move along to the evil weed - nothing to see here
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
StormCnter 3/30/2019 7:50:05 AM (No. 17865)
#2, you are correct about the over-medication of kids, but it´s not a matter of tackling either or, it´s a matter of addressing several medication and drug crises facing us. The stampede toward legalizing marijuana is one of them.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Judy W. 3/30/2019 8:06:37 AM (No. 17841)
Marijuana was brought into the U.S. and heavily pushed on young people during the school year 1963-1964. It was probably Cuba that did it on instructions from the Soviet Union. I was in London from the summer of 1963 to the summer of 1964. When I left, I knew maybe one person who smoked week. When I came back, almost everybody I knew did. It was introduced, pushed, and normalized in that short time frame. My friends had all become more or less weird. I joined in for a short time but I hated its effects and stopped. The communists have always conducted operations that would damage our country and its people, and this was one of their most successful.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Yuban 3/30/2019 9:36:05 AM (No. 17856)
The Libertarian in me says to allow all people to do all drugs, if they so choose. The common sense in me says to stop this nonsense of taking drugs to get high or ´right´. If you are in need to feel really good I suggest the following. Go to Church and sing unto God and praise him on high. Take your loved ones out to dinner and a movie. Park yourself next to a lake, river or stream and feel the miracle of life around you. Go to a concert. Go to a ball game. Sit on your porch in the evening and stare at the stars. Good grief, there is so much in life to get high on without messing up your body and potentially other folks as well.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Muguy 3/30/2019 9:36:34 AM (No. 17849)
The use of CBD oil has proven to be of value.
People don´t get high on CBD oil since there it is produced without THC.
Many states are looking at revising criminal charges with respect to marijuana for small amounts, but when someone who gets high and then gets out of the highway, this puts MY LIFE AT RISK.
There are those who try to make a moral equivalency argument about how alcohol does and is "the same thing", but it really is not.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 3/30/2019 9:44:17 AM (No. 17840)
Just what we need - - another indefinite extension of the "War On Drugs" - - which is now in its 48th year.
The simplest solution is the only legal, Constitutional one - - forbid the government from controlling what free people voluntarily choose to ingest.
Bingo! No more drug cartels - - no more drug murders - - no more drug crime - - no more waste of police functions - - no more corruption from drug payoffs.
Some self-destructive and/or really stupid people will continue to ruin their own lives by taking an excessive amount of narcotic drugs.
But why should that be my problem - - and why should I be forced to surrender my wealth and freedom to help pay for it?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
fayebeck 3/30/2019 9:46:21 AM (No. 17857)
But Pot is "recreational". Change meanings of words to support "rare and safe" abortions and "recreational" and the issue becomes acceptable.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Nevadadad46 3/30/2019 9:50:26 AM (No. 17855)
So a House Committee forward the bill- but that does not mean it will pass and then survive conciliation for the joint passage. Would President Trump sign it even if it did? There is another election to get through, you know.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 3/30/2019 9:55:13 AM (No. 17861)
Ditto’s poster #4. I graduated in1966 and not a single person I knew smoked marijuana or did other drugs. Drug use wasn’t even in the news. But by 1968 it had started to become a scourge. A few years later there were stories about the Castros behind the ‘epidemic’ and I truly believe that’s true. Even a mile long meteor hitting earth 50 years ago couldn’t have brought more disaster to the world. Not in the physical sense but by the loss of lives, families and countries destroyed by the endless wars fought over control by cartels.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MMC 3/30/2019 10:00:32 AM (No. 17860)
The new, improved pot is not the pot of the 60/70’s.. it is 80!times more potent.
Chronic and over use leads to cannaboid hypermeses -throwing up a lot! And a psychotic break..
I am seeing the dangers at the high school level.. and the teens will argue the health benefits - and it is a natural product , not an opioid.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
davew 3/30/2019 10:05:39 AM (No. 17830)
Marijuana smoke contains 50 times the level of benzopyrene as tabbaco smoke which is a known carcinogen. The only reason it doesn´t contribute to the cancer stats is because it isn´t used as frequently as cigarette smokers use tabbaco. The stats will change drastically with legalization.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 3/30/2019 10:23:51 AM (No. 17834)
Crazy how politically soda pop is so bad for you but marijuana is just fine.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Strike3 3/30/2019 10:33:11 AM (No. 17835)
If it weren´t for the ability to drive cars, pot would be the perfect Darwinian way of thinning the herd of lowlife idiots. You already need to be half gone to smoke the stuff and it completes the job of frying one´s brain.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
msjena 3/30/2019 10:41:33 AM (No. 17831)
#13, yes. Liberals want to ban (or heavily tax)sugar and legalize marijuana. Where is Nanny Bloomberg on legalized pot?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
msjena 3/30/2019 10:44:39 AM (No. 17859)
^^ I just checked and Bloomberg, to his credit, opposes legalization of marijuana.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Golden Goose 3/30/2019 11:08:05 AM (No. 17847)
My sister made a trip to Colorado nearly two years ago to say goodbye to a terminally-ill friend. She nearly preceded her friend in death, when a Colorado stoner hit her head-on in a 55 mph zone. She was wheelchair bound for many months, has undergone numerous surgeries with many more to come, and she only recently began walking without a cane.
Marijuana only affects the user. /s
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
stablemoney 3/30/2019 11:13:21 AM (No. 17862)
I don´t need a study. I have seen the psychosis affects of marijuana on college friends. I do not support in any way this idiocy of making marijuana legal. If you need marijuana for a medical issue, go get a prescription from a doctor.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MDConservative 3/30/2019 11:29:52 AM (No. 17848)
Like #5, I am conflicted. However, like #7, I recognize the damage done our society by the ever-expanding "War on Drugs" - let´s now go after the opeoid abusers. They sell rat poison and people are generally smart enough to avoid taking it. Can´t say the same about MJ, or any other illicit drug. It´s time to do two things: End the "War on Drugs", and make clear that your life is your responsibility, not the public´s, not the government´s. Re-hab is on the user.
(And I´m sorry for the pain users/abusers bring to their families...etc.)
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 3/30/2019 11:33:33 AM (No. 17863)
In my state, Colorado could care less about the welfare of it´s young people. Colorado just looks at the added tax revenues from MJ sales for funding its sanctuary City, Denver.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Arby 3/30/2019 11:44:21 AM (No. 17843)
We don´t need a new drug; we need a more rigorous education system, a new democrat party and, perhaps, mandatory military service (or whatever it takes to keep these thumbsuckers from smoking weed, downing munchies and voting).
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These states are like experiments in a test tube, and will provide a result for all of us to observe from a safe vantage point. We have seen what "compassion" for drug addicts has done to the once beautiful Seattle, and now we can access the impact of legal drugs on the entire state of Washington and Colorado.
Unfortunately, the children will pay the price for the foolish adults in their states.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 3/30/2019 12:00:52 PM (No. 17851)
States want TAXES because they spend more than they take in. That is why legalization of Mj is spreading like a WEED. That is why casinos are popping up everywhere. The Government WANTS YOUR MONEY.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
CharlyG 3/30/2019 12:07:14 PM (No. 17858)
UNtil they stop lieing about it being a class 1 drug, I will not listen to "the science". Why should I believe them after 50+ years of smoke and mirrors? If "the science" is true, it would be good to stick to the truth and not bundle it with the Class 1 lie.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 3/30/2019 12:22:45 PM (No. 17832)
The libertarian argument that people should be free to choose their own destiny and use drugs to destroy themselves is only rational in a culture that provides no collective care for the children of the people who destroy themselves or medical services to those who damage themselves with drug use. As long as we are paying for the drug use damages, we have a ´dog in the hunt´ and are justified in restricting drug use.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 3/30/2019 12:38:51 PM (No. 17853)
So how do States extract taxes from kids who have lost their jobs due to frequent marijuana use? Brilliant. s/o
In more primitive societies and times, one had the ultimately strong desire to maintain one´s sobriety and sanity, lest they kill you for being a witch, or rob then kill you. Evidence is overwhelming that we live in pampered times and these generations know nothing of hard times. That may soon change.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
MDConservative 3/30/2019 12:52:37 PM (No. 17836)
#25 - So, it´s collectivism you seek? My troubles are your troubles?
Once upon a time there were two parents in most homes providing some level of guidance and supervision. Funny how that worked. Dads generally worked and Moms generally raised the kids. Churches and organizations reinforced what was displayed at home - things like love, loyalty and respect for self and others.
It is collectivism that is killing us, in the schools, in our social structures, virtually every facet of life. Today it is universal that someone is out to save us from ourselves, whether the issue is obesity, global warming, or cow farts. Today´s topic is MJ legalization...and we´ve been "educating people" and buying into this collective responsibility to help people suffering from this disease for half a century - and it only gets worse and more expensive.
I took care of my kids, despite the culture. Time for others to do the same.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 3/30/2019 1:09:31 PM (No. 17864)
#25 - - So - - because government is already doing un-Constitutional things - - we have to allow it to do more un-Constitutional things to balance out the un-Constitutional things it´s already doing?
If you allow government to ban consumption of some things - - how do you stop it from banning any and every thing it may want to ban?
Individual freedom is the only answer. Un-Constitutional big government should never be tolerated - - for any reason - - because there´s no stopping it once it starts.
How could anyone who visits this forum not understand that?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
StormCnter 3/30/2019 1:25:25 PM (No. 17844)
So, the answer is to allow all things to avoid banning some things? If that is the proposal, why bother with a government at all? Every law is a restraint on someone´s freedom to do as that person pleases.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Rocco49 3/30/2019 1:39:21 PM (No. 17837)
bla bla bla
Many have died for our freedom to choose....
So much ignorance on the subject!
Like YOU decide what I get to choose?
MODERATION, people!
MODERATION!
My Masters thesis in 1980 concluded that MODERATION in usage of any psychoactive substance was the KEY..
Now go have another martini!
s/
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
NotaBene 3/30/2019 1:49:23 PM (No. 17854)
Marijuana messes up your brain. The adolescent brain is rewired at 16-18 (which is why schizophrenia manifests at that age). All these magnificent ideas we have while high end up being nothing at all. Marijuana is a gateway drug. Most opioid addicts start with MJ. While almost everyone drinks alcohol, which has been with us since before biblical times, but few move on to heroin, cocaine and fentanyl.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 3/30/2019 2:06:40 PM (No. 17846)
Legalizing Marijuana is all about money - tax revenues for the greedy states, counties and cities that legalize it.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Lagniappe 3/30/2019 2:41:21 PM (No. 17852)
Experimented with pot in the late 60’s. Didn’t like the way it took the energy out of a rip-roaring party fueled with alcohol.
Observed over the next decade how friends who were heavy into pot just didn’t make much progress through life. A couple of friends ended up in communes in the Northwest, they are still around today, but never recovered their “zest” for life.
Pot reduces motivation, so pot smoking friends just did not make much progress during their 20’s, a stage when individuals begin competing in life, for mates, jobs and careers.
By the way – one of the rebound effects of marijuana is anxiety, so using pot to help with anxiety is actually counterproductive.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 3/30/2019 5:05:29 PM (No. 17850)
Q: What is the difference between government, and organized crime?
A: One calls itself a government.
Our government wants to be the biggest drug cartel. Is it true that China controls the Asian drug cartels?
Don´t kid yourself. Government legalization of marijuana has nothing to do with helping people.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 3/30/2019 5:09:29 PM (No. 17833)
To me, weed is like scotch. I´m not opposed to it, I just don´t like the taste/smell.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Harlowe 3/30/2019 6:48:42 PM (No. 17828)
According to a news report published in 2014, George Soros had spent at least $80 billion since 1994 to get marijuana legalized in the U.S. and Uruguay. George Soros and his associates “...have been behind every major marijuana legalization push in the U.S. ...” Not everything legal is morally permissible—because abortion is legal does not mean it is morally permissible in God’s eyes. There is a difference between real “medical marijuana” usage and “self-indulgence” for pleasure—alleviating pain versus purposeful drug-induced euphoric highs. Individuals succumbing to such lifestyles ruled by such acts endanger their spiritual welfare and “...through impenitence jeopardize their inheritance in the kingdom of God.” The “use of drugs falls into the category of self-indulgence, which is the characteristic of all ‘acts of the flesh.’” (Galatians 5:19-21)
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Tianne 3/30/2019 8:42:01 PM (No. 17839)
As #31 states, marijuana is a gateway drug. Not all marijuana users go on to use heroin, etc. but it has been proven that almost to a person, heroin, etc., addicts began their downfall with marijuana.
And #32 is correct - legalizing marijuana is all about the money - especially the local and federal governments.
The local news was recently heralding a university that was boasting that they were the first school that was going to offer classes with re to growing and marketing marijuana - "the business side of it". The professor being interviewed stated that they were preparing their students for the "real" future - that legalizing marijuana was just the start of new multi-billion dollar opportunities and he wanted his students to be at the forefront and ready.
The professor giving the interview was openly ecstatic (maybe a little high?) about the new class offerings . He also was very happy to report that the coming classes were already filled to capacity.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Smart11344 4/2/2019 1:46:57 PM (No. 17842)
I am still proud of my marijuana position. 75 years old and have nevr tried it. The smell of it makes my nose run like Niagra Falls.
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