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A well-worn argument about race, intelligence
and violence

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Posted By: earlybird, 6/26/2021 2:12:51 PM

The latest totem in our hyperpartisan and politically polarized culture war is the terminology around race relations in America. (snip)Not only do the two sides respond differently to the question of whether the United States is a racist country, they can’t even seem to find common ground on the definition of racism. Charles Murray, co-author of the contentious 1994 book “The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life,” doesn’t so much enter the fray as he stakes out his well-trod turf. In his latest offering, “Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America,” Murray doubles down on the assertions from the most controversial chapters in “The Bell Curve”

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This is a book review by a black man, published in the liberal Washington Post. I recommend that you keep that in mind while reading the review, and then get the book which can probably be checked out as an e-book via your local library. Charles Murray, in The Bell Curve, had contended that blacks had lower intelligence and greater tendency toward violence. I am reading this new book now.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: RuckusTom 6/26/2021 2:58:29 PM (No. 827397)
Crime stats don't lie. A real eye opener is black on white rape and white on black rape.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JL80863 6/26/2021 3:28:21 PM (No. 827404)
Blacks between the ages of 17 and 25 are responsible for more than 50% of all arrests for murder in the US. What would happen if this were any other demographic?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Pete Stone 6/26/2021 3:42:19 PM (No. 827411)
Paywall alert. If you don't subscribe they still want your e-mail before they let you read. Sorry Jeff -- no go.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Grounded 6/26/2021 3:54:46 PM (No. 827420)
Jesse Jackson once averred in a rare moment of honesty that he got really nervous when he found himself being followed a group of Black youths on a city street.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 6/26/2021 4:37:39 PM (No. 827445)
Is there even one (1) black person in the United States who believes that, in a world of perfectly equal opportunities, advantages and horizons for every child of every race, ending barriers to every occupation for everyone, that 60% of the players In the NBA (the overall population of whites in the country) or 60% of NFL cornerbacks (current white share: 0%) would be white guys? Putting it more bluntly is there even (1) black person (or for that matter, too many more whites) who doesn't there is a net genetic edge in speed and jumping among black people? C'mon.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 6/26/2021 4:54:33 PM (No. 827453)
Depending on year and location, blacks commit between 60% and 80% of all violent crime. Hard facts. You can make whatever points for discussion that you want on WHY that might be. It seems to me to be largely cultural, but how much of that culture is carried over the centuries from Africa and how much is modern behavior patterns, I have no idea. And I cannot fix it from outside the culture, if that is the reason. This can be an endless discussion, and no final answer is ever possible as to "why". But, it is a hard fact. The overwhelming majority of violent crime is done by blacks. An important 'added fact' is that the majority of their victims are black, too. But ultimately, they harm people of every race. This problem needs to be addressed by black cultural leaders. All efforts to blame this on racism just make it worse by avoiding the self-control part of being non-violent. Saying "it's whitey's fault" just gives license to some people to be more violent, thinking that "it's not my fault" or "I have a right to steal this or harm this person". That is unacceptable. That is uncivilized. Until blacks figure out a way to change their ultra violent culture, they will continue to act violently, and will be arrested and convicted, and shot and killed in great numbers by police and armed citizens. THEY are in charge of what direction this goes in. Violent behavior is not acceptable to society, it must stop.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rightfromthestart 6/26/2021 7:40:55 PM (No. 827544)
I would be curious to see the crime statistics broken down even further as to where the black criminals originate , I suspect blacks from the one time British islands or Africa commit crimes at a much lower rate than blacks in the US since slavery days, I believe it’s the culture and the education rather than the melanin.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/26/2021 9:08:02 PM (No. 827582)
Let's back up a second. There is a black middle class and they don't live in "The Community". They left for the same reason whites left...crime and taxes. The left The Community geographically, many did not psychologically. They are victims of the "Remember where you came from" and "Give back" memes. I've mentioned before a woman who worked with me whose son was valdictorian of his high school class, an eagle scout, an all-conference high school football player...the kid you would make anyone proud as their own. He got a full academic scholarship to a prestigious private college. His parents, solidly middle class, were scared to death that their son would go over to the dark aside, the yo boy crowd, before he left for his freshman football camp. His mother told me he was constantly pressured by these fellows, loading him up on how whitey was setting him up for failure unless he became one of their house n...ers. They sent him to school early, with the help of the coach. Eventually he graduated with honors and was invited to an NFL camp as an undrafted free agent. He declined to attend law school. The last I heard he was doing well in law school. Good luck to him. The Community never stops demanding fealty. It is a purveyor of a "lowest common denominator" lifestyle.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: udanja99 6/26/2021 10:05:25 PM (No. 827612)
#6, I’ve come to believe that African tribalism is still in the DNA of black Americans. Why else do they kill each other at such an alarming rate? If a study were done which compares the employment levels of black American women vs black American men, the ratio just may be very close to that of African tribes where the women work and the men loll around. How often do you see a group of black women just hanging out on a street corner compared to black men?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 6/27/2021 9:37:19 AM (No. 827946)
#9 The imputation of skin color (DNA) having anything to do with success or failure is a purely alt-right-neo-nazi fallacy and does not belong here on Lucianne.com. The article and other commenters just got through talking about culture and its manipulation being the source of the problem...and yet you wish to imply genetics?! What kind of a fool do you take us for? Go back to Gab or Storm Front.
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