New study investigates California's possible
herd immunity to COVID-19
KSBW-TV [Salinas CA],
by
Caitlin Conrad
Original Article
Posted By: poster,
4/8/2020 3:10:00 PM
Researchers at Stanford Medicine are working to find out what proportion of Californians have already had COVID-19. The new study could help policymakers make more informed decisions during the coronavirus pandemic.
The team tested 3,200 people at three Bay Area locations on Saturday using an antibody test for COVID-19 and expect to release results in the coming weeks. The data could help to prove COVID-19 arrived undetected in California much earlier than previously thought. The hypothesis that COVID-19 first started spreading in California in the fall of 2019 is one explanation for the state's lower than expected case numbers.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
bedub 4/8/2020 3:20:02 PM (No. 373034)
Husband had chills and fever in late January, was turned away by urgent care center. I had scratchy throat and chest tightening, was seen by Dr but told it was 'allergies'. I don't get allergies. A number of our friends were sick or had mild symptoms during December - March time period. Makes sense, but we shall see! We are in SF Bay Area, East Bay.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Italiano 4/8/2020 3:22:00 PM (No. 373037)
After hearing what the symptoms were, my son is almost positive that he had it in January. He's fine.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Sandpiper 4/8/2020 3:35:15 PM (No. 373057)
Duh!! My son is convinced he and his family had it at the end of last year. We live in South San Jose and many many people in our area travel to China, either for business or family. As for business - most high tech business goes to Wuhan. We live in Silicon Valley, home of high tech. To think our area wasn’t exposed earlier is foolish.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Folsomguy 4/8/2020 3:41:00 PM (No. 373062)
Here in Sacramento County they are locking us down even more today. No groups at all. No tennis, pickleball, basketball or disk golf. About all e can do is walk and throw a ball around in the park as long as it's with family or members of the household. We can still play golf with very tight restrictions.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
mackrand 4/8/2020 3:45:08 PM (No. 373066)
I’m in Tempe, not far from California, and could swear I had a bout last summer, in July and August 2019, of this Virus. I had a 103º fever and some real tight days in my chest. I was within a day of heading to the hospital and then felt some signs I was over the hump. That hump as I recall was when I started taking Vit C again. I did tell my Cardiologist in January about it but he didn’t seem interested so I just dropped it.
Never had I felt so sick. Not in my life.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 4/8/2020 3:46:57 PM (No. 373070)
Sounds like a good theory. Oregon also has far fewer cases than expected.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Axeman 4/8/2020 4:06:50 PM (No. 373104)
Totally agree with the herd immunity here. The "cold" without a runny nose and the "flu" with no fever or body aches that everyone caught were most likely Wuhan.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
PlayItAgain 4/8/2020 4:07:43 PM (No. 373105)
My wife and oldest daughter were both sick over the holidays. My Daughter visited from CA.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Alecto2 4/8/2020 4:14:15 PM (No. 373121)
Let's destroy the economy first then check for antibodies. Iceland already did this: 50% asymptomatic!! (no or minor symptoms). I'd be laughing it this wasn't so tragic. Fauci and the CDeffinC have screwed us.
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So, does that mean they won't need to shut down the economy again in the Fall?
I'm sure they're looking for some other answer than President Trump restricted air travel from China, and that the medical experts were all wrong in January when they said there was no human-to-human transmission, and how all of the politicians were saying it was okay to go to the Lunar New Year parades and events in Chinatown, how the officials (CDC) didn't request the stay at home until mid-March (after Super Tuesday).
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/8/2020 4:52:26 PM (No. 373162)
I lost count how many people I have heard that had a flu like illness despite a flu vaccine in December/January.
Our son had one in mid January that was quite miserable, lasted everyday of two weeks and responded to no over the counter remedies other than tylenol helping with the fever. He got it one week after we all travelled by plane to and back from S. Florida for our family cruise in early January. He lives with us so I saw it first hand. The rest of us had a little cold but nothing big. And we had all had our flu shot in October. At the time I just figured it was the "cruise crud" which is usually an upper respiratory infection at least one of us gets after taking a cruise or really flying anywhere.
I'd have our whole family do this antibody test in a heartbeat! I am betting many folks even those not on the West Coast but who have travelled by plane or cruise ship or been around someone who has travelled have been exposed and developed some immunity.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Mike22 4/8/2020 4:52:28 PM (No. 373163)
Wife and I both had really weird "colds" with unusual symptoms like chills and chest pressure (N Central Ca). Heart rates and pulse ox stayed fine. Lasted much longer than a normal cold. I needed a decongestant quite often versus never with normal allergies and colds. Chest discomfort was lower in the chest than normal. Extreme lethargy. Lots of friends and acquaintances had "really bad allergies" the last few months. Stores were running out of cold and allergy medicine even before the Wuhan death virus stories broke. We really need instant tests up, running and widely available. Including anti-body tests.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 4/8/2020 6:15:48 PM (No. 373233)
The Malthusians are happy. We must destroy the country to save it.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
peebster 4/8/2020 6:21:06 PM (No. 373239)
Worthwhile study, but why would NY be any different, considering the number of Chinese arriving via aircraft there? With 1000 people living per acre, the subway and busses, older buildings with smaller work spaces, it seems like NY is a harder place to social distance. CA is larger, more spread out and everybody is alone in their Tesla.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
kono 4/8/2020 7:35:23 PM (No. 373321)
Wishful thinking? Sounds more likely that California's curve began flatter, due to earlier introduction of shelter-in-place and social-distancing. More avoided getting it during the first wave through the U.S., so we're likely to get a second wave of infections and fatalities when stay-at-home orders start to be lifted. Watch it turn out that the places that let the virus crisis blaze and pass will wind up being the first places where freedom is feasible again. Italy, Spain, and Britain might lead the way out of the economic and social paralysis.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Aud 4/8/2020 10:39:39 PM (No. 373425)
Isn’t this what Rush has been speculating about all last week and part of this?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MDConservative 4/8/2020 10:49:41 PM (No. 373427)
It couldn’t be that COVID-19 is less virulent than “experts” warned. It couldn’t be the public was boosted into hysteria over not much. People amazingly trusted people and agencies that they wouldn’t have trusted for the correct time a few weeks ago.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden 4/9/2020 1:36:35 AM (No. 373456)
Several friends in our church in Cupertino think they too had it, as do I, since I travel there each weekend from Monterey to worship and care for our two Grandblessings each Monday... but symptoms were not usual ones, until I watched a Mayor Giuliani ‘Common Sense’ interview with NY dr... I felt like I did when counting backwards from anesthesia, 10, 9, 8... completely out! Bingo! Plus, several other symptoms... only lasted 36 hours, by the grace of God.
Will give plasma asap to share if antibody is there, or plasma if not... a win-win!
KAG
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