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Mueller reveals tenuous link between
Manafort charges and Trump

Washington Examiner, by Byron York

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Posted By:Drive, 7/11/2018 6:40:14 AM

It´s often been observed that special counsel Robert Mueller, assigned to investigate alleged Trump-Russia collusion in the 2016 presidential campaign, has yet to charge anyone with a crime involving Trump-Russia collusion in the 2016 presidential campaign. The biggest of Mueller´s indictments, that of one-time Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, has no connection at all to collusion. And until a few days ago, it appeared to have no connection to Donald Trump, either. Now, though, Mueller has revealed why he believes the Manafort prosecution is related to the 2016 Trump campaign. It´s a small part, a very small part, of the overall charges


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Reply 1 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 7/11/2018 6:51:45 AM     (No. 11690308)

Don´t buy it. Mueller is now getting desperate....very desperate. Let´s shut him down and fire Rosenstein and Sessions.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Clinger, 7/11/2018 7:04:30 AM     (No. 11690317)

Are you kidding me that´s what you have?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jar, 7/11/2018 7:09:04 AM     (No. 11690319)

A joke. But the uninformed far left will think it´s a plum and misrepresent it until it takes on a life of its own.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dagger, 7/11/2018 7:20:59 AM     (No. 11690333)

If I´m reading this right, Mueller is admitting that whatever problems existed in the loan applications, they were known to several bank employees and the senior bank official OKed the loans anyway.

So.... tell me again how the bank was defrauded !

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Reply 5 - Posted by: winnie1, 7/11/2018 7:21:15 AM     (No. 11690334)

I thought Mueller doesn´t leak? Speaking of collusion and screwing cases up let´s go down Memory Lane and see Mueller´s record. Mueller´s handling of the anthrax case, mishandling of the 911 commission findings, screwing up of the Boston Marathon bombing, involved in the uranium One case and last but not least the BIGGIE his acquaintance and working with Whitey Bulger. This is just some of his missteps.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Beca, 7/11/2018 7:52:29 AM     (No. 11690355)

Mueller is beyond desperate

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Reply 7 - Posted by: jhpeters2, 7/11/2018 8:13:50 AM     (No. 11690381)

This is what it boils down to; FTA "The senior executive later expressed an interest in serving in the administration of President Trump, but did not secure such a position" So If Wishes Were Horses Beggars Woulds Ride!

Not only does Mueller have nothing, zip, nada - he has less than nothing on President Trump! Epic fail!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/11/2018 8:14:35 AM     (No. 11690384)

Mueller is beyond despicable.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: chance_232, 7/11/2018 8:15:47 AM     (No. 11690386)

Proof positive of collusion and criminal activity on the part of Trump. Approve a loan, get on the team! SEE....Trump did it!!!

Sarcasm off

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Reply 10 - Posted by: congar, 7/11/2018 8:20:07 AM     (No. 11690393)

What’s next? Mueller riding around in a tiny clown car with a big red nose? And his Trump hit team in a separate car with signs reading “Destroy Trump”?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Italianlooks, 7/11/2018 8:30:39 AM     (No. 11690413)

This is all about the “ six degrees of separation” pick any one or two from NYC and DC, and you will find a link, especially high level folks!

Mueller is viscous and a ego manic just maybe while he was head of the FBI he was the one that turned it into a political operation!

Shame on him and the handling of this investigation, Elmer Flood here, “I’ll get that wabbit”

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ByteGuru, 7/11/2018 8:42:11 AM     (No. 11690433)

That is thin ... real thin evidence. It is thinner than saying that DJT colluded with Putin because DJT put Russian dressing on his salad ... once.

Agree Mueller is getting desperate. He has a $1,000 per hour gig going on and it is starting to look like it is coming to an end. I am not sure what he is afraid of ... he probably has billed enough to pay off the national debt of a small country. Of course there is another way to end it all ... give him a snob-nosed .38 with one bullet in the wheel and tell him to do the honorable thing ... providing he knows what that is.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/11/2018 8:44:43 AM     (No. 11690437)

How many people did interesting stuff that might have gotten them a place on Hillary´s campaign? For a change, questionable things that Hillary had nothing to do with.

Maybe we need a special counsel to check that out?

Is a senior executive approving a loan application that may have had some numbers problems illegal? It may not be a great business practice but that´s an internal business matter. I will bet such things happen frequently.

And the big point is this - NO Russian collusion and NO knowledge by Trump or his campaign of the loan issue. Manafort knew the executive´s interest and eventually the executive got an campaign advisory role. It´s likely the campaign knew nothing of the loan process.

Did Manafort get any traffic tickets during his lifetime? Maybe Mueller can look into those.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: moebellini3, 7/11/2018 8:50:10 AM     (No. 11690446)

Very weak. Its all about getting Trump. Mueller is a freakin joke. These types of loans are approved all the time and Mueller knows it. Years ago democrats forced banks to approve millions of home loans to people they knew were not qualified and could not pay their mortgage. This caused the financial crisis and collapse of our economy. Does Mueller remember that. No, he´s a moron. Got it.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 7/11/2018 9:19:29 AM     (No. 11690491)

Manafort´s crimes are heinous - - despicable!

I have a photo of him signing the loan application with his left hand - - and everyone knows Manafort is right-handed!

This is an outrage against our civilization!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: stablemoney, 7/11/2018 9:44:46 AM     (No. 11690520)

This is the most absurd, narrative invention of logic imaginable. To Mr. Mueller for your edification, which you do not care about. ALL bank loans involve an application that are completed by the applicant to the BEST of their KNOWLEDGE, and signed as such. Practically speaking, NO applicant is an accountant, and almost all applications are incomplete, or incorrect, and almost NONE are audited personal financial statements issued by a CPA. The Bank Could have requested an audited personal financial statement, and if they did not, that is the bank´s omission. (Also note here that is not the Bank that is complaining about the Manafort loan, nor has the Bank indicated they were not repaid, or that the loan is in arrears). As for an officer of the bank approving the loan based on their interest in a place in Trump´s campaign, proving that was the reason for the approval, and not something else, is going to be impossible, especially when that officer gets cross examined by Manfort´s team of lawyers. I don´t think I would want to be that bank officer, so I don´t expect that that bank officer will ever show up. What total hogwash, all of this, and that is a severe understatement.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/11/2018 9:54:03 AM     (No. 11690534)

I wonder if the bank´s loan officer overheard seven wrestlers complain about a pervert doctor who sexually harassed them thirty years ago and did nothing about it. Now THAT would prove Russian collusion.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 7/11/2018 10:13:29 AM     (No. 11690564)

Herr Mueller appears to be ´chasing his tail´ and definitely is making a fool of himself. He should know by now that ´we´re on to him´. He´s a stage hog. I´m tired of my money supporting his nonsense!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: greggojo, 7/11/2018 10:18:09 AM     (No. 11690573)

Theater of the absurd. And since Manafort clearly cannot get a fair trial in the DC area, why is it being tried there. Paul Manafort is sitting in solitary confinement while Mueller and Weissmann are out being wined and dined by their DC cronies. And, Tony Podesta (and thousands of others) who apparently committed very similar "crimes" as those of which Manafort is accused, is sitting safely out of jail, not under investigation and with his millions intact. Paul Manafort´s is being prosecuted/persecuted for his brief involvement with the Trump campaign. And that is not justice.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: john56, 7/11/2018 10:19:37 AM     (No. 11690576)

Yep. There was a link between Trump and Manafort. Manafort was his campaign chairman for a couple months.

I got that info for free.

It´s cost Herr Mueller and his goons several million dollars and a year and a half to figure it out.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/11/2018 10:32:17 AM     (No. 11690590)

FTA:"The two Lender D loans are, apparently, the only connection between the Trump campaign and the broad array of criminal activity, some of it more than a decade old, alleged in the Manafort indictments. And Trump himself played no role in it.

Was a special counsel needed for that?"

Of course it was, especially since the special consel´s objective is to remove a duly elected president via a coup.

What I think would be interesting is to find the quid pro quo Mueller expects from the deep state should his coup be successful; a big beautiful estate with 24/7/365 Gulfstream 5 for life or much to his chagrin and similar to the Soviet Union, a bullet in the back of his head.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: zek, 7/11/2018 11:00:19 AM     (No. 11690633)

Nobody sells a narrative better than the left, then get a jury of Trump haters and you have any feeble charge that lands you in prison.

Never, ever under estimate how low these people will sink and how successful they are at doing it. Remember a month ago everyone was sure half of the FBI was going to be thrown in jail. Remember the IRS scandal, Benghazi, Clinton email server and on and on.

We have about 5 or 6 Congressmen taking on the mafia and the rest of the Republicans hiding in a closet, or worse working against us. Although the facts are in our favor the odds are not.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 7/11/2018 11:06:20 AM     (No. 11690641)

More nonsense.

Once again, this is a fake investigation conducted by a fake investigator and his fake team at the behest of fake leaders and corrupt big-money interests. This is all about unseating Trump through impeachment (a coup) or in the 2020 election.

Had enough? Definitely.

Go after Mueller, his flunkies, and the cronies inside and outside of government that are propping him up. Put them in jail where they belong for doing this.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Davids918, 7/11/2018 11:51:28 AM     (No. 11690702)

So, a bank executive sees a chance to get into a possible upcoming WH, where nearly 5000 positions are doled out (appointed), and this is directly connected to Trump?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: hamrman, 7/11/2018 12:25:25 PM     (No. 11690739)

Ferris Mueller what a weasel!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: walcb, 7/11/2018 12:35:18 PM     (No. 11690750)

You want quid pro quo? Let´s talk about Russian purchases of US uranium and donations to the Clinton Foundation.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 7/11/2018 12:50:20 PM     (No. 11690774)

You know that Comrade Mueller has nothing when he´s reduced to playing Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: steveW, 7/11/2018 2:06:02 PM     (No. 11690880)

Given that the origin of Mueller´s supposed "collusion investigation" was a demonstrable frame up attempt by the Deep State paid for by the Clinton Crime Syndicate, nothing that ever comes of it can ever have any legitimacy whatsoever, and everyone already knows this. There has never at any time been any attempt to "get to the bottom" of the supposed Trump-Russia alliance, which everyone already knew from the start never existed. We will soon find out the real reason PDT has been allowing this sham investigation to go on, and we can be certain it won´t be pretty for the Deep State coupsters...

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Polecat49, 7/11/2018 2:40:57 PM     (No. 11690936)

I spent over twentY (20) years in law enforcement and after being LIED to for the first couple of times QUIT advising Assistant United States Attorneys (AUSAs), Because I was laughed at by the AUSA at the time. ALSO. never heard before how a person can be LOCKED up on a thirteen year old, Non Capital offense when the statute of limitations is usually five or seven years. Oh, I forgot, mueller and his motly crew get to write their own so-called federal law along with so-called federal judges who should be in prison instead of on the bench.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: EQKimball, 7/11/2018 4:03:05 PM     (No. 11691038)

Some individuals, corporations and even agencies of foreign governments gave (not lent) millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, and paid millions more to listen to her husband give them private "speeches" (as in "hi, nice to see you...put it there in the bag") when Hillary was Secretary of State and the presumed Democratic nominee for president. But the FBI disregarded that and the fact that Hillary purged tens of thousands of emails apparently because it felt she had earned the benefit of the doubt.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 7/11/2018 6:35:26 PM     (No. 11691197)

This is fantasyland !

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Omen, 7/11/2018 7:30:37 PM     (No. 11691250)

It´s obvious Manafort is refusing to compose.
Now as they keep him in isolation expect the water boarding to begin.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Franz, 7/13/2018 11:50:59 AM     (No. 11692981)

This is overwhelming proof that the trump investigation is a witch hunt with with Mueller acting as Grade Inquisitor. He seems hellbent on destroying Manafort to make him say something bad about Trump.

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DUBAI - Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on Sunday cautioned U.S. President Donald Trump about pursuing hostile policies against Tehran, saying “America should know ... war with Iran is the mother of all wars,” but he did not rule out peace between the two countries, either. Iran faces increased U.S. pressure and looming sanctions after Trump’s decision to withdraw the United States from a 2015 international deal over Iran’s nuclear program. Addressing a gathering of Iranian diplomats, Rouhani said: “Mr Trump, don’t play with the lion’s tail, this would only lead to regret,” the state new agency IRNA reported. “America should know that

The entire Republican Party
is becoming a Russian asset

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Washington Post, by Paul Waldman    Original Article
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In the past few days, President Trump has given at least some Republicans reason to express displeasure over his relationship with Russia. First he performed a pathetic ritual of subservience before Vladimir Putin, standing beside the Russian leader — after a private meeting between the two, which no aides were permitted to attend — and dismissing the copious evidence of a Russian attack on the 2016 election in deference to Putin’s word. Then we learned that Putin had suggested that we make Americans available to the Kremlin for questioning, including Michael McFaul, the former U.S. ambassador to Russia, in exchange

Doomed Missouri duck boat set out
in near-hurricane winds: NTSB

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Fox News, by Paulina Dedaj    Original Article
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(Video)The early investigation into what caused a tour boat in Missouri to capsize Thursday, killing 17, has found that the vessel set out despite winds approaching hurricane force, according to a National Transportation Safety Board official. (Snip) The most alarming information gather by the NTSB seems to relate to the weather conditions at the time of the accident. Weener said that there were recorded anemometer readings of 73 mph. To put this in context, he said hurricane-force winds are thought to begin at about 75 mph. Based on recordings from witnesses, Weener also estimated that waves were around four feet,

Democratic socialism surging
in the age of Trump

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Associated Press, by Steve Peoples    Original Article
Posted By: M2- 7/21/2018 9:03:20 AM     Post Reply
Last Friday, Maine Democrat Zak Ringelstein wasn’t ready to consider himself a formal member of the Democratic Socialists of America, even if he appreciated the organization’s values and endorsement in his bid to become a United States senator. Three days later, he told The Associated Press that was ready to become the only major-party Senate candidate in the nation to be a dues-paying democratic socialist. The swift evolution is latest evidence of a nationwide surge in the strength and popularity of an organization that, until recently, operated on the fringes of the liberal movement’s farthest left flank. But as Donald

What if You Owned a Beach but
Weren’t Allowed to Get to It?

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New York Times, by Kathleen Sharp    Original Article
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SANTA BARBARA, Calif — From Malibu to Santa Cruz, wealthy people are blocking access to California’s publicly owned beaches. And no group has fought the public longer than the gated community of Hollister Ranch, about 130 miles north of Los Angeles. For more than 36 years, residents there have spent millions of dollars on lawyers and lobbyists to bar the hoi polloi from an 8.5-mile-long beach adorned with several coves. In May, after more than four years of litigation over public access to the beach, a settlement was announced between the ranch cooperative, on one side, and the California Coastal Commission

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