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Fox’s Bret Baier Draws the Line:
Sean Hannity is a Problem

American Thinker, by Peter Barry Chowka

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Posted By:magnante, 5/19/2018 9:32:49 AM

The civil war between the Fox News Channel news and opinion sides appears to be hardening with chief political anchor Bret Baier having joined the fray. On Thursday May 17, Baier, a 20-year high-profile veteran of Fox News, entered the lion’s den – one of the hearts of the anti-Trump Resistance – when he went on the ABC Television Network daytime women’s chat show The View. His guest shot in “enemy territory” was a prominent stop on the media tour to promote his new book on Reagan and Gorbachev, Three Days in Moscow. The five women of The View, however – four of them unabashed leftists and one lone


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Reply 1 - Posted by: delta dave, 5/19/2018 9:38:14 AM     (No. 11636514)

bad link. no OP comments. waste of time post

Please do not respond in this manner and attack OP. Bad link repaired. LCom Staff.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/19/2018 9:50:45 AM     (No. 11636519)


To my knowledge, this criticism by Baier of Hannity or to put it more accurately his distancing himself from his Fox News colleague – however slight – is the first time Baier has publicly registered such an adverse opinion of a Fox News colleague. One would therefore have to add him to the list of other Fox News news department hosts, Chris Wallace and Shep Smith, who have been even more vocal and direct in their criticism of Hannity and others on the opinion side of the channel.

Baier’s leftward creep has been obvious since the 2016 campaign. (He’s also gained a lot of weight, but that’s a separate issue!) He’s not in very good company with his criticism of Hannity, but he’s flogging his new book, so will say whatever he has to in order to gain wide exposure.

We no longer watch his Fox program. Except for recording Harris Faulkner’s Outnumbered Overtime, we don’t watch Fox daytime television. Only Fox Business. Harris is their superstar, but she too wobbles at times.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/19/2018 9:55:16 AM     (No. 11636522)

This article is about much more than Baier, but his change is a sign of things to come. Reading on:

With the elder Murdoch having just turned 87, the bottom line is that Lachlan Murdoch, 46, is expected to exert more and more day to day control over the direction and programming of Fox News. As has been widely reported, the younger Murdoch does not necessarily share the conservative political leanings of his father Rupert. In fact, far from it. Lachlan’s brother James, who is said to be even more liberal, will reportedly not be playing a role at the New Fox.

Bye, bye, conservative Fox - or what remained of it. So we may not see Shep or Chris leaving any time soon… And others will take care of themselves by moving left or moving out. But - as to the latter - where?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Avikingman, 5/19/2018 10:08:59 AM     (No. 11636534)

DVD most shows in advance, FF all commercials. Baier and Hannity don´t make the cut. Start w of Bartiromo, Varney, then off til Dobbs (who has a tough time letting his guests answer his garrulous, insufferable pontificating, grunting and lexically repetitive questions), get it?, Tucker, then baseball, FF mound visits, et. al.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 5/19/2018 10:13:20 AM     (No. 11636541)

I don´t form my opinions by Bret, so I don´t care all that much about him. The days of watching Fox every night like going to the movies ended long ago.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: M2, 5/19/2018 10:14:40 AM     (No. 11636542)

The headline is very misleading. This is a non-story.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: excalgalcg, 5/19/2018 10:19:55 AM     (No. 11636548)

Thank you above posters as you all contributed my similar thoughts. I watch Fox Business and Charles Payne is a gentleman.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: strike3, 5/19/2018 10:21:20 AM     (No. 11636551)

As usual, a small bit of friction is magnified into a mountain. We all have our pet peeves with Hannity but he is superb at digging up facts and presenting them. He has many good sources and contacts. The other night, for instance, Sean had Mark Levin as a guest and he kept interrupting Mark to present his own opinions. Shut up and let the guest talk, especially when you call him "the Great One."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Grampstosix, 5/19/2018 10:26:40 AM     (No. 11636554)

I gave up on Hannity. He´s a self absorbed gas bag that never lets anyone finish what they are saying.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/19/2018 10:31:33 AM     (No. 11636560)

We too record Varney and a few others at Fox Business, as well as Harris Faulkner’s own Overtime program. Dobbs is problematic. His doing what #4 says. His death grip on the mic, to the point that even Seb Gorka had to politely ask him to let him finish, appears to be a combination of increasing age and decreased information. Lou is not always terribly well-informed, so covers it with a lot of bluster and even gratuitous profanity. Some really good guests like Gorka and Chris Farrell, Judicial Watch, just sit. Wondering why they were invited. Victoria Toentsing had to counter Lou’s rant about the leading of Mueller’s supposed questions for President Trump, telling him that it wasn’t the leaking but the very bad nature of the questions themselves that was the major issue. Dobbs did let her and DiGenova speak. Then went back to his leaking rant without missing a beat. Time for the farm?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/19/2018 10:35:24 AM     (No. 11636562)

Not sure how anyone can consider this article a “non-story” when it goes on to forecast what we are already seeing. Fox is slipping from being a bastion of conservative thought to a more liberal place. Bret is just a symptom. But one would have to read the whole article ...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: frenesi1, 5/19/2018 10:37:23 AM     (No. 11636566)

Not a huge Hannity fan but have noticed change in Baier and no longer much of a fan of him either. Pretty much quit watching Fox. If I want current events of country and world, I go to OAN

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ravenhaven, 5/19/2018 10:38:28 AM     (No. 11636568)

Hannity is a national hero. His is the only show featuring the few enterprise reporters covering the looming cataclysm in Washington. For the rest, it´s business as usual. Bravo, Hannity!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 5/19/2018 10:42:41 AM     (No. 11636574)

Rarely listen to Baier. No big fan of Sean Vanity. That being said -- this story is much ado about nothing.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: TOOTALL, 5/19/2018 10:52:33 AM     (No. 11636579)

I can´t watch Fox News anymore. I tivo Laura so she gets the ratings, but I don´t really like her format. I prefer the podcast of her radio show and reading for info. Fox Business is ok. Varney,Paine, Cavuto,Bartilomo come across to me as honest brokers of the truth. Liz Claiman is too breathlessly dramatic.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Hazymac, 5/19/2018 10:59:38 AM     (No. 11636584)

As Fox News has drifted leftward, the way is clear for other conservative news outlets to fill in the void. Newsmax now has a television network, one that hasn´t yet reached Spectrum-Bright House (my cable provider), but appears to be everywhere else. There ought to be several competing conservative stations. The Left have theirs (all the alphabets); why shouldn´t we have ours?

Hannity is onto the rot festering in our government; what he´s doing is necessary. His style hasn´t always appeal to me, but, like the Blues Brothers, he´s on a mission from God. May he be successful; he´s boldly staked his career on what he´s doing.

There is an opportunity here to staunch the corruption in government, one that will disappear for a long time if PDJT is not successful in his broad aims, and in a few specific ones, such as making a certain few criminals pay for what they have done.

Bret Baier has never appeared to be strongly ideological. I think he does a good job playing it down the middle, so to speak. There´s a place for him and for Hannity on FNC´s roster.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: On fire, 5/19/2018 11:18:52 AM     (No. 11636602)

During the 2016 Republican debates, Megan Kelly may have stole the show as a partisan hack, but I was appalled by the major left-tilt by Bret. He was hiding behind her skirts, but was ankle-biting Trump for all he was worth.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: JediJerry, 5/19/2018 11:56:20 AM     (No. 11636648)

Bret has been hitting happy hour with Mitch and Ryan long enough. They got to him. He’s been turned to the Dark Side. Mitch can say.... Bret....I am your father....
Hannity gets a bit carried away sometimes for sure. He does jump in and walk on guests a lot. Kind of like OReilly does. But that has to do with his ego, and all that. Fox is turning as we knew it would with the new bosses being Progressive minded so I have to adapt and adjust and limit my viewing. I record all of Levins Sunday night shows and have CRTV so in the absence of Fox I have lots of better options. Sorry Bret but you grate on me almost as bad as your buddy Shep Smith. I can’t watch either of you. I would rather listen to Roseanne sing the national anthem while scratching her fingernails across a dirty chalk board.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ginadee, 5/19/2018 12:06:56 PM     (No. 11636659)

The only shows I watch on Fox are .......?
(Unless there is some ´breaking news´ of some import.
I´v almost given up on that channel. It´s Fox Business and the internet forums such as Lucianne.
I quit Bret Baier after the infamous debate headed by the fearsome threesome....Chris Wallace, Megyn Kelly and Bret Baier.
I lost whatever respect I had for them that fateful night. The night that in spite of the Fox news people made Donald J. Trump president. I certainly wasn´t the only person that finished watching that debate which by their actions solidified my vote for DJT!
and he is if you haven´t noticed.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: StormCnter, 5/19/2018 12:30:51 PM     (No. 11636688)

Bret Baier is the best pundit on television, bar none. And he is correct about Sean Hannity. And, to say there is a "leftward creep" in Baier´s work is ridiculous. He works hard to be "fair and balanced" and he is successful with it.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Smart11344, 5/19/2018 12:46:35 PM     (No. 11636695)

Baier has dropped a few notches on my likability poll. I was happy when he took over from Brit Hume. Not so much anymore. Lou Dobbs, Charles Payne, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham are my favorites.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: abuela10, 5/19/2018 12:51:08 PM     (No. 11636700)

I watch Fox Business and oan or news max

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 5/19/2018 12:55:11 PM     (No. 11636706)

Agree with #16 and #20. There´s a place for both Hannity and Baier. Baier is fair and down the middle. Some can´t stand that. Hannity is a one note Johnny and that gets boring, but some want nothing but that. If Fox is so bad, switch to CNN.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: judy, 5/19/2018 1:03:07 PM     (No. 11636711)

Oh please, Baier has never been fair to Trump ...he´s joined the Wallace, Shep, Juan, Dana, Brit Hume bandwagon. It´s sad what people will do to sell a book. Hey Baier , at least Hannity is consistent. My my one thing for sure Trump sure brought out the fake media & fake republicans. The only show I watch on Fox is Fox and friends & Greg Gutfeld. . Fox business is 10000% better viewing. ...Maria & Lou Dobb..how much is Baier worth? Hannity is worth 60 million...could it be envy????

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Reply 25 - Posted by: judy, 5/19/2018 1:06:55 PM     (No. 11636714)

I´m sorry Sean is worth 80 million $$$$$$Consistency pays!!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 5/19/2018 1:06:59 PM     (No. 11636715)

Baier has been afflicted with Brit Hume disease, and it´s terminal.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Mainelysane, 5/19/2018 1:53:27 PM     (No. 11636751)

How arrogant can one be? Barr is mush. ....without purpose. At least Hannity represents a political belef!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: franq, 5/19/2018 3:17:04 PM     (No. 11636808)

Baier is a closet leftist, and a boozer, to booet. This accounts for his weight gain.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Lte126, 5/19/2018 3:32:11 PM     (No. 11636821)

I don’t listen to men who get eye lifts

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Reply 30 - Posted by: 68BattleofBealeVet, 5/19/2018 3:38:35 PM     (No. 11636828)

Tucker Carlson has the best show on TV. He is spot on and makes me laugh every time I watch.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: annie xango, 5/19/2018 3:41:49 PM     (No. 11636832)

personally, I think Shannon Bream is heads above Laura in style..I just cannot stand the way she talks over her guests..who, know more than she does on their subject!!!! I have that issue with Sean too..but then as someone said..he is doing God´s work fearlessly..so I give it a pass.I also like Greg Gutfeld and both of his shows.Maria B is a treasure..

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Reply 32 - Posted by: annie xango, 5/19/2018 3:43:03 PM     (No. 11636833)

OMGosh...I forgot Tucker!!!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: coyote56, 5/19/2018 3:55:55 PM     (No. 11636840)

Still watch Hannity & if you miss Mark Levin you really miss something. He has great guests & teaches a lot about the Constitution. He had Gary Sinese on the other night & it was great. Fox & Friends is still fun to watch if you are at home.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: NYbob, 5/19/2018 4:06:51 PM     (No. 11636846)

Ooooh, the new Fox leadership is pumped and ready to apply all that new left thinking. You know, the future according to progressives. Self proclaimed ´enlightened´ and ´woke.´ The silver spoon son is going to show how clever he is, by pretending to be unbiased while he feeds viewers the same socialist/communist nonsense from the DNC. He thinks we won´t notice. He thinks Fox is a big deal. You know like Starbucks used to be in the early 2000s, or Dick´s or take your pick of once profitable companies that corkscrewed into the ground thanks to some privileged progressive dope. Hint to stockholders. Maybe at the next meeting object to the goofy son tanking the company, because if the history of recent companies going full liberal is a clue, Fox stock is going down.

Independents, anyone right of center will go to the net and no leftist on Earth will admit to watching Fox, no matter how suddenly left they go. Murdoc was always a sheep in wolf´s clothes for the right. Any counter progressive is always outweighed by more leftists who get their points in again and again.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: dvc, 5/19/2018 5:18:58 PM     (No. 11636906)

I didn´t get the same interpretation of what Bret and Sean said in the transcript.

I got that Sean was the editorial part of Fox and Bret was the news part. Yes, some folks give Bret a hard time about Sean being "biased", but I didn´t see that as any problem for Bret, just a misunderstanding on the part of the listeners/viewers about the two different roles that the two different shows play.

Bret is straight news, far straighter than most, and Sean is commentary, far more sensible that most.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: franq, 5/19/2018 6:44:57 PM     (No. 11636964)

Please forgive inappropriate post above. I have asked staff to remove it and resolve to only post that which I would have the courage to say to a person´s face.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Judy, 5/19/2018 9:51:27 PM     (No. 11637065)

Read the article....I do not trust Bret, he tells Sean one thing , the view another thing...scale of 1 to 10 Bret tells Sean a 6 tells the View it depends on what day it is??? Two faced coward ! One thing for sure Sean is consistent. Who’s ratings are higher?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Italiano, 5/19/2018 10:02:44 PM     (No. 11637072)

Cut this BS. Hannity, Levin and the journalists they´re working with are hitting this like nobody else. From the Hillary E-Mails to the Clinton Foundation corruption to the Deep State traitors´ attempted coup, no one else is coming close. As for reporting "down the middle," please can it. With what this country is dealing with today, there is no "middle."

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Reply 39 - Posted by: rbruce20, 5/19/2018 10:42:28 PM     (No. 11637089)

Baier was joking around when talking with Hannity. Why does everyone overblow conversational banter with serious debate? Lighten up.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Tulsa, 5/24/2018 10:11:07 AM     (No. 11641504)

Baier´s wit is dry. My impression from reading the exchange only was the two were joking.

The two shows are nothing alike. Baier reports the news. Hannity is commentary.

Baier was on the view to sell books and he gave a non answer. See dry wit.

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Michelle Obama joined her fellow former first lady Laura Bush Monday in criticizing the hard-line Trump administration immigration policy that has led to families being separated at the border. Bush, the wife of former President George W. Bush, penned a tweet over the weekend in which she echoed the widespread condemnation of the new directive from Attorney General Jeff Sessions. “I live in a border state,” Bush said. “I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.” Quoting that tweet, Obama wrote that “sometimes truth transcends

Hillary Clinton on family separations
at border: Jesus didn’t say, ‘Let
the children suffer’

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Washington Examiner, by Emma Ayers    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 5:19:24 PM     Post Reply
Hillary Clinton weighed in Monday morning on the ongoing controversy regarding the Trump administration’s "no-tolerance” border policy, suggesting that Jesus would not condone the actions of the American border authorities. At an awards lunch for the Women’s Forum of New York, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee called out “those who selectively use the Bible” to give grounds for the separations, which were reported by the Department of Justice on Friday. “I went to a lot of years of Sunday school — even taught it from time to time. I’ve studied both the Old and New Testament, and what is being

Romney calls for ‘disturbing’
family separations to stop

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Washington Post, by Elise Viebeck    Original Article
Posted By: Tishimself- 6/19/2018 12:53:19 AM     Post Reply
Republican Senate candidate Mitt Romney called on the Trump administration Monday to stop separating immigrant families at the southern border, calling the controversy a “humanitarian crisis” that requires Congress to devise a permanent solution. Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, declined to blame President Trump or the Department of Homeland Security specifically in remarks to a group of voters at a park here. He called images of children separated from their parents “pretty disturbing” and “heartbreaking.” “I think immediately we should go back to the setting where we’re not ripping children away from their parents, and then we expect Congress to take

Democrats propose changing
legal voting age in Michigan to 16

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Detroit Free Press, by Kathleen Gray    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 6/19/2018 10:22:30 AM     Post Reply
LANSING — The unprecedented outpouring of activism from students after the shooting at Marjorie Douglas Stoneman High School in Parkland, Fla., in February is the genesis for a bill introduced in the Legislature last week that would change the voting age in Michigan to 16. "We allow 16-year-olds to go off and get jobs and pay taxes, but we fail to allow them to exercise their voice come election time," said Sen. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights. "Young people are setting aside their differences and identifying issues they think need to change. And they can do everything to get that change

Separating Families At The Border:
The Hysteria Overlooks Some Key Facts

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: RockyTCB- 6/19/2018 5:53:37 AM     Post Reply
Illegal Immigration: The latest outrage by the Trump administration is its policy of "ripping" children away from parents who´ve crossed the border illegally. As with so many other things involving Trump, there´s plenty of emotion but precious little in the way of facts. The furor reached critical mass after the Department of Homeland Security said on Friday that 1,995 children had been separated from their illegal border crossing parents from mid-April through May. That number included, DHS said, cases where the adults were arrested for illegal entry, immigration violations, or possible criminal conduct. The practice has generated a rising storm of protests,

´Darlene´ to replace ´Roseanne´
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American Thinker, by Ed Straker    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 4:59:32 AM     Post Reply
Roseanne Barr has become untouchable due to the "Valerie Jarrett/Ambien/Planet of the Apes" controversy, irrevocably contaminated by racism. This presents a problem for ABC, which canceled her revived show but wants the show to return in some form because it had high ratings. The apparent solution is to create a new show focused on the daughter character "Darlene," which would exclude Roseanne. Unfortunately, Roseanne Barr owns a chunk of the show, and ABC doesn´t want to be seen letting Barr profit from it, so ABC is in talks to buy the show from Barr so she would not technically profit

Why the OIG Report Should
Scare the Hell Out of You

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American Spectator, by David Catron    Original Article
Posted By: garnet- 6/18/2018 5:05:18 AM     Post Reply
The Justice Department’s tepid OIG report, with its risible assertion that there was no political bias in the FBI’s Clinton email probe, suggests that it was written by people afraid to tell the unvarnished truth about the conduct of the federal government’s police apparatus, an agency that openly defies congressional oversight and has participated in a vendetta against a sitting president. The FBI’s leadership clearly hopes that the Democrats will win majorities in Congress and put a halt to the investigations into its multifarious abuses of power. The OIG is loath to face the ruthless reprisals that would inevitably follow

How can FBI Director Wray clean out the
swamp if he doesn´t even see the corruption?

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Fox News, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 6/19/2018 4:38:13 AM     Post Reply
FBI Director Wray has said nothing to reassure Americans that he understands the serious corruption highlighted in the IG report. The FBI´s cover-ups and stonewalling on Wray´s watch add to his credibility problems. Both in is his press conference after the IG report was released, and in his testimony Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Director Wray demonstrated he was more concerned about protecting the reputation of the institution of the FBI than about the astonishing corruption of top FBI officials detailed in the IG report. During today’s hearing we heard about FBI agents who aren’t corrupt and how the Clinton email

Melania Trump´s approval rating drops
6 points after she disappears
from public for a month following
her kidney procedure

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Daily Mail [UK], by Emily Goodin    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 6/19/2018 1:59:42 PM     Post Reply
Melania Trump´s approval rating is down six points after she spent a month out of the public eye following her kidney procedure, a new poll revealed. A new CNN poll shows 51 percent of Americans approve of the first lady, down from 57 percent in a poll conducted last month. Her unfavorable rating is at 29 percent, up from 27 percent last month. The survey was conducted from June 14-17, one month after Melania Trump had her kidney procedure at Walter Reed Military Medical Center, which took place on May 14 and kept her out of sight for 25 days.

Starbucks provides weak sales
outlook, will close 150 stores

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Fox Business, by Thomas Barrabi    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/19/2018 5:28:07 PM     Post Reply
Starbucks shares fell as much as 3% in after-hours trading Tuesday after the coffeehouse chain provided a weak sales forecast for its upcoming quarter and said it would shutter 150 stores in fiscal 2019. The Seattle-based company said it would close underperforming stores in “densely penetrated markets” and slow its rate of store growth. Starbucks said it traditionally closes about 50 underperforming locations annually. Starbucks said it expects same-store sales to grow 1% in its third fiscal quarter of 2017. Analysts had expected same-store sales to grow 3% in that period. “While certain demand headwinds are transitory, and some of

CBS’s Gayle King at Texas Border Facility:
The Statue of Liberty Is ‘Weeping Right Now’

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Breitbart Video, by Pam Key    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 11:46:24 AM     Post Reply
Monday at a border patrol facility in McAllen, TX on “CBS This Morning,” co-host Gayle King said the Statue of Liberty is “weeping right now” over the separating of immigrant children from their families. King said “We arrived yesterday afternoon. We went straight to the facility, the location where kids and their parents were reunited. All I can say after talking to the people, watching the people, listening to the people, that the Statue of Liberty I think is weeping right now. It’s unbelievable the stories we’ve heard.” She added, “We’re standing in front of a converted warehouse. This is

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