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Curing cancer ‘not a realistic goal,’ doctors
focus on managing instead of curing disease

Fox News, by Alexandra Deabler

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 4/18/2018 10:16:10 PM

Over the last five years, cancer research has seen the “greatest advances,” including a new approach to treating the complex disease as a “chronic disease,” instead of trying to cure it. “We have seen the greatest advances in cancer medicine in the last five years with drugs targeting the immune system moving into the clinic and showing remarkable response rates with quite a few different malignancies,” Lisa Coussens, Ph.D., Chair of the Department of Cell, Developmental & Cancer Biology, said to Fox News at the American Association for Cancer Research annual conference. However, the response rates do not indicate that medical

Is this what America has become? They are just giving up? That sounds like some leftist garbage talk. Are they making too much money off of just ´managing´ it? This really disturbs me. It made me think of the article that social justice was also taking over medical colleges. Link below.



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Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 4/18/2018 10:36:21 PM     (No. 11606523)

No long term money in a cure. Sad, so very sad...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 4/18/2018 10:45:02 PM     (No. 11606527)

As long as oncologists can only treat cancer with surgery, chemo or radiation, cancer will never be cured, but managed for about five years as my mother’s was...

However, after melanoma then uterine, and an ER admittance for 12 days with an abscess, those 12 days were a ´gift from God’ to do my homework on chemo, which two department heads in two different teaching hospitals said I needed to start immediately!

Long story short, I never had peace about chemo... it was too subjective... Then shopping at Mother´s Market in Newport Beach when I lived there, I saw a DVD in the book section, ‘Cancer is Curable.’ Needless to say, I bought it, and met one of the doctors whose office was about 11 miles inland. She has patients from around the world, and is as smart as she is beautiful!

God is good. He and His Word are the ultimate healers,
Jehovah-Rapha! ‘He sent out His Word and healed them.’ Psalm 107:20... May it ever be!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: IdSpud, 4/18/2018 10:46:45 PM     (No. 11606528)

#1 has it about right. I was reading somewhere (wish I could go get it) that the money wasn´t in the cure, it was in the management and treatment of the disease. So Sad. American ingenuity should be able to defeat this disease if there was a will.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: kate318, 4/18/2018 10:59:16 PM     (No. 11606536)

No, modern American medicine will never cure cancer. You must look outside the box if you actually want to heal yourself. I once heard a statistic that over 80% of doctors, were they to get diagnosed with cancer, would refuse chemotherapy. I found that to be astounding.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jntsrgn, 4/18/2018 11:04:51 PM     (No. 11606542)

Such unbelievable ignorance in these comments. There is no such single condition called "cancer" for which there is a cure. Cancer describes a process by which hundreds of different diseases occur each with its own distinct characteristics and nearly infinite variabilities. What works on one "cancer" is completely useless on another.

Tinfoil hats are one thing when talking politics but morally reprehensible when questioning the motivation of medical research.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: planetgeo, 4/18/2018 11:21:44 PM     (No. 11606551)

This is so, so...European. Effete. Resigned to limitations.

Bullshiite. We are Americans. We do the impossible.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Justavoter, 4/18/2018 11:26:17 PM     (No. 11606554)

The medical industry learned a valuable lesson when they cured polio. The gravy trail stops once a cure is found and there has not been a cure for anything science. I will not give to any foundation or organization that is raising money for a "cure". I know they are liars.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: qwerty, 4/18/2018 11:26:28 PM     (No. 11606555)

I am NOT gonna say that medical people are holding back a "cure" I well know there are many sorts of cancer. (the "monster" has touched my family 3 times)
I just have a simple observation.
Jonas Salk with an optical microscope, slide rule, and pencil & paper discovered a cure for polio. These days we have electron microscopes that can see inside atoms, super computers, and research machines that were undreamed of in 1958.
My question is what´s taking so long? Sure seems a bit fishy to me.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Noj15, 4/18/2018 11:28:34 PM     (No. 11606556)

Make your own Ganoderma Applanatum mushroom extract for $100.

The AMA only recognizes surgery, radiation, or chemo for cancer in the US.

Chinese have been using Ganoderma for thousands of years.

Because it works.

You think the AMA and American Cancer Society want to lose billions? No.

Thanks why the power of medicinal mushrooms is kept hidden from the sheeple.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 4/18/2018 11:39:26 PM     (No. 11606559)

You want to cure cancer? Here is how. Get the government out of the medical grant business. Get the government out of the drug business. Let five billionaires get together and each invest only one 50th of his or her fortune into a super fund called "The Reward For The Cure" 5 billion dollars to anyone or any organization that comes up with a proven cure for cancer! We would have that cure within six months! But, as long as "Research Grants" are the bread and butter of the
"Research Industry" no chance in hell of getting an actual cure. "Management" is the answer just like iron lungs, spas, clinics and custom fitted braces were the "management" for polio. Salk crushed a three billion dollar a year industry and the AMA Big Shots swore they would never again let that happen- and, sure enough, they haven´t! Medico are treating cancer exactly the same they treated it 70 years ago! Surgery, chemo and radiation. And now, our own government wants to take away the pain meds that at least help our loved ones get through it without screaming.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MFM, 4/18/2018 11:53:19 PM     (No. 11606564)

OP is absolutely positively spot on! Cancer is a racket for all accept the patients. Its disgusting, if you or a family member are stuck on the wheel of survival its obvious...There are options outside traditional chemo overloads that in the end bring more and more false hope and misery..One more test, then 1 week for results, on and on..We can do better, much much better..

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Reply 12 - Posted by: angelgrammi, 4/18/2018 11:55:28 PM     (No. 11606566)

Our family thanks G-d for the work of Dr. Ronald Levy at Stanford. What he has done and continues to do there is amazing. Our family has been blessed by his research, treatment, and caring staff members. His team is currently testing what´s being called a ´cancer vaccine´ (it´s not), but could change the lives of millions. Never give up.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: dvc, 4/18/2018 11:55:41 PM     (No. 11606567)

"Cancer" is a 1000 different diseases. Several kinds are pretty much cured, others not close.

We are pretty stupid any time we even say
"cure cancer", because it isn´t a sensible goal, since there are so many different things, unfortunately, that we call by one name.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 4/19/2018 1:00:34 AM     (No. 11606582)

As a cancer survivor of nearly thirty years, I am going to repeat what I said to NPR in the beginning. "If the men in Congress had penile cancer, they would work harder for a cure"

We can put a man on the moon, but we can´t cure or even find better treatment for cancer. What is up with that?

Stop granting welfare to illegals and refugees and put the money into dread diseases.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: jl80863, 4/19/2018 2:06:18 AM     (No. 11606602)

I´m with #5. I am a cancer survivor, at least for the past 10 years. Modern medical research has not given up on finding causes and cures. One thing I know without a doubt. I do not wish to live in the world that many respondents seem to live in. Extensive surgery as well as chemo and radiation therapies saved my life but exacted a very heavy price and left me conspicuously disfigured and partially disabled. Despite the price, I am extremely happy to be alive. Am I "cured"? I think not. There are too many variables. If you haven´t experienced this sort of treatment pray that you never do. If cancer patients had an option of effective disease management in place of some of these current therapies it would most assuredly be a blessing. Life is about choices and I prefer to have as many as possible.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: pchristopher, 4/19/2018 2:37:16 AM     (No. 11606609)

So they finally admit that there´s no money in a cure, which they probably have locked in a vault somewhere.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 4/19/2018 2:39:57 AM     (No. 11606612)

Beg your pardon #5, have you had cancer, did you read about Dr Connealy’s new book, Cancer Revolution?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Catherine, 4/19/2018 3:50:30 AM     (No. 11606620)

American medicine is a joke. Not only were they curing cancer in the lab 25 years ago, but they are now in the process of declaring everyone diabetic, having high blood pressure and high cholesterol. New blood levels for diabetics is 100-140. I find it insulting they would even go this far to declare tens of millions more diabetic so they have to buy the expensive pills and test strips that are $1 each. And there is a new acceptable for blood pressure. I think it´s 130/90. Not positive on the numbers but they have been lowered lately thereby making more people suddenly having high blood pressure. I won´t even get started with cholesterol. And my favorite, it now takes 10 months for a woman to have a baby. That´s the new normal for pregnant women.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: anonymous, 4/19/2018 4:03:39 AM     (No. 11606624)

Cancer is natural. It can be deadly but it´s natural. When something that is natural originates in the body´s own cells, it´s not easy to fight with a medicinal approach. Any such approach requires you to enter cancer´s favorite domain - ie the body´s cells and their intricate, inter-related machinery. Cancer has an advantage here.

In contrast, when something deleterious attacks the body from the outside - such as the flu virus or tetanus bacterium - the medicinal approach is more effective as the microorganism is not a natural part of the cell´s machinery.

Managing cancer through surgical intervention can be an effective approach if it isolates the cancer from the rest of the body without creating new problems.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: KatieJo, 4/19/2018 4:47:56 AM     (No. 11606627)

What I find morally reprehensible is putting money before human life. Chemo and radiation kill untold numbers of people. I would never undergo those "treatments" if diagnosed. I am terrified of "medical treatment".

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Reply 21 - Posted by: franq, 4/19/2018 5:58:23 AM     (No. 11606648)

Put me in the tin foil brigade. A personal anecdote, which may seem trivial: went through 2 ninety day scrips to heal toenail fungus. Big toe would not budge, little toe healed. Put up with it for a couple years, then the wife heard about putting Vicks Vaporub on the affected area. Apparently the eucalyptus oil is effective. It is on its way out, growing new nail, avoided the inevitable cutting away of the nail. Nature has cures, if we only look.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: barryno, 4/19/2018 6:07:07 AM     (No. 11606654)

There is no possible cancer cure.

Cancer is caused by unusual, uncontrolled cell division in damaged cells. Those cells can no longer identify their own proper function, nor limit their objective.

Cancer is the REAL Zombie Appocalapse.

A cell dies in terms of all its useful functions, but it still shambles around, the living dead, eating, getting in the way, or attacking other cells and making more like itself. In some very rare cases, it CAN be contagious.

Part of the problem is that methods and procedures that can harm these zombies will also harm the unchanged cells the zombies are attacking - like dealing with a mixed crowd of zombies and potential victims and using a machine gun. Easy and practical where you´ve got a mass of zombies. Not so much so if it´s a mixed crowd.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: barryno, 4/19/2018 6:11:42 AM     (No. 11606657)


And all we´ve come up with, so far, are machine gun /shotgun tactics to take out those cancer/zombies. Until we can understand how a cell recognizes damage to the body and work out how to guide or limit that (possibly as many different codes as there are different types of cell) we won´t understand how to stop the spread of cancer.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Trigger2, 4/19/2018 7:54:49 AM     (No. 11606760)

Lisa: How much did the big pharma´s pay you for this screed to protect their income?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/19/2018 9:07:38 AM     (No. 11606853)

“Cancer” is not a single disease. As I understand it it is what occurs when the brakes that normally go on, putting a hold on a cell’s development, fail. The cell’s growth runs amok.

Each cell has its own individual identity - liver cells are not like prostate cells are not like brain cells are not like lung cells. Which is why they can determine whether a cancer in a particular organ is primary (there, in that organ) or secondary, having metastasized from a primary organ in another organ. They are trackable due to their unique identities.

This layperson’s very cursory understanding.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: maryann4629, 4/19/2018 10:32:00 AM     (No. 11606992)

Oh, good grief! I am a 32-year survivor of Hodgkins Disease. I. Am. CURED! Of a once-considered "uniformly fatal" form of cancer.

There are millions of people out there who have been cured of various forms of cancer whose experiences are completely ignored by those who are determined to spout ignorant conspiracy theories about the government, or the medical establishment. Pathetic.

As far as there being "no money" in finding a cure, let me tell you that there is way more money in treating an aging population than in allowing people to die young.

So much nonsense.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: maryann4629, 4/19/2018 10:39:41 AM     (No. 11607005)

Please excuse the second post.

#20, never say never. If you were diagnosed as a 30-year old mother of a toddler and an unborn son, as I was, yes, you would undergo chemotherapy and radiation, and surgery, as I did, and whatever else, in order to be there to see your children grow, graduate from high school, then college, to be at their weddings, and to meet your grandchildren, all of which I did.

Many, many lifelong thanks to the medical people for the therapies which saved my life.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: zoidberg, 4/19/2018 10:45:32 AM     (No. 11607016)

There are now immunotherapy drugs, in addition to surgery, radiation, and chemo. Not every type of cancer responds to them, nor every patient, but they are making a huge difference.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Drive, 4/19/2018 10:49:54 AM     (No. 11607022)

Tell that to the 94% of children cured of leukemia at St. Jude´s.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: skeptical1, 4/19/2018 12:00:54 PM     (No. 11607079)

Put me in the group who feel gratitude rather than anger. Other survivors here have expressed it very well. I would just add two points:

1. It´s a big world, with a long history and lots of different national traditions, non-profit and for-profit institutions, etc. If there is "no cure" yet, why just blame just blame the Western medical establishment?

2. It can be brutal, but keep in mind that treatment isn´t always that bad. Nine years ago I had six cycles of chemo, and skated right through. (By the way, another vote of thanks to Stanford´s Dr. Levy and the drug Rituxan).

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Reply 31 - Posted by: kono, 4/19/2018 12:49:00 PM     (No. 11607135)

There´s more money in a lifetime subscription for medications to manage a patient´s condition than there is nailing a one-time cure. It´s the same sort of cynical business model that moved Micropoop to make Office an online service. The ´cloud´ is a calculated ripoff in this way.

A continuing stream of revenue is the goal now, not product purchases.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 4/19/2018 2:34:10 PM     (No. 11607244)

It´s hard to kill a goose that lays golden eggs.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: KatieJo, 4/20/2018 12:46:44 PM     (No. 11608194)

Oh yes I will say "never". I am completely convinced that chemo and radiation kill. I have seen it too many times and I have actually spent hundreds if not thousands of hours doing research on the subject. I may not be a doctor, but I am a mechanical engineer and therefore capable of deeply analytical thought.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 4/21/2018 12:00:31 AM     (No. 11608775)

Apologies for a second post. As a nearly 30 year survivor, I had chemo, radiation, a pneumothorax and multiple surgeries in a short period and an oncologist named Mikey. Still here. For someone who has never had cancer or the treatment, when someone tells you that you have cancer, suddenly you want to live.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: annie xango, 4/21/2018 12:23:07 AM     (No. 11608783)

I know one thing for sure that I will always do.take Turmeric..my GP takes it, my PT takes it, my Chiro takes it, my Pilates teacher takes it.AND my vet takes it..and my dogs take it..

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sea creature, name it after President Obama

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USA Today, by Doyle Rice    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 6/19/2018 2:24:56 PM     Post Reply
It lived an uneventful life in Earth´s oceans 500 million years ago, but now this newly discovered creature has an unusual honor: It´s been given the scientific name Obamus coronatus, a name that honors President Barack Obama´s passion for science. (Coronatus means "crowned.") The tiny, disc-shaped animal was about a 1/2 inch long, with raised spiral grooves on its surface. It spent its entire life embedded on the ocean floor, likely never moving, according to scientists from the University of California – Riverside. A second small animal, an egg-shaped critter that may have looked like a raisin, was also discovered.

Hillary Clinton on family separations
at border: Jesus didn’t say, ‘Let
the children suffer’

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Washington Examiner, by Emma Ayers    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 5:19:24 PM     Post Reply
Hillary Clinton weighed in Monday morning on the ongoing controversy regarding the Trump administration’s "no-tolerance” border policy, suggesting that Jesus would not condone the actions of the American border authorities. At an awards lunch for the Women’s Forum of New York, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee called out “those who selectively use the Bible” to give grounds for the separations, which were reported by the Department of Justice on Friday. “I went to a lot of years of Sunday school — even taught it from time to time. I’ve studied both the Old and New Testament, and what is being

Romney calls for ‘disturbing’
family separations to stop

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Washington Post, by Elise Viebeck    Original Article
Posted By: Tishimself- 6/19/2018 12:53:19 AM     Post Reply
Republican Senate candidate Mitt Romney called on the Trump administration Monday to stop separating immigrant families at the southern border, calling the controversy a “humanitarian crisis” that requires Congress to devise a permanent solution. Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, declined to blame President Trump or the Department of Homeland Security specifically in remarks to a group of voters at a park here. He called images of children separated from their parents “pretty disturbing” and “heartbreaking.” “I think immediately we should go back to the setting where we’re not ripping children away from their parents, and then we expect Congress to take

Democrats propose changing
legal voting age in Michigan to 16

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Detroit Free Press, by Kathleen Gray    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 6/19/2018 10:22:30 AM     Post Reply
LANSING — The unprecedented outpouring of activism from students after the shooting at Marjorie Douglas Stoneman High School in Parkland, Fla., in February is the genesis for a bill introduced in the Legislature last week that would change the voting age in Michigan to 16. "We allow 16-year-olds to go off and get jobs and pay taxes, but we fail to allow them to exercise their voice come election time," said Sen. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights. "Young people are setting aside their differences and identifying issues they think need to change. And they can do everything to get that change

Separating Families At The Border:
The Hysteria Overlooks Some Key Facts

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: RockyTCB- 6/19/2018 5:53:37 AM     Post Reply
Illegal Immigration: The latest outrage by the Trump administration is its policy of "ripping" children away from parents who´ve crossed the border illegally. As with so many other things involving Trump, there´s plenty of emotion but precious little in the way of facts. The furor reached critical mass after the Department of Homeland Security said on Friday that 1,995 children had been separated from their illegal border crossing parents from mid-April through May. That number included, DHS said, cases where the adults were arrested for illegal entry, immigration violations, or possible criminal conduct. The practice has generated a rising storm of protests,

´Darlene´ to replace ´Roseanne´
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American Thinker, by Ed Straker    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 4:59:32 AM     Post Reply
Roseanne Barr has become untouchable due to the "Valerie Jarrett/Ambien/Planet of the Apes" controversy, irrevocably contaminated by racism. This presents a problem for ABC, which canceled her revived show but wants the show to return in some form because it had high ratings. The apparent solution is to create a new show focused on the daughter character "Darlene," which would exclude Roseanne. Unfortunately, Roseanne Barr owns a chunk of the show, and ABC doesn´t want to be seen letting Barr profit from it, so ABC is in talks to buy the show from Barr so she would not technically profit

Why the OIG Report Should
Scare the Hell Out of You

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American Spectator, by David Catron    Original Article
Posted By: garnet- 6/18/2018 5:05:18 AM     Post Reply
The Justice Department’s tepid OIG report, with its risible assertion that there was no political bias in the FBI’s Clinton email probe, suggests that it was written by people afraid to tell the unvarnished truth about the conduct of the federal government’s police apparatus, an agency that openly defies congressional oversight and has participated in a vendetta against a sitting president. The FBI’s leadership clearly hopes that the Democrats will win majorities in Congress and put a halt to the investigations into its multifarious abuses of power. The OIG is loath to face the ruthless reprisals that would inevitably follow

How can FBI Director Wray clean out the
swamp if he doesn´t even see the corruption?

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Fox News, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 6/19/2018 4:38:13 AM     Post Reply
FBI Director Wray has said nothing to reassure Americans that he understands the serious corruption highlighted in the IG report. The FBI´s cover-ups and stonewalling on Wray´s watch add to his credibility problems. Both in is his press conference after the IG report was released, and in his testimony Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Director Wray demonstrated he was more concerned about protecting the reputation of the institution of the FBI than about the astonishing corruption of top FBI officials detailed in the IG report. During today’s hearing we heard about FBI agents who aren’t corrupt and how the Clinton email

CBS’s Gayle King at Texas Border Facility:
The Statue of Liberty Is ‘Weeping Right Now’

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Breitbart Video, by Pam Key    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/18/2018 11:46:24 AM     Post Reply
Monday at a border patrol facility in McAllen, TX on “CBS This Morning,” co-host Gayle King said the Statue of Liberty is “weeping right now” over the separating of immigrant children from their families. King said “We arrived yesterday afternoon. We went straight to the facility, the location where kids and their parents were reunited. All I can say after talking to the people, watching the people, listening to the people, that the Statue of Liberty I think is weeping right now. It’s unbelievable the stories we’ve heard.” She added, “We’re standing in front of a converted warehouse. This is

Comey refuses to testify to Congress,
McCabe pleads Fifth Amendment

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Washington Times, by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 6/18/2018 2:25:01 PM     Post Reply
Fired FBI Director James Comey refused to appear before Congress on Monday to talk about his handling of the Clinton email investigation, and his fired deputy, Andrew McCabe, asserted his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch also declined to show up for a major hearing where the Senate Judiciary Committee was looking into the inspector general’s report detailing major bungles in Mr. Comey’s handling of the Clinton investigation. Mr. Comey’s lawyer said he was out of the country — though Sen. Charles E. Grassley, committee chairman, said he saw Mr. Comey

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