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Prominent Science Fiction Author
Calls for Depopulating Rural Areas

PJ Media, by Tom Knighton

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Posted By:Hazymac, 3/21/2018 7:47:24 PM

Science fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the best-known names in a genre known for looking forward. However, not all writers in the genre look to the future for their ideas -- plenty are obsessed with moving backwards, from liberty back to tyranny. Robinson recently penned an op-ed in The Guardian that favors removing humans from most of the world, forcefully herding us all into cities. "The tendency of people to move to cities, either out of desire or perceived necessity, creates a great opportunity. If we managed urbanisation properly, we could nearly remove ourselves from a considerable percentage of

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The Left would like to move all of us into urban areas, housed in public units in tall buildings, dependent on public transportation. Suburbs are anthropogenic devices that allow wealthy humanity to live like a plague, overrunning like coyotes formerly pristine areas that need federal protection.

Did you know that if Duval County, Florida were covered in 20-story highrises, all 7,000,000,000+ people on earth would fit there?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Clinger, 3/21/2018 7:59:32 PM     (No. 11578985)

Somebody might want to let Kimmy in on the secret about where food comes from.

So when we play cowboys and progressives where do you think the cowboys live? Good luck with that.

And after you realize your mistake good luck figuring out how to get your equipment working because you just killed the help desk and manufacturing engineering etc..

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Reply 2 - Posted by: zuker5, 3/21/2018 8:15:23 PM     (No. 11579001)

Let them come!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: wordsmith82, 3/21/2018 8:23:43 PM     (No. 11579011)

"If we managed..." We? Who is this we you speak of?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jalo1951, 3/21/2018 8:24:40 PM     (No. 11579012)

So much easier to control you if you are all in one convenient place.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1, 3/21/2018 8:26:29 PM     (No. 11579014)

One of the components of the Communist Manifesto calls for population location control.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: PAdiva, 3/21/2018 8:30:40 PM     (No. 11579019)

Sounds like the Warsaw Ghetto.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: 68BattleofBealeVet, 3/21/2018 8:37:14 PM     (No. 11579024)

Isn´t that what Pol Pot did?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: baydreamer, 3/21/2018 8:50:14 PM     (No. 11579035)

Cities are nothing but big concentration camps, anyway.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Justavoter, 3/21/2018 8:51:39 PM     (No. 11579039)

Sure, just give me a place to hitch my horse.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lucky5, 3/21/2018 8:51:48 PM     (No. 11579040)

Lives in a rural hippy area in Californian and says climate change it going to kill us all.
I have never even heard of this guy before, and I like sci-fi.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MoBeef4u, 3/21/2018 8:53:55 PM     (No. 11579043)

Kim might benefit from reading Isaac Azimov’s trilogy that begins with The Caves of Steel. He was way smarter than her in dealing with this very scenario.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/21/2018 8:57:48 PM     (No. 11579051)

Obviously, concocted the theory after his third bong load. He then went out to sing to the stars.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: dvc, 3/21/2018 9:02:17 PM     (No. 11579053)

I call for depopulating this author.

I wonder if they have the slightest clue where food comes from, other than restaurants, or for the adventuresome NYC denizen, a grocery store?

Think hard, idiot, before the restaurant or grocery store is .... what?

A farm, ranch or feedlot in a RURAL area, run by those poor, ignorant, evil people who you all love to hate.

Perhaps we could cut off food supplies to cities larger than, say 100,000 people for a month and see how they like it?

It turns out that a whole lot of factories these days are also in rural areas, well out of big cities.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: clipped wings, 3/21/2018 9:18:23 PM     (No. 11579064)

Several posters mention the idea of controlling the people. Concentrating them in a confined are is one.
Limiting their mobility is one that no one has mentioned on this forum. Has no one ever thought that electric cars limit the mobility of the population? Suppose the peons cannot go very far or very fast, and are concentrated in a small area (and disarmed). Control becomes easier.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: dvc, 3/21/2018 9:33:26 PM     (No. 11579081)

#14, I have thought along the same lines as you are. Forcing us into electric cars will limit our ability to move around. Far easier to control.
Believe that this is all part of a plan to end all this problematic "freedom stuff". Stalin has millions of admirers who all think that they can do a better job of what he did.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/21/2018 9:39:25 PM     (No. 11579092)

What international Big Green (Inc.), the Democratic [sic] Party, Al Gore, and the entire political Left hate, and want to stop and roll back is "suburban sprawl." What is suburban sprawl? It´s going out to the country, living in the country. They want to make that illegal. On private land, at least. They don´t like private much of anything, except maybe private parts. Obama still claps with his political trained seals, flippers flapping and clapping, uh-uh-uh.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lavalette, 3/21/2018 9:49:20 PM     (No. 11579100)

You could do that naturally and on a purely voluntary basis by making cities attractive to live in. This might include things like suppressing crime and lowering taxes and regulations on businesses. But these ideas would never be considered.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: NYbob, 3/21/2018 10:18:46 PM     (No. 11579118)

The progressivecommunist plan ALWAYS starts with some nebulous force of armed killers doing their bidding. Suppressing, punishing or ´rounding up,´ those that clawing tyrants like Mr, Robinson want to control. Hey, Kim, do you really have such contempt for the hard men and women in the US military that you think they will obey every lunatic thought a half baked writer comes up with? Of course you do. You are published writer. You´ve won prizes and give talks. You ´know´ the earth is being ´baked.´

Maybe there are enough willfully ignorant ego maniacs like this writer to push things so far that every American citizen will have to pick a side. Done it before Kim and punks like you don´t make the cut, but maybe this time will be different. Maybe you can wonder what happened to Global Warming when the sun sleeps and we huddle through a mini Ice Age of a hundred years or so.

I love th irony of a know it all Sci Fi dreamer depending on blatantly manipulated readings to prove a theory of lies made up so some greedhead elitists can make even more money.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Bogeegolf, 3/21/2018 10:29:10 PM     (No. 11579126)

Buy more ammo

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Rivetjoint, 3/21/2018 10:30:05 PM     (No. 11579128)

Probably part of the crowd that thinks food comes from the grocery store and electricity comes from the wall.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hpmatt, 3/21/2018 10:50:28 PM     (No. 11579140)

She must have read Schlichter’s “Indian Country”....hahaha...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dvc, 3/21/2018 11:20:07 PM     (No. 11579168)

#21, I think she is a he. Not that it makes any difference.

Any who haven´t read "Indian Country" by Schlichter, should.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Caveman, 3/21/2018 11:24:55 PM     (No. 11579174)

You can have my land when you pry it from my cold dead hands, or something to that effect.
I am the ultimate science fiction fan. Made it a third of the way through one if Kim´s books. That´s it.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Newtsche, 3/21/2018 11:29:47 PM     (No. 11579180)

Alternative plan, turn Kim Stanley Robinson into hog feed.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: mamafrog, 3/22/2018 12:11:35 AM     (No. 11579198)

Kim Stanley Robinson is a man. I have read one and a half of his VERY long novels. The ones I read were the first two of the four novels in his Mars trilogy. I learned quite a bit about terraforming.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: LoneVoice, 3/22/2018 12:29:19 AM     (No. 11579205)

I think this author should be placed in a science fiction device (it should be invented just for use on potential overlords like this jerk.)

He should live out the rest of his days in a pain amplification chamber.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Omen, 3/22/2018 1:11:52 AM     (No. 11579213)

Sounds like Kim has a twin in NK.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: pchristopher, 3/22/2018 1:26:20 AM     (No. 11579215)

The Left is what needs depopulating.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Trigger2, 3/22/2018 3:58:33 AM     (No. 11579231)

Indoctrinated public school and college attendees would all fall for this and find themselves slaves to the elitist living a lavish life style in rural areas and working themselves to death supporting them.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: franq, 3/22/2018 6:05:12 AM     (No. 11579254)

I´ll stick to Edgar Rice Burroughs for my sci-fi, thank you.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: MainelySane, 3/22/2018 6:47:03 AM     (No. 11579282)

Nikolai Ceaucescau?

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Reply 32 - Posted by: steveW, 3/22/2018 7:07:34 AM     (No. 11579291)

Why would anyone read any other sic-fi than Heinlein?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: strike3, 3/22/2018 7:27:38 AM     (No. 11579298)

How about we wall up the cities and the city folk can just leave us bumpkins alone? Somebody has to milk the cows every day.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Bubby, 3/22/2018 8:11:17 AM     (No. 11579346)

What would the populated areas that are left eat if the rural areas are depopulated? Seems to me it should be the urban areas that need depopulated if anything is depopulated. But I´m not a science fiction author trying to get some free publicity for an unreadable book.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Rather Read, 3/22/2018 8:19:37 AM     (No. 11579361)

A lot of early science fiction warned against the overreaching of an all-powerful State. Now, some science fiction writers like Mr. Robinson seem to think an all-powerful State is a good thing.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Udanja99, 3/22/2018 8:24:41 AM     (No. 11579367)

Agenda 21, folks. Why do you think all of those bike paths have been popping in city streets for the last couple of decades?

Robinson needs to put his mouth where his life is and remove himself from the planet if he wants to be taken seriously. When he spouts this idiocy, the first question he should be asked is, “Why are you still here”?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: TCloud, 3/22/2018 8:48:13 AM     (No. 11579392)

Disarmed and pushed...remember the Massacre at Wounded Knee!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Namma, 3/22/2018 9:06:32 AM     (No. 11579407)

This is called Agenda 21. In fact, it is being put into place a little at a time. Did your city put I bike lanes. You know those lanes that are along side car lanes
There use to be two lanes for the cars. w there is only one lane with the bike lane running along side the one car lane This is to get people out of cars and onto bikes. Like China. Check Agenda 21 out. Many cities are putting new regulations in and you don´t know it. And the people pushing this 21 stuff, are nasty and sneaky. look them up

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Reply 39 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 3/22/2018 9:22:08 AM     (No. 11579420)

Texans say, "Come and take it."

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Reply 40 - Posted by: dvc, 3/22/2018 10:27:41 AM     (No. 11579489)

Heinlein.

If you haven´t read his books, you should.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/22/2018 11:23:00 AM     (No. 11579543)

Short range electric cars, bike paths, public transportation, and our constant companions: cell phone GPS.

We got too much movin´ goin on out there. Can´t tell what the people are up to.



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Reply 42 - Posted by: wendybird, 3/22/2018 11:25:44 AM     (No. 11579548)

There has never been a decent female science fiction writer.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: toddh, 3/22/2018 11:33:51 AM     (No. 11579562)

#32 - Because Bradbury was almost prophetic, Niven & Pournelle made hard SF like diamonds and as a side project took down the Soviet Union (Pournelle´s claims will leave you smiling), Herbert illustrated the unbreakable link between terrorism and jihad, Clarke discovered geosynchronous orbits amongst 2001 other stories, Spinrad wrote the only alternative history worth its paper and ink, Anderson got patriotic with New Americans and warped with tau, l´Engle combined morality with higher dimensions, Blish sent Jesuits to space, Schaara had a life before Gettysburg, and Silverberg tried to anthologize all of them in between his own work.

I could go on, for days ;-)

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Penney, 3/22/2018 12:30:02 PM     (No. 11579602)

Driving to the West coast is quite an eye-opener these days as there are countless once thriving little towns along the way which are now either dying or already dead. sad

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Udanja99, 3/22/2018 12:51:03 PM     (No. 11579614)

#42, Kim is not a female.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Cor-Vet, 3/22/2018 2:11:30 PM     (No. 11579668)

Someone actually sent me an article from, I believe, a San Francisco newspaper, where the writer said that we uneducated country hicks needed to stop killing animals and get our meat in the grocery stores, where it´s made! And we´re the dummies?

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 3/22/2018 3:38:05 PM     (No. 11579715)

First off, the genre known as Science Fiction today is not the same as what most of us oldsters enjoyed as kids. It has been infested with SJW rot and especially putrid is the quiet support of pedophilia.

The daughter of a supposed iconic SF writer just released her own book documenting what a hellish childhood she had, molested by her parents. This genre has long past gone to the sewer If you enjoy the genre, look backwards at the old authors. The current crop pushed by the Publishing Houses are not worth it.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Crashnburn, 3/22/2018 7:58:39 PM     (No. 11579868)

I stopped reading Sci-Fi after I read all of Heinlein, Clarke, Bradbury, and Asimov. I started up again with the Honor Harrington series, and am now working on the Star Carrier series. I had never heard of this Kim fellow, and will be sure not to read his books.

Around 1900, it took 90% of the US population to feed 100%. Today, it takes less than 10% to feed 100%. Those 10% are one of the few businesses that buy retail, and sell wholesale. Mining and energy companies also come to mind.

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Kramerbooks, located in Washington’s trendy Dupont Circle district, is the place Washingtonians go to hang out, browse books, and grab something to eat at the attached cafe. It’s much smaller than a Barnes and Noble and has survived Amazon because it is cozy and inviting, offering the feeling that you are immersed within a warm den of great books. And if you’re going to sell a political book, it’s a good place to start, given the clientele. The place was open at 12:01 am Tuesday morning expecting long lines for James Comey’s new book, “I’ve Got Higher Morals than You,” or “I’m

Democrat calls on Fox News
to fire Sean Hannity: ‘His word
can never again be trusted’

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Washington Times, by Victor Morton    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2018 8:52:40 PM     Post Reply
A Democratic lawmaker demanded Monday evening that Fox News Channel fire Sean Hannity for having Michael Cohen as a lawyer. Rep. Gerry Connolly, Virginia Democrat, said on CNN that Mr. Hannity is untrustworthy because he did not disclose his ties to Mr. Cohen while commenting on or covering the Trump administration. “I think he is so into this like a pig in the mud he can’t get out of it. And I think he deserves to be fired. His word can never again be trusted,” Mr. Connolly said, calling the revelation at a court hearing earlier Monday “a big stain on Hannity

Clean up San Francisco’s streets,
tourist industry pleads

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Heather Knight    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2018 4:45:39 AM     Post Reply
As president of S.F. Travel, the city’s visitors bureau, Joe D’Alessandro’s job is to promote San Francisco. You’d think he’d be hyping the city’s gorgeous vistas, top-notch restaurants and glorious museums. Instead, he’s getting honest. Sure, San Francisco has great facets worthy of postcards and travel books, but it also has a worsening underbelly that D’Alessandro says he can no longer gloss over. People injecting themselves with drugs in broad daylight, their dirty needles and other garbage strewn on the sidewalks. Tent camps. Human feces. The threatening behavior of some people who appear either mentally ill or high. Petty theft. “The streets are

James Comey Says He Modeled His
Leadership After LeBron James:
‘I Used to Talk About Him All Over the FBI’

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Breitbart Video, by Trent Baker    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 4/17/2018 12:38:45 PM     Post Reply
During a Tuesday interview with “Good Morning America,” former FBI Director praised Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James, saying he learned a lot about leadership from the future Hall of Fame. “I admire LeBron James, and he’s probably about to find out I used to talk about him all over the FBI and say he illustrates what the endless pursuit of excellence looks like,” Comey told host George Stephanopoulos. He continued, “Every offseason, I’ve read, he tries to find a part of his game to make better — which is crazy, because he’s already better than everybody else. It’s because he measures himself

Eric Holder to Help Starbucks Train
Employees For ‘Racial Bias Education Day’

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Gateway Pundit, by Cristina Laila    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2018 1:59:24 PM     Post Reply
On Tuesday, Starbucks announced it will be closing 8,000 stores on May 29 so 175,000 employees can attend a training program that will address implicit bias, promote inclusion and help prevent discrimination, NBC reports. Eric Holder was tapped as one of the ‘experts’ to assist with training the employees. That’s all you need to know. NBC reported: Starbucks said Tuesday it will be closing all of its company-owned restaurants in the U.S. during the afternoon of May 29 to conduct a racial-bias education program. “I’ve spent the last few days in Philadelphia with my leadership team listening to the community,

He Went There=> Twitter Erupts After
James Woods Asks For Photo Evidence
Obama Attended Columbia University

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Gateway Pundit, by Cristina Laila    Original Article
Posted By: Maryland_Patriot- 4/17/2018 12:01:38 PM     Post Reply
James Woods went there. Late Saturday night, patriotic actor James Woods asked anyone who attended Columbia University and recalled Obama as a student there to please respond by tweeting a picture of him at Columbia. Twitter erupted and the responses were hilarious. Barry Hussein Obama’s records are still sealed so we don’t know what his grades were like nor do we know the content of any papers he wrote. People who attended Columbia University at the same time as Obama do not recall seeing him or having any classes with him.

David Hogg calls for boycotts
of Blackrock, Vanguard Group

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Washington Times, by Victor Morton    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/17/2018 11:02:19 PM     Post Reply
After starting an advertiser boycott of Fox News Channel host Laura Ingraham, gun-control activist David Hogg has set his sights on two new targets — iconic gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson and its capital backers. In a series of tweets Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hogg sicced his 764,000 Twitter followers on five investment companies, singling out two most of all — Blackrock and Vanguard Group. “.@blackrock and @Vanguard_Group are two of the biggest investors in gun manufacturers; if you use them, feel free to let them know,” he tweeted with a winking emoji. In one follow-up tweet he used the hashtags #BoycottBlackrock and

American Muslims launch political campaigns,
hope to deliver ´sweet justice´ to Trump

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Washington Post, by Abigail Hauslohner    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/17/2018 9:17:08 AM     Post Reply
SAN DIEGO - Fayaz Nawabi has never met President Donald Trump. But he credits the president with convincing him to run for office. Nawabi, a 31-year-old candidate for San Diego City Council, supports almost everything that Trump opposes: He is pro-affordable housing, pro-environment, pro-immigrant and pro-refugee. That makes him part of the blue wave of new liberal candidates spurred to run by Trump´s election and policies. But Nawabi is also part of a notable subset: the blue Muslim wave. More than 90 American Muslims, nearly all of them Democrats, are running for public office across the country this year. Many

Starbucks Closing 8,000 Stores
For An Afternoon, For Racial-Bias

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National Public Radio, by Camila Domonske    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/17/2018 10:17:42 PM     Post Reply
Starbucks is closing thousands of stores across the U.S. on the afternoon of May 29 to conduct "racial-bias education geared toward preventing discrimination in our stores," the company said in a statement. The coffee shop chain has been criticized and protested against after two black men were arrested last week at a Starbucks in Philadelphia, where they were quietly waiting to meet someone. Starbucks employees called 911 after one of the men, who had not yet purchased anything, asked to use the bathroom and then remained at the shop. Other customers recorded the arrest and protested that the men hadn´t

Kids sue Rick Scott for ‘immoral’
silence on climate change

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New York Post, by Chris Perez    Original Article
Posted By: mc squared- 4/17/2018 9:11:09 AM     Post Reply
A group of kids is suing Florida Gov. Rick Scott, claiming he “endangered” their future and violated their constitutional rights by not doing anything to combat climate change. The youngsters filed their lawsuit on Monday in Leon County Court. “It is the responsibility of the state to uphold the constitution, and these young people have a fundamental right to a stable climate system,” said Guy Burns, lead counsel for the eight plaintiffs, most of whom are teens. The youths are being represented by the Oregon-based nonprofit organization Our Children’s Trust, which is supporting similar suits from children across the country.


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