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Is Florida on track for a
record year of manatee deaths?

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:Ribicon, 3/12/2018 12:07:56 PM

Miami – A watchdog groups say Florida is on pace for another record year for manatee deaths. So far, 166 manatees have died statewide through March 2. Cold spells are to blame for 51 deaths. The Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility Executive Director Jeff Ruch says Florida manatees are one big freeze away from an ecological disaster. Red tide and boating deaths are another concern as manatees seeking warm waters often get stuck in residential canals. Florida´s annual manatee counts have more than doubled in the past 20 years, to more than 6,600. The federal government reclassified them from endangered to

Global Warming is killing the manatees by making everything colder; they freeze from the global warming, or head for warmer areas where they´re hit by boats. Also, the manatee population has doubled, so more deaths would be expected... but, #TheScienceIsSettled.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Toledo, 3/12/2018 12:10:46 PM     (No. 11569397)

Oh is that why they´re wearing t-shirts in that Geico commercial? Brrrr

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bnrmusa, 3/12/2018 12:42:56 PM     (No. 11569452)

RIP Snooty

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Reply 3 - Posted by: hpmatt, 3/12/2018 12:53:00 PM     (No. 11569459)

Either Global Warming getting them, or they forgot to wear their coats, instead of those T-shirts....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/12/2018 1:20:55 PM     (No. 11569498)

Different years, different conditions on land and offshore. In 2010, although we saw no extremely cold (around here, defined as under 30) conditions, temperatures in January and February varied between the upper 30s and the upper 50s, never or almost never warmer than this, nearly every day for two months, well below average (high 70, low 51 average in the nadir of winter). It got cold in our residences, and our power bills soared as the heat strips got an eight week workout.

Water temperatures, which in normal winters get down to the low 60s, got to 48 as far south as Venice, which is south of Sarasota, and about 47 around here, as cold as I´ve seen it in 36 years. Temperature sensitive species like ladyfish, snook ... and manatees died of cold. (Continued)

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/12/2018 1:21:35 PM     (No. 11569501)

Snook, a great game fish that is also great on the dinner table, can be caught and kept with a snook stamp on one´s fishing license if the fish is in the slot--generally speaking, between 28 and 33-34 inches--and is caught during the few allowed times of the year. It may not be sold at a fish market or in a restaurant.

But especially, manatees are protected. They can be killed by red tide, low water temperatures, and (most preventable) by boat propellers. The article states as much. Being living creatures they have life spans, and can presumably catch diseases of which marine biologists are not yet aware. That´s the bad news.

The good news is that manatees´ overall population is up sharply over the last two decades, somewhere above 6,000 now and (we think) increasing. Their normal wintering grounds are brackish waters of coastal rivers on both Florida coasts, but some remain in the area year round. I have occasionally seen them in all months in the Sand Key area, in the harbor on one side and in the surf on the other.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: rubberneck, 3/12/2018 1:23:58 PM     (No. 11569504)

I´m sure a few were killed when frozen iguanas fell out of trees, and conked ´em on the head.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: dvc, 3/12/2018 2:07:19 PM     (No. 11569546)

Manatees dying from "global warming" by succumbing to the cold.

Another bit of evidence that nobody wants to talk about. In 1965, in central Florida, on the E-W line of State Route 20, there were hundreds of small private orange groves, including ours of a few acres, which local fruit companies picked, sorted and shipped each year, for a small profit for all.

And on US 301 just south of the SR 20 intersection a few miles, the commercial orange groves flowed off to the horizon, many thousands of acres of mature trees, maybe 20-30 years old. Orange trees take about 10 years to become productive, cannot withstand a freeze much below 30F without severe tree damage.

By 1970, the local fruit company that picked the small groves on Rt 20 east of Gainesville was closed permanently, all the local trees frozen out. By 1972 all the miles and miles of commercial groves along US 301 just south of Rt 20 were just dead trees, permanently lost to citrus production.
Discussion of this with a 95 year old store owner near there found this interesting tidbit. In his 20s and 30s (~1890s) he had traveled to south Georgia, about 80 or 90 miles north each year to work picking oranges in the large commercial groves there, which were frozen out, I believe in the 1920s.

The farthest north major commercial citrus groves that I know of now in Fla are at least 80-90 miles south of where they were in 1965.

This is apparently all caused by "global warming".

Yeah, right.

Biggest scam every run.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: joew9, 3/12/2018 2:23:41 PM     (No. 11569574)

They used to find comfort in the warm wastewater output of the nuclear power plants. But the cruel EPA closed them down and now they shiver in the cold caused by uncaring environmentalists. It´s all so sad.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ribald1, 3/12/2018 2:54:00 PM     (No. 11569608)

The manatee appears to be nearly devoid of intelligence and has limited, if any, ability to adapt to changing surroundings.
Sounds like a perfect candidate for extinction, as has been the fate of over 99% of all species that have lived on earth.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: oldsfc, 3/12/2018 4:13:07 PM     (No. 11569692)

Bozos driving boats kill a lot of manatees. Far more than cold weather.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: volksford, 3/12/2018 5:13:51 PM     (No. 11569741)

Funny you should mention that #7, I was telling my daughter (a global warming believer) just this weekend about the citrus line. I informed her that she grew up in an area with communities named Fruit Cove, Citrus,Orangedale,Orange Heights and Satsuma here in NE Florida. They didn´t pick the names from a lottery.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/12/2018 5:49:10 PM     (No. 11569778)

Frozen? I thought they were going to boil when the oceans rose and flooded our cities.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: dvc, 3/12/2018 5:50:44 PM     (No. 11569779)

Yes, sir. Think about it. Commercial orange groves on a grand scale in south Georgia in 1890s, now the northernmost commercial groves are 160+ mile south, a century later.

That is hard data, cannot be manipulated by the liars at NOAA, or "corrected away". To have a commercial grove you have to spend a huge sum to plan thousands of trees and then graft on the sweet citrus stock to the sour orange root stock. Then they need no significant freezes for five years before they produce a penny, and are in ´full production´ in about a decade. A couple of freezes in the 23-25F range for more than a few hours and the trees are DEAD, irrevocable. Even 28-30F requires smudge pots to obscure the sky, reduce radiant cooling, which no doubt the EPA would arrest you for today.

Hard historic proof, cannot be faked. Florida has been cooling for more than a century.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: dvc, 3/13/2018 1:35:53 AM     (No. 11570197)

Yeah, I know where Satsuma and went to HS near there, a friend used to live in Orange Springs.
Not much citrus still survives that far north, certainly nothing on a commercial scale. A few single trees in sheltered locations near a lake is about it.

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