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How would you vote on
age limit, 3-day wait for gun
purchases? It might be on ballot.

Tampa Bay Times, by Mary Ellen Klas

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Posted By:Hazymac, 3/11/2018 8:22:28 PM

With the first gun control measure signed into law in decades, a key Republican member of the Florida Constitutional Revision Commission has drafted a proposal to make sure the age limits and waiting period stand up to any constitutional challenge from opponents. The proposal, by Miami attorney and CRC member Roberto Martinez, was filed with the CRC on Friday, just moments after Gov. Rick Scott signed SB 7026 into law, which bans the sale of any firearm in Florida to anyone over the age of 21, imposes a three-day waiting period on all handgun purchases and bans bump stocks. The CRC meets

No on everything. Principle. (Even though I think bump stocks are useless, except as ammo wasters.)

Any concealed weapon permit holder voting for a three day waiting period for a pistol purchase would be voting against his own right to buy it and put it in his holster immediately. That´s one of the (reasonable) privileges of the CWP.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 3/11/2018 8:39:26 PM     (No. 11568809)

I trust they mean under 21, not over 21

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Reply 2 - Posted by: strike3, 3/11/2018 8:44:26 PM     (No. 11568814)

OVER the age of 21? These writers are ridiculous, can´t even get basic details correct. I realize that the 3 day limit is a cooling off period but if you hate somebody enough to shoot them, you can wait three days. All of these rules are a waste of time but okay, you DID something. Good for you.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: zuker5, 3/11/2018 8:50:11 PM     (No. 11568820)

At 18, people are allowed to move out and live on their own. That’s when adulthood begins. Do people really think that 18, 19, and 20 year olds living on their own should not be allowed to protect and defend themselves like everyone 21 and older can?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/11/2018 8:53:17 PM     (No. 11568821)

I noticed the same thing #1 and #2 did. By now the author has probably been apprised of the unintentional error. As you know we are prohibited from changing or editing any copyrighted material we post here, so until it´s corrected at the source, the error in the original article stands. And those above are right to write, or even to think, that these left of center political writers tend to know close to nothing about firearms.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Italiano, 3/11/2018 8:53:25 PM     (No. 11568822)

I´m in California. I´d vote for three. Right now it´s ten.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 3/11/2018 9:19:59 PM     (No. 11568840)

Again, give democrats nothing on gun control. Democrats never back off. We know their ultimate goal is a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Bleeding hearts who don´t seek a gun grab, but favor new laws to "do something" about school shootings, are useful idiots.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bogeegolf, 3/11/2018 9:23:54 PM     (No. 11568844)

I would rather vote for something that would actually protect the kids that are basically sitting ducks in our schools. How about abolishing the department of education and use the money saved to provide the security needed. Everything was scanned and searched at the high school hockey tournament I just came back from.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: califedup, 3/11/2018 9:24:17 PM     (No. 11568845)

The gun control bill just passed and signed into law by the spineless republican legislators and the gutless political hack Governor Scott, is just another cowardly caving into the democrat party communists relentless war on our 2nd Amendment rights under the Constitution using the horrific Parkland murders as a reason to achieve their end goal of gun confiscation.

Scott wants to run for the Senate and guess what? He has just alienated most of his voter base by signing this terrible bill into law. I will never, ever vote for Scott for any office.

By the way President Trump better tread very, very carefully with all his talk of imposing gun controls at the federal level. This is one issue where his base will not give him a pass.

Why are innocent, law abiding citizens, who have done nothing wrong being treated like criminals because the government in Broward County is totally responsible for not preventing the Parkland murders?

Why vote republican? They betray us over and over again.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Cor-Vet, 3/11/2018 9:49:11 PM     (No. 11568861)

I´ve a CCW, and hope I never have to use my carry weapon. I don´t see any use for ´bump-stocks´, as OP posted. I just feel that with the liberal democrats, if you give them one inch, they´ll ask for the mile, so I vote no on everything. And I´m really getting tired of that Soros/ CNN student shill, Hogg and his constant reminder of his 17 fellow ´friends´ and classmates that can´t help change the world now. The little putz has no life experiences to fall back on. If he´d been in ´Nam, Iran or Afghanistan, maybe he´d have some credibility!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: harleynyc, 3/11/2018 9:53:54 PM     (No. 11568864)

Too many trigger happy idiots out there. Background/Sanity Evaluation and an 8 hour safety course.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: fayebeck, 3/11/2018 9:55:57 PM     (No. 11568868)

I would vote against any INFRINGEMENT to owning or purchasing a gun.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: 1976Ag, 3/11/2018 10:16:52 PM     (No. 11568880)

"shall not be infringed".

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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/11/2018 10:17:44 PM     (No. 11568884)

As others have stated, there is already a 3 day wait for those without a CWP, and I´m not giving up mine. I´ve liked Scott, but he´ll have to walk this back before his senate run.
I hope he´s primaried.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Justavoter, 3/11/2018 10:53:46 PM     (No. 11568896)

How about we write a law that states if any government official fails to properly follow up on any warnings that someone could do harm to himself or others can be held both civilly and criminally liable.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dixonnh, 3/11/2018 11:00:12 PM     (No. 11568900)

Not constitutional. Cannot limit the sale to those under 21. Why would anyone want to limit the number of shots to 10 or 3? Now who will be in charge of the criminals on the streets to make sure their guns only fire no more than 3 or 10 rounds? Don´t punish the law abiding citizen that has the right to bear arms. Enforce the laws on the books...NO new laws.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ginadee, 3/11/2018 11:12:02 PM     (No. 11568906)

The 2nd amendment stands. That is part of our constitution. If you start playing around with it, then what about other parts? Leave it alone.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 3/11/2018 11:14:58 PM     (No. 11568908)

And any of these would change what, beside making a bunch of legislative blowhards feel unjustifiably good about themselves?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: FLCracker, 3/11/2018 11:16:19 PM     (No. 11568910)

I think 21 ought to be the age of majority, consent, drinking, voting, enlistment without parents´ permission, consentual sex, marriage, etc.

In other words, it should be 21 on everything.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Nodak, 3/11/2018 11:58:29 PM     (No. 11568927)

A while back, I visited a USAF base. In the visitor center where I stopped first were some Military Police, carrying what I believe to be loaded M16s. These are fully automatic, military issue firearms being carried by Airmen, some of whom looked like, and most likely were, 18-19 years old. So the Air Force can issue them a fully automatic M16, but they would not be allowed to purchase a semi-automatic AR15? How blithering stupid is that? By the way, I felt perfectly safe in the presence of these heavily armed young men and women.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: dvc, 3/11/2018 11:59:40 PM     (No. 11568929)

#10, clearly deeply infected with NYC disease.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/12/2018 12:15:44 AM     (No. 11568939)

You can take away every gun in the US, but a mentally unstable person will find a way to hurt you. Why aren´t we talking about mental illness and why are the shooters young males within a certain age bracket and all on psychotropics? Did they all take the same drug? Why not young women? Blacks are less likely to get therapy and drug treatment, so I rule them out.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ladydawgfan, 3/12/2018 12:16:05 AM     (No. 11568940)

Is "No" the only choice or can we vote "H3LL, no!!!"???

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dvc, 3/12/2018 12:37:46 AM     (No. 11568948)

We have lost far, far too much of our gun rights.

Not one more inch!

". . . shall not be infringed."

We are way past infringed, need to unwind most of the 20,000+ gun laws in place, not add any more infringements.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: NYbob, 3/12/2018 1:44:33 AM     (No. 11568965)

Wow, I guess the site had a vote and the new age to fight and maybe die for the United States of America is going to be 21. Fascinating.

I really dislike pandering lawyers turned politicians and a lying media who runs after every shallow, trending, emotional issue. Too much to ask of everyone to maybe read a bit, learn the numbers, compare a little history. No we all run around screaming stupid, feel good laws that do nothing except make the streets even safer for criminals and lunatics. Nice job everyone.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: pchristopher, 3/12/2018 2:28:35 AM     (No. 11568973)

Ask me how I´d vote on mouthy Sheriffs who falsely accuse others of complicity in order to deflect from their own incompetence..That´s what should be on the ballot.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: strike3, 3/12/2018 5:03:40 AM     (No. 11568983)

Most of the left´s restrictions that they would like to impose do not make sense because their goal is not what they claim it is. All they had to do was ask the honest question of what could be done that would have stopped Cruz and most school shooters. None of these new rules apply to the real cause and somebody who claims to be able to govern a state should know that. The FBI should have paid attention. The doors should have been locked and controlled. The first armed men on the scene should have gone directly to the shooter. Here are three huge failures that have absolutely nothing to do with guns.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: franq, 3/12/2018 6:00:55 AM     (No. 11568998)

If there´s one thing I´ve learned about referendums, it´s that they are subject to the whim of some judge. So in CA, say, it could be pushed back to 10 days just like that...

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Reply 28 - Posted by: lakerman1, 3/12/2018 7:38:48 AM     (No. 11569043)

#14, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot expect police protection from the police.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 3/12/2018 8:00:23 AM     (No. 11569055)

If it makes it on the ballot as a constitutional amendment it will probably pass - Florida has a history of making stupid ideas constitutional.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 3/12/2018 8:10:21 AM     (No. 11569068)

At least it is on a ballot. Usually they just try to shove their gun laws down our throats.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: hershey, 3/12/2018 8:21:02 AM     (No. 11569080)

As Sgt. Schultz would say, ´give them nothing´...we have already ´compromised´ enough:

1934 National Firearms Act
1968 The Gun Control Act
1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act
1993 Brady Handgun Violence Act
1994 Assault Weapons Ban
1995 Gun Free School Zone Act

What good did it do? You cannot legislate morality, and that is the problem.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: SALady, 3/12/2018 11:17:33 AM     (No. 11569305)

Sorry #10, but who will be determining WHO can pass your "Background/Sanity Evaluation", and WHAT constitutes "passing" it?????

No, all it takes for a LIE-beral Gestapo government like Cubafornia to decide that anyone who is a member of the NRA is "not sane" and cannot own weapons.

When the so-called "mental health experts" in this country decided that homosexuality and transsexuality were no longer mental illnesses and were "totally normal", I lost all faith in them to judge anyone´s "sanity"!!!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Smart11344, 3/12/2018 12:00:05 PM     (No. 11569375)

Tell me, how many 18 year olds can support themselves living on their own. Very few. I´d suggest repealing their right to vote. The majority don´t have a clue.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: JansGraphix, 3/13/2018 11:07:05 AM     (No. 11570602)

Gov Scott would like us to believe he is conservative. Then he caves to the left on this. Glad to hear that the NRA is suing over this idiocy. Scott like McConnell and Ryan and their fellow ´progressive´ travelers are in the wrong party.

They, like the other leftists, use our freedoms against us and to shut us down. I wish they would move to Venezuela or Cuba or Syria or Iran where they would be more ´comfortable´ and leave us the h*ll alone.

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Police in Glendale, Wis., are currently seeking the public’s help in identifying an irate McDonald’s customer who assaulted a teenage employee after receiving the wrong breakfast order. The suspect and a friend reportedly pulled up to the drive-thru of the McDonald’s just before 11 a.m. on March 18, where they placed an order for a breakfast sandwich with bacon, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. But upon receiving a breakfast sandwich with sausage instead, the woman became angry. “What the [expletive] is this? I didn´t order no sausage biscuit,” said the woman, who then threw the food back at the

U.S. Risks Return to Days of
Segregation, Says Lee in
DNC Fundraising Mailer

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/19/2018 2:28:15 PM     Post Reply
A fundraising email from the Democratic National Committee today featured a member of the Congressional Black Caucus vowing that the country could not go back to the days of segregated schools and lunch counters. The subject line of the email is Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) saying, "I boycotted Trump´s inauguration. Here´s why." (Snip) "After riding racism and fear to the White House, Trump is now pushing policies that harm people of color, immigrants, and working people. For many of us, his presidency represents an attack on our very existence," she said. "But we cannot afford to give up hope. There

The rage of President Trump
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Washington Examiner [DC], by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 3/20/2018 5:07:53 AM     Post Reply
President Trump says he didn´t collude with Russia in 2016, promising something to a foreign country in exchange for his installation as president. That seems increasingly likely to prove true. Where they do not spring from simple malignancy, critics’ arguments that Trump used Russian intervention to win the election are mostly an excuse to avoid the plain truth that Hillary Clinton deservedly lost because she was an awful candidate. And the country is better for that result. We aren’t persuaded, either, that the Russians’ paltry $100,000 in Facebook spending had anything to do with Trump’s win, given that very little of it

Black Caucus members call
for action on Austin bombings

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New York Post, by Chris Perez    Original Article
Posted By: mc squared- 3/20/2018 9:55:38 AM     Post Reply
Congressional Black Caucus members want the bombings in Austin, Texas, to be classified as “terrorist attacks” — and are calling on officials to determine whether they are “ideologically or racially motivated.” While the two young men injured in the most recent blast are both white, all of the other victims have been either black or Hispanic. “We cannot stand idly by while our communities are under attack,” reads a statement from the concerned Black Caucus members — which include Chairman Cedric Richmond, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) and Homeland Security Committee Ranking Democrat Bennie Thompson, of Mississippi

‘It’s Not That Crazy’ — Hillary Clinton Defends
Offensive Comments About American Women

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Breitbart Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/19/2018 3:04:44 PM     Post Reply
Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton defended her controversial comment trying to explain why the majority of white women voted for her opponent Donald Trump.“As much as I hate the possibility, and hate saying it, it’s not that crazy when you think about our ongoing struggle to reach gender balance – even within the same household,” she wrote in an over 800-word Facebook statement defending her comments.Clinton drew fire from Republicans after she told an audience in India that white women did not vote for her in 2016 because they faced “ongoing pressure” from their husbands, male bosses, and sons to

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