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How would you vote on
age limit, 3-day wait for gun
purchases? It might be on ballot.

Tampa Bay Times, by Mary Ellen Klas

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Posted By:Hazymac, 3/11/2018 8:22:28 PM

With the first gun control measure signed into law in decades, a key Republican member of the Florida Constitutional Revision Commission has drafted a proposal to make sure the age limits and waiting period stand up to any constitutional challenge from opponents. The proposal, by Miami attorney and CRC member Roberto Martinez, was filed with the CRC on Friday, just moments after Gov. Rick Scott signed SB 7026 into law, which bans the sale of any firearm in Florida to anyone over the age of 21, imposes a three-day waiting period on all handgun purchases and bans bump stocks. The CRC meets

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No on everything. Principle. (Even though I think bump stocks are useless, except as ammo wasters.)

Any concealed weapon permit holder voting for a three day waiting period for a pistol purchase would be voting against his own right to buy it and put it in his holster immediately. That´s one of the (reasonable) privileges of the CWP.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 3/11/2018 8:39:26 PM     (No. 11568809)

I trust they mean under 21, not over 21

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Reply 2 - Posted by: strike3, 3/11/2018 8:44:26 PM     (No. 11568814)

OVER the age of 21? These writers are ridiculous, can´t even get basic details correct. I realize that the 3 day limit is a cooling off period but if you hate somebody enough to shoot them, you can wait three days. All of these rules are a waste of time but okay, you DID something. Good for you.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: zuker5, 3/11/2018 8:50:11 PM     (No. 11568820)

At 18, people are allowed to move out and live on their own. That’s when adulthood begins. Do people really think that 18, 19, and 20 year olds living on their own should not be allowed to protect and defend themselves like everyone 21 and older can?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/11/2018 8:53:17 PM     (No. 11568821)

I noticed the same thing #1 and #2 did. By now the author has probably been apprised of the unintentional error. As you know we are prohibited from changing or editing any copyrighted material we post here, so until it´s corrected at the source, the error in the original article stands. And those above are right to write, or even to think, that these left of center political writers tend to know close to nothing about firearms.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Italiano, 3/11/2018 8:53:25 PM     (No. 11568822)

I´m in California. I´d vote for three. Right now it´s ten.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 3/11/2018 9:19:59 PM     (No. 11568840)

Again, give democrats nothing on gun control. Democrats never back off. We know their ultimate goal is a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Bleeding hearts who don´t seek a gun grab, but favor new laws to "do something" about school shootings, are useful idiots.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bogeegolf, 3/11/2018 9:23:54 PM     (No. 11568844)

I would rather vote for something that would actually protect the kids that are basically sitting ducks in our schools. How about abolishing the department of education and use the money saved to provide the security needed. Everything was scanned and searched at the high school hockey tournament I just came back from.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: califedup, 3/11/2018 9:24:17 PM     (No. 11568845)

The gun control bill just passed and signed into law by the spineless republican legislators and the gutless political hack Governor Scott, is just another cowardly caving into the democrat party communists relentless war on our 2nd Amendment rights under the Constitution using the horrific Parkland murders as a reason to achieve their end goal of gun confiscation.

Scott wants to run for the Senate and guess what? He has just alienated most of his voter base by signing this terrible bill into law. I will never, ever vote for Scott for any office.

By the way President Trump better tread very, very carefully with all his talk of imposing gun controls at the federal level. This is one issue where his base will not give him a pass.

Why are innocent, law abiding citizens, who have done nothing wrong being treated like criminals because the government in Broward County is totally responsible for not preventing the Parkland murders?

Why vote republican? They betray us over and over again.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Cor-Vet, 3/11/2018 9:49:11 PM     (No. 11568861)

I´ve a CCW, and hope I never have to use my carry weapon. I don´t see any use for ´bump-stocks´, as OP posted. I just feel that with the liberal democrats, if you give them one inch, they´ll ask for the mile, so I vote no on everything. And I´m really getting tired of that Soros/ CNN student shill, Hogg and his constant reminder of his 17 fellow ´friends´ and classmates that can´t help change the world now. The little putz has no life experiences to fall back on. If he´d been in ´Nam, Iran or Afghanistan, maybe he´d have some credibility!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: harleynyc, 3/11/2018 9:53:54 PM     (No. 11568864)

Too many trigger happy idiots out there. Background/Sanity Evaluation and an 8 hour safety course.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: fayebeck, 3/11/2018 9:55:57 PM     (No. 11568868)

I would vote against any INFRINGEMENT to owning or purchasing a gun.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: 1976Ag, 3/11/2018 10:16:52 PM     (No. 11568880)

"shall not be infringed".

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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/11/2018 10:17:44 PM     (No. 11568884)

As others have stated, there is already a 3 day wait for those without a CWP, and I´m not giving up mine. I´ve liked Scott, but he´ll have to walk this back before his senate run.
I hope he´s primaried.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Justavoter, 3/11/2018 10:53:46 PM     (No. 11568896)

How about we write a law that states if any government official fails to properly follow up on any warnings that someone could do harm to himself or others can be held both civilly and criminally liable.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dixonnh, 3/11/2018 11:00:12 PM     (No. 11568900)

Not constitutional. Cannot limit the sale to those under 21. Why would anyone want to limit the number of shots to 10 or 3? Now who will be in charge of the criminals on the streets to make sure their guns only fire no more than 3 or 10 rounds? Don´t punish the law abiding citizen that has the right to bear arms. Enforce the laws on the books...NO new laws.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ginadee, 3/11/2018 11:12:02 PM     (No. 11568906)

The 2nd amendment stands. That is part of our constitution. If you start playing around with it, then what about other parts? Leave it alone.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 3/11/2018 11:14:58 PM     (No. 11568908)

And any of these would change what, beside making a bunch of legislative blowhards feel unjustifiably good about themselves?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: FLCracker, 3/11/2018 11:16:19 PM     (No. 11568910)

I think 21 ought to be the age of majority, consent, drinking, voting, enlistment without parents´ permission, consentual sex, marriage, etc.

In other words, it should be 21 on everything.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: Nodak, 3/11/2018 11:58:29 PM     (No. 11568927)

A while back, I visited a USAF base. In the visitor center where I stopped first were some Military Police, carrying what I believe to be loaded M16s. These are fully automatic, military issue firearms being carried by Airmen, some of whom looked like, and most likely were, 18-19 years old. So the Air Force can issue them a fully automatic M16, but they would not be allowed to purchase a semi-automatic AR15? How blithering stupid is that? By the way, I felt perfectly safe in the presence of these heavily armed young men and women.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: dvc, 3/11/2018 11:59:40 PM     (No. 11568929)

#10, clearly deeply infected with NYC disease.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/12/2018 12:15:44 AM     (No. 11568939)

You can take away every gun in the US, but a mentally unstable person will find a way to hurt you. Why aren´t we talking about mental illness and why are the shooters young males within a certain age bracket and all on psychotropics? Did they all take the same drug? Why not young women? Blacks are less likely to get therapy and drug treatment, so I rule them out.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ladydawgfan, 3/12/2018 12:16:05 AM     (No. 11568940)

Is "No" the only choice or can we vote "H3LL, no!!!"???

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dvc, 3/12/2018 12:37:46 AM     (No. 11568948)

We have lost far, far too much of our gun rights.

Not one more inch!

". . . shall not be infringed."

We are way past infringed, need to unwind most of the 20,000+ gun laws in place, not add any more infringements.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: NYbob, 3/12/2018 1:44:33 AM     (No. 11568965)

Wow, I guess the site had a vote and the new age to fight and maybe die for the United States of America is going to be 21. Fascinating.

I really dislike pandering lawyers turned politicians and a lying media who runs after every shallow, trending, emotional issue. Too much to ask of everyone to maybe read a bit, learn the numbers, compare a little history. No we all run around screaming stupid, feel good laws that do nothing except make the streets even safer for criminals and lunatics. Nice job everyone.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: pchristopher, 3/12/2018 2:28:35 AM     (No. 11568973)

Ask me how I´d vote on mouthy Sheriffs who falsely accuse others of complicity in order to deflect from their own incompetence..That´s what should be on the ballot.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: strike3, 3/12/2018 5:03:40 AM     (No. 11568983)

Most of the left´s restrictions that they would like to impose do not make sense because their goal is not what they claim it is. All they had to do was ask the honest question of what could be done that would have stopped Cruz and most school shooters. None of these new rules apply to the real cause and somebody who claims to be able to govern a state should know that. The FBI should have paid attention. The doors should have been locked and controlled. The first armed men on the scene should have gone directly to the shooter. Here are three huge failures that have absolutely nothing to do with guns.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: franq, 3/12/2018 6:00:55 AM     (No. 11568998)

If there´s one thing I´ve learned about referendums, it´s that they are subject to the whim of some judge. So in CA, say, it could be pushed back to 10 days just like that...

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Reply 28 - Posted by: lakerman1, 3/12/2018 7:38:48 AM     (No. 11569043)

#14, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot expect police protection from the police.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 3/12/2018 8:00:23 AM     (No. 11569055)

If it makes it on the ballot as a constitutional amendment it will probably pass - Florida has a history of making stupid ideas constitutional.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 3/12/2018 8:10:21 AM     (No. 11569068)

At least it is on a ballot. Usually they just try to shove their gun laws down our throats.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: hershey, 3/12/2018 8:21:02 AM     (No. 11569080)

As Sgt. Schultz would say, ´give them nothing´...we have already ´compromised´ enough:

1934 National Firearms Act
1968 The Gun Control Act
1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act
1993 Brady Handgun Violence Act
1994 Assault Weapons Ban
1995 Gun Free School Zone Act

What good did it do? You cannot legislate morality, and that is the problem.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: SALady, 3/12/2018 11:17:33 AM     (No. 11569305)

Sorry #10, but who will be determining WHO can pass your "Background/Sanity Evaluation", and WHAT constitutes "passing" it?????

No, all it takes for a LIE-beral Gestapo government like Cubafornia to decide that anyone who is a member of the NRA is "not sane" and cannot own weapons.

When the so-called "mental health experts" in this country decided that homosexuality and transsexuality were no longer mental illnesses and were "totally normal", I lost all faith in them to judge anyone´s "sanity"!!!



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Reply 33 - Posted by: Smart11344, 3/12/2018 12:00:05 PM     (No. 11569375)

Tell me, how many 18 year olds can support themselves living on their own. Very few. I´d suggest repealing their right to vote. The majority don´t have a clue.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: JansGraphix, 3/13/2018 11:07:05 AM     (No. 11570602)

Gov Scott would like us to believe he is conservative. Then he caves to the left on this. Glad to hear that the NRA is suing over this idiocy. Scott like McConnell and Ryan and their fellow ´progressive´ travelers are in the wrong party.

They, like the other leftists, use our freedoms against us and to shut us down. I wish they would move to Venezuela or Cuba or Syria or Iran where they would be more ´comfortable´ and leave us the h*ll alone.

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Judicial Watch today released newly obtained internal IRS documents, including material revealing that Sen. John McCain’s former staff director and chief counsel on the Senate Homeland Security Permanent Subcommittee, Henry Kerner, urged top IRS officials, including then-director of exempt organizations Lois Lerner, to “audit so many that it becomes financially ruinous.” Kerner was appointed by President Trump as Special Counsel for the United States Office of Special Counsel. The explosive exchange was contained in notes taken by IRS employees at an April 30, 2013, meeting between Kerner, Lerner, and other high-ranking IRS officials. Just ten days following the meeting, former

Time magazine cover features Trump
staring down a crying migrant child

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Washington Examiner, by Katelyn Caralle    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/21/2018 1:12:03 PM     Post Reply
The latest cover of Time magazine criticizes President Trump´s tough border policy, by showing him looking down at a crying, two-year-old Honduran girl whose mother was detained after crossing the border.The photoshopped image is the latest ding against Trump and his zero tolerance policy, which led to the increased family separation of illegal immigrants. The cover is captioned, "Welcome to America." (Tweet/Video) On Wednesday, Trump signed an executive order aimed at putting an end to the practice of separating families, after calling on Congress, specifically Democrats, several times to change the laws.

Restaurant Manager Where Secretary Nielsen
Was Mobbed ‘Happy About What Happened’

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Daily Caller, by Julia Cohen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/20/2018 11:00:04 PM     Post Reply
The Mexican restaurant where Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was swarmed by protesters Tuesday in Washington, D.C., took no action to quell the protesters or ensure Nielsen’s safety, a manager told The Daily Caller News Foundation on Wednesday.“We are not upset the protesters came here and we are not upset even if it was any of our staffers [who tipped off] the protesters,” the MXDC Cocina Mexicana manager, who refused to give his name, told TheDCNF. “We are happy about what happened.”Police responded to the incident, USA Today reported. The manager also said that, to his knowledge, no

Sony Pictures Condemns Peter Fonda’s ‘Abhorrent’
Tweets But Will Release His New Film Anyway

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Breitbart Big Hollywood, by Warner Todd Huston    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/21/2018 1:04:50 PM     Post Reply
Sony Pictures Classics released a statement shredding actor Peter Fonda for his tweets, one of which called for 12-year-old Barron Trump to be raped — but the company said it would still release Boundaries, a new film co-starring Fonda.“Peter Fonda’s comments are abhorrent, reckless and dangerous, and we condemn them completely,” the film company said in an emailed statement late on Wednesday. However, the company went on to insist that pulling the upcoming Shana Feste-directed Boundaries, or trying to edit Fonda out of the film, would be “unfair” to the those involved. “It is important to note that Mr. Fonda

Melania Trump wears $39 jacket with
´I Really Don´t Care, Do U?´ scrawled
across the back as she boards a plane
to visit immigrant children being held*

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Daily Mail (UK), by Emily Goodin & Charlie Lankston    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/21/2018 2:55:05 PM     Post Reply
Melania Trump made quite the sartorial statement on Thursday when she donned a jacket with the words, ´I REALLY DON´T CARE, DO U?´ written across the back while boarding a plane to visit immigrant children being held at the border in Texas. The 48-year-old first lady was pictured arriving at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland wearing the $39 khaki design from Zara, before boarding her plane to fly to Texas. She removed the offending jacket, which bore the controversial phrase in white graffiti-style writing across the entire back section, before disembarking the plane upon her arrival. (Photos) By the

Vikings Hold First Sports
LGBTQ Summit

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KSTP-TV [Minneapolis St Paul], by Jonathan Rozelle    Original Article
Posted By: voxpopuli- 6/21/2018 5:37:39 PM     Post Reply
The Minnesota Vikings made history on Thursday. Vikings players, coaches and members of the LGBTQ community came together for a first of its kind inclusion summit held by an NFL team. The LGBTQ summit and fundraising event was held at the TCO Performance Center Auditorium in Eagan. It centered around bridging the gap between the LGBTQ community and sports. (snip) Kluwe´s hope is that the NFL and other sports leagues take notice, and it sparks conversations leading to more acceptance of the LGBTQ community in the athletic world.


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