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Jeff Flake to introduce bill to raise
minimum age to purchase assault
rifle to 21 years old

Washington Examiner, by Melissa Quinn

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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/21/2018 2:45:51 PM

Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., is working with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on a new bill that raises the minimum age to buy assault rifles such as an AR-15 to 21 years old, he said Wednesday. “A kid too young buy a handgun should be too young to buy an #AR15. Working with @SenFeinstein on a bipartisan bill that will raise the minimum purchase age for non-military buyers from 18 to 21 - the same age you currently have to be to purchase a handgun,” Flake tweeted. (Tweet) Under federal law, the minimum age to buy a handgun is 21, and the


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Reply 1 - Posted by: dvc, 2/21/2018 2:56:44 PM     (No. 11550928)

I challenge him to define what he wants to control.

Removing the military styling does nothing to change the fact that a semi-automatic rifle can be fired rapidly, even with a wooden stock, no bayonet lug, no flash hider.

Do the "Indy Pace Car" paint, logos, wings, hood scoops and wide tires make a car into a real racing car? No. They are just styling. Same for "semi-auto assault rifles" - they are not assault rifles, just ordinary rifles with military styling features.

This Flake is stupid.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: howvood, 2/21/2018 2:57:21 PM     (No. 11550929)

This is great news! I can now buy an "assault" rifle. I always wanted my own, personal M-16.

I think Jeff Flake meant to say he wanted to raise the age to purchase scary-looking guns.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Judy, 2/21/2018 3:00:42 PM     (No. 11550933)

While you’re at it Flake raise the minimum age to Vote & join the military.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 2/21/2018 3:02:01 PM     (No. 11550935)

Don´t worry, sonny, Grandma will buy you one and put it in your name when you are 21. Like we did with the Corvette.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Judy, 2/21/2018 3:02:39 PM     (No. 11550936)

How stupid, you can fire a gun in the military but you can’t own a gun or drink alcohol.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: JediJerry, 2/21/2018 3:05:08 PM     (No. 11550942)

Mitch and Ryan put him up to it. Romney will step up and endorse it and MCCain and Graham will Co sponsor it. However it will not pass because Democrats don’t want it to pass. They want it to be a campaign issue. No talk of providing grants to states for school districts to implement new school safety and security systems such as armed guards and other options. No way, we can’t do that!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: nimby, 2/21/2018 3:06:46 PM     (No. 11550944)

Then raise the age to enlist in the military and marriage age to 21 Flaky!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 2/21/2018 3:08:16 PM     (No. 11550945)

I completely support this.
Mental illness often doesn’t manifest in sufficiently outward ways until late teens or early 20s.

There is NO downside to this, and our side of the debate should support and get ahead of this curve.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Penney, 2/21/2018 3:14:22 PM     (No. 11550949)

Ergo, will the age to serve in the military also be raised in this flaky bill? s/

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Reply 10 - Posted by: winmag, 2/21/2018 3:16:29 PM     (No. 11550951)

At least the Flakes in congress aren´t trying to ban them. These people are so stupid.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Clinger, 2/21/2018 3:16:52 PM     (No. 11550952)

Well then expect new lines of semi-automatic rifles to come out lacking the scary looking stuff along with the scary stuff upgrade kits sold primarily as 21st birthday gifts. I´m going to trademark SSU-21.

The voting age should be 30. I´ll budge down to 21 for those in the armed forces. Some of the reasons 18 to 20 year olds are perfect for turning into soldiers are the exact reasons they shouldn´t vote.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 2/21/2018 3:24:00 PM     (No. 11550962)

ps: This is not an either/or circumstance… We can and should have armed guards at school and better mental health screening, and peer programs, and an end to the ridiculous Obama-era rules that allow a black and Hispanic kids to get “do-overs” and no criminal record for crimes that white and Asian kids would get a record for (which is why this psycho Cruz slipped through the cracks; his adoptive last name). And we can also have an array other gun training for all kids and productive and other defense of technologies as well. And we can and should have a conversation about the debasement and video violence of our national culture. We should do ALL of this.

And this specific thing is definitely the right thing to do. We don’t let kids rent cars until they’re 25 and 25-year-olds can still be on their parents health insurance. Life comes in stages and the frontal cortex is not developed, particularly in young men, until they’re in their mid 20s. Mental illness and suicidal/homicidal tendencies would more likely have “shown” to authorities by Cruz’ 20s ... and this HORRIBLE atrocity could have neen avoided.

As for enlisting in the military… There are batteries of psychological tests to enlist and mentor support in the military in case someone is having violent thoughts of harming them self or harming others. So the obvious answer is: if you wish to enlist in the military at 18 and go through the training and psychological testing — and pass — you will exempt from the rule anyone else has to be 21 or 23 or 25 to have rifles with such easily changed large magazines and such little recoil.

This is absolutely the right thing to do.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tyshab, 2/21/2018 3:39:55 PM     (No. 11550980)

Well gosh, there must be a bill that can be introduced to fix every human failing...
I am so glad we have government and dogooders to give us controls. Where might we be without them? s/o

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Reply 14 - Posted by: SALady, 2/21/2018 3:48:01 PM     (No. 11550985)

You NEVER pass laws effecting peoples´ Constitutional rights as a result of an emotional event!!!!!!!


When is Flake just going to come out as a LIE-beral Demon-RAT. He isn´t fooling anyone any more!!!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: 4poster, 2/21/2018 3:55:03 PM     (No. 11550990)

Poster #1 is exactly right. And, by the way, the AR in AR-15 does not stand for Assault Rifle. It stands for the name of the company that designed and manufactured the weapon, Armalite.

AR-15’s are not assault rifles. No modern military would ever issue a single shot rifle to their soldiers. Think M-16 or AK47, both can fire full auto.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Davids918, 2/21/2018 4:01:26 PM     (No. 11550993)

Do it!

And, while you´re at it, raise the age to vote to 21 too.

After all, read recently most don´t consider themselves an "adult" until they are 24 anyhow. If that´s the case, then why should those 18, 19 and 20 year-old be voting for tax increases and making adult decisions if they themselves don´t consider themselves an adult?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: plex, 2/21/2018 4:07:31 PM     (No. 11551000)

It will work just about as well as the drinking age. Flake probably never went to college or he would know how well such age limits work.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/21/2018 4:23:16 PM     (No. 11551012)

There is no way that a bill will pass Congress listing just one model of rifle like an AR-15. In order to raise the age to buy such a rifle that the Democrats define as being an "Assault Rifle" because of it resembles in outward appearance true assault rifles used by the military, they will have to raise up the age to buy all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. As the AR-15 rifle and its knockoffs are the most popular rifles in America today, they mechanically function just about like every other modern semi-automatic rifle in America today.

The term "AR-15" is a trade mark of the Colt´s Manufacturing Company that manufactured and sold the original and now improved AR-15 rifle. Today there are probably a hundred knock-offs of the AR-15, that are not called AR-15´s, some that do not even look like the AR-15, that are being manufactured by different firearms manufacturers. So if Congress were to pass a law that only affected the Colt manufactured AR-15 rifle, the only rifle called an AR-15, and not all other firearms that functionally operate similar to the Colt AR-15, the bill Congress passes would probably be challenged as an unconstitutional bill of attainer against the Colt Manufacturing Company. Who actually knows, at this juncture, if the Florida shooter even used an actual AR-15 or some yet unidentified knock off.br>
What the Democrats and some wimpy Republicans like Flake really want is to effectively ban all modern firearms that are being sold in America today. So if they can´t get enough political cover from the Republicans to do that, look for whatever inferior bill they actually propose to contain enough poison pills to keep the bill from being passed by Congress or to keep Trump from signing it, so the Democrats can keep using gun control as an issue on into the future.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Packard Man, 2/21/2018 4:24:11 PM     (No. 11551013)

This will help like "cups" on a dead man!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 2/21/2018 4:40:23 PM     (No. 11551034)

And raise the minimum age for free speech, foruth amendment rights, fifth amanedment rights to 21 as well. It is important that we limited the freeoms that the Constitution specifically said the gooberment can´t limit to advance a police controlled state

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Omen, 2/21/2018 4:41:15 PM     (No. 11551036)

You´re a dead senator walking so stop trying to impress anyone.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 2/21/2018 4:44:34 PM     (No. 11551040)

Flake is a moron.

Many rifles function just like the AR-15 which is NOT an assault weapon. If the AR is blocked people would just buy a different rifle. Then they would want those banned.

Meanwhile, it doesn´t fix the problem because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUN! The AR-15 has been sold for over 50 years. The only reason it pops up in mass shootings is that it is a popular rifle, especially after the ban in 1994 - 2004.

It´s like pointing out that GM or Toyota cars are used most often as robbery getaway cars and wanting to ban them to reduce robberies without noting that these brands are the most sold cars and that robberies have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAR BRAND or the car at all.

Liberals are always looking to get their noses under the tent, looking to eliminate guns completely.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 2/21/2018 4:45:49 PM     (No. 11551043)

So you are willing to let an 18 year old enlist in the military, train him to use a REAL battle weapon (not an AR-15 which is NOT an "assault rifle") accept that he or she may DIE in defense of YOUR comfortable freedom - and he is ONLY a Second Class citizen whose constitutional rights you have chosen to deny him when he is HOME ON LEAVE?

I don´t think so.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 2/21/2018 4:51:05 PM     (No. 11551048)

BTW No. 18, AR-15 is no more a trademark any more, than is Kleenex. Everyone uses it and it denotes a platform and operating system. I assure you it will not be limited to Colt.

By the way, Colt is NOT the original manufacturer, nor did they originate the name. Eugene Stoner designed the firearm which was produced by ArmaLite Industries. And it was the 15th iteration of his design efforts. Hence ARmalite-15. The company was sold in the 60s - several times.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: strike3, 2/21/2018 5:07:53 PM     (No. 11551063)

Flake chose an ideal partner in Dianne (Call Me Senator!) Feinstein. She probably looks at firearms like they were spiders crawling on her arm. Any congress critter who votes for a bill like this is looking at the end of his term as the end of his career.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/21/2018 5:19:56 PM     (No. 11551071)

Poster #24 is right. I met the original designers of the Armalite (M-16) rifle well before it became a military issue "assault" rifle back in 1962 at the Association of the US Army Convention at Washington, DC. At the time the basic issue rifle for the army was the M-14 rifle that could be set up to fire either semi automatically or fully automatic. Most were set up to fire semi automatically for the sake of accuracy and to save ammunition. At the time I believe their company was called Armalite and the rifle was then called the Armalite rifle. They had a display there and were still trying to sell the rifle to the US Army. I believe the problem for Armalite was that they did not have the funds or the manufacturing facilities to mass produce that rifle if the army did order it, Colt did.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: texaspast, 2/21/2018 5:29:42 PM     (No. 11551087)

What is an assault rifle? Those scary looking things with black plastic stocks you see the SWAT teams waving around? A M-1A (M-14 semi-auto copy made by Springfield) with a wooden stock looks like an old-fashioned rifle - but it fires a .308 bullet, a lot more power than your regular AR-type gun in .223, which is the AR´s usual caliber. Heck, you can get an old Remington Woodsmaster, a semi-auto deer rifle from the 1950s that shoots the same .30-06 round that carried the U.S. through WWII, and you can get 10 round magazines for those. MUCH more power than a standard AR-type in .223. Or, if you like the .223 round, you can get a Ruger Mini-14, which is a scaled-down version of the military M-14, which shoots the .223 round, for which you can get a 30 round magazine. Every bit as deadly, just as big a magazine as the AR, but in a nice, old fashioned wooden stock. Of course, you CAN get the black or tan plastic stock in aftermarket, which is lighter, and make it scary-looking if you want. And if you want volume of shots vs. power, you can get the Ruger 10/22, which shoots a .22 LR round, which comes with a standard 10 round mag, but you can find 100 round magazines for those. You can even find the aftermarket stock to make it look scary! So what are you going say they can´t buy? Personally, I´ve got no problem with raising the rifle-buying age, but if you allow them to start limiting, you know they won´t STOP there.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: dvc, 2/21/2018 5:31:01 PM     (No. 11551089)

Thumbs up #23, exactly right.

And thumbs up to the C-141, too. I rode those from Charleston to Rhine-Main, or Madrid a number of times space-A in the early 70s. Got to spend some time in the cockpit chatting with the crews, too. All good folks, good memories of a fine old bird.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 2/21/2018 5:35:29 PM     (No. 11551097)

I use to agree with you #5, but things have changed. The newer generations have become snowflakes with little knowledge of the real world and have a serious lack of maturity for their age. While an 18 to 21 yr old today may have a strong physical presence, they often lack intelligence to handle things that require discipline and common sense.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: K620, 2/21/2018 6:19:35 PM     (No. 11551132)

Just a fairly long-time Lucianner weighing in: I´m a gun owner and a gun advocate and an NRA member, and I really have no problem with prohibiting firearms sales until one is 21. Also get rid of schools as gun-free zones (aka targets). And for the cherry on top, maybe begin to recognize again the importance of Dad in his son´s upbringing.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: franq, 2/21/2018 6:37:20 PM     (No. 11551150)

Oh, that will end school massacres.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: chance_232, 2/21/2018 6:38:31 PM     (No. 11551151)

Your not an adult until age 21 ...... but you can vote..... /S/

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 2/21/2018 7:19:03 PM     (No. 11551175)

Brilliant, Flake. Now that fixes it.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/21/2018 8:15:52 PM     (No. 11551232)

Yeah, let´s raise voter registration and military age to 21 while we´re at it.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/21/2018 8:23:07 PM     (No. 11551240)

... and to think, Lee Harvey Oswald caused a lot of mischief with an old WWII era Italian rifle! And Archduke Ferdinand was killed with a simple pistol. s/o

So much government, yet so little time to tyrannize a people.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Udanja99, 2/21/2018 8:31:31 PM     (No. 11551250)

But he’s fine with 12 year olds getting abortions without parental notification much less consent.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 2/21/2018 9:26:34 PM     (No. 11551293)

Flake is still around and running his mouth? Didn´t he resign????

What IS the matter with Arizona? Flake and McCain are the state´s two senators.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 2/21/2018 9:49:27 PM     (No. 11551312)

On a related note, I see that the amorphous, made-up political term ´assault weapon´ is being abandoned by the grabbers and their "news" outlet mouthpieces. Going ever more flagrantly mendacious, they have apparently decided to label scary-looking semi-autos as outright "assault rifles", a term which actually has a specific meaning which does not include semi-auto only rifles. They don´t care any more, they are just going to call them "assault rifles" and "machine guns" anyway, evidently.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Bighambone, 2/22/2018 2:20:50 AM     (No. 11551476)

Anti gun politicians want to raise the age for a civilian person to be a qualified firearms purchaser to 21 years of age, while a person can enlist in the military at age 17 and be qualified to carry and operate some of the most deadly firearms in the world, including real assault rifles. While some Democrat college professors are now calling for the voting age to be lowered to the age of 16 so that very impressionable and know nothing teenagers who don’t have a clue about how the world turns, and who are being influenced by leftist teachers and popular teen culture can vote. Don’t think everything these days is about securing a political edge, think again!

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Posted By: earlybird- 4/20/2018 11:27:33 AM     Post Reply
The Democratic National Committee filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit Friday against the Russian government, the Trump campaign and the WikiLeaks organization alleging a far-reaching conspiracy to disrupt the 2016 campaign and tilt the election to Donald Trump. The complaint, filed in federal district court in Manhattan, alleges that top Trump campaign officials conspired with the Russian government and its military spy agency to hurt Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and help Trump by hacking the computer networks of the Democratic Party and disseminating stolen material found there. “During the 2016 presidential campaign, Russia launched an all-out assault on our democracy, and it found

Comey, Clinton, McCabe and Lynch
Officially Referred For Criminal Investigation

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Townhall, by Katie Pavlich    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2018 5:12:02 AM     Post Reply
Eleven House Republicans have sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray officially referring Hillary Clinton, fired FBI Director James Comey, fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and former Attorney General Loretta Lynch for criminal investigation. FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, who were caught sending hundreds of anti-Trump text messages during the Clinton investigation, have also been referred for criminal investigation. U.S. Attorney John Huber, who was tapped by Sessions a few weeks ago to investigate the FBI´s handling of the Clinton email probe, was copied on the request. “Because we believe that those

Obamas ´building new swimming
pool´ at their $8.1million mansion in
exclusive Kalorama neighborhood
of Washington DC

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Daily Mail [UK], by Ariel Zilber    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2018 8:45:57 AM     Post Reply
Former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama are building a swimming pool at their home in an exclusive neighborhood of Washington DC. The 44th president and his family purchased the the 8,200 sq ft mansion in the Kalorama area of the capital in 2017 for $8.1million having initially rented the property. Plans are now afoot for a new swimming pool in the grounds, according to TMZ, which says it has seen building permits. The permit application process started in January, the website reports, and there have been a number of reviews about electrics and plumbing in recent months. Last year, it

Melania Trump Hasn´t Been on a
Single Magazine Cover Since
Trump Took Office

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PJ Media, by Faith Moore    Original Article
Posted By: Maryland_Patriot- 4/19/2018 3:58:54 PM     Post Reply
“If the Trumps were Democrats,” conservative actor James Woods tweeted earlier this month, “Melania would be on every cover of every chic women’s magazine in the world every month.” Woods may be exaggerating a little bit — only Oprah can put herself on the cover of a magazine every month, and it’s her own magazine — but he does make an interesting point. First Lady Melania Trump has not graced the cover of a single magazine in the United States since her husband took office over a year ago. Michelle Obama, on the other hand, was featured on at least thirty

Roger Stone steps up attacks on
Barbara Bush:´She is descending
into hell right now

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Washington Examiner, by Naomi Lim    Original Article
Posted By: danvillebill- 4/19/2018 7:29:50 PM     Post Reply
Trump ally Roger Stone has doubled down on his criticism of Barbara Bush after calling the former first lady "a nasty drunk" following news she had died Tuesday at the age of 92. "She is descending into hell right now. She´s not going to heaven. She was a bad person," Stone told controversial website InfoWars.com Wednesday. Stone´s comments come after he posted an initial statement on Instagram where he tore into the former first lady following her death.

Hillary Clinton on Election Night: ‘They
Were Never Going to Let
Me Be President’

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Daily Beast, by Gideon Resnick    Original Article
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“No one in modern politics, male or female, has had to withstand more indignities, setbacks and cynicism. She developed protective armor that made the real Hillary Clinton an enigma. But if she was guarded about her feelings and opinions, she believed it was in careful pursuit of a dream for generations of Americans: the election of the country’s first woman president.” That would have been the nut graf of The New York Times story about Hillary Clinton’s historic victory that would have run under the headline “Madam President” spread across six front-page columns, according to reporter Amy Chozick’s new book,

The leaked Comey memos just
blew up in Trump’s face

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Washington Post, by Greg Sargent    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 4/20/2018 11:35:13 AM     Post Reply
The past 12 hours brought two very big revelations involving former FBI director James B. Comey, President Trump and the Russia investigation, and they must be looked at side by side to fully grasp their collective importance. Comey’s memos of his conversations with Trump have leaked in full. This came after Republicans threatened to subpoena them from Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, leading him to release them to Congress. Comey confirmed to Rachel Maddow that before getting fired, he ordered an internal investigation into whether Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani had been privately tipped off by people in the FBI two weeks

Sessions told White House that Rosenstein’s
firing could prompt his departure, too

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Washington Post, by Sari Horwitz*    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/20/2018 8:00:53 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Jeff Sessions recently told the White House he might have to leave his job if President Trump fired his deputy, Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the exchange. Sessions made his position known in a phone call to White House counsel Donald McGahn last weekend, as Trump’s fury at Rosenstein peaked after the deputy attorney general approved the FBI’s raid April 9 on the president’s personal attorney Michael Cohen. Sessions’s message to the White House, which has not previously been reported, underscores the political firestorm

Parkland survivors David Hogg and
Lauren Hogg to publish book #NeverAgain

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Entertainment Weekly, by David Canfield    Original Article
Posted By: M2- 4/19/2018 8:09:49 AM     Post Reply
David Hogg and Lauren Hogg, students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and survivors of February’s deadly mass shooting in Parkland, Florida have signed a deal with Random House for a book to be published in June, EW has confirmed. The siblings have been leaders in the gun control movement that took shape among students, in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting. Their book, #NeverAgain, is described as “a statement of generational purpose, and a moving portrait of the birth of a new movement.” The book will explore their efforts taking on some of the most powerful forces in Washington

Giuliani says he is joining
Trump’s legal team to ‘negotiate
an end’ to Mueller probe

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Washington Post, by Robert Costa & Josh Dawsey    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/19/2018 5:15:06 PM     Post Reply
Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a combative former prosecutor and longtime ally of President Trump, told The Washington Post on Thursday that he has joined the president’s legal team dealing with the ongoing special counsel probe. “I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview. Giuliani, who joins a legal team that has struggled to recruit new members to its ranks, said he has been speaking with Trump for weeks

NY sets aside $10M for legal
defense of ICE-targeted immigrants

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WPIX-TV [New York, NY], by Aliza Chasan    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/19/2018 6:30:57 PM     Post Reply
New York set aside $10 million for the legal defense of immigrants targeted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement just days after ICE announced the arrest of hundreds of people in the state. The Liberty Defense Project will ensure legal rights are being represented, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. It was launched last year, but it needs the additional funds in light of what state officials described as “overly aggressive tactics” from ICE. “ICE’s hyper-aggressive raids on hardworking New Yorkers are immoral and un-New York, and we stand more determined than ever to support the rights of all immigrants in the Empire State

Chelsea Clinton cracked open Veuve
Clicquot champagne just an HOUR after
polls closed because she was so sure
of victory for campaign where she*

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Daily Mail [UK], by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/20/2018 7:28:48 PM     Post Reply
Hillary Clinton´s daughter Chelsea popped the champagne after the polls closed – and before her mom´s stunning loss to Donald Trump, according to a new book. ´Chasing Hillary,´ by New York Times reporter Amy Chozick, who covered both of Clinton´s presidential campaigns, cites anonymous sources to say it was even French bubbly: Veuve Clicquot. ´Things were already looking bad when, several people told me, Chelsea Clinton popped the Champagne,´ Chozick writes, according to a preview in the New York Times. ´It was just after 9 p.m. on election night and she was having her hair and makeup done in the family’s suite

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