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Russians indicted in special counsel´s probe
for operations allegedly
supporting Donald Trump in election

CNBC, by Mike Calia

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Posted By:Cliff, 2/16/2018 12:54:11 PM

The special counsel´s office said Friday that a federal grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.The indictment says that the defendants allegedly, by early to mid 2016, were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: skofla, 2/16/2018 12:59:52 PM     (No. 11545815)



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Reply 2 - Posted by: skofla, 2/16/2018 1:00:24 PM     (No. 11545816)

So, basically doing what I did - supported Trump and disparaged Clinton.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: hisself, 2/16/2018 1:07:21 PM     (No. 11545821)


Why would the Russians want Trump? Putin could buy anything he wanted from Hillary.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: hisself, 2/16/2018 1:08:10 PM     (No. 11545822)

So the Russians were doing what Nobama and Co did in Israel!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 2/16/2018 1:09:37 PM     (No. 11545824)

FTA: "An announcement from Mueller´s office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States.

Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud.

Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft."

Uh, where is the indictment for conspiracy charges against Christohpher Steele and the rest of the FBI and Democrat hacks who truly did meddle in the election? This is just laughable and shocking.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: msjena, 2/16/2018 1:10:24 PM     (No. 11545825)

A line buried in the complaint says the Russians also supported Sanders. And after the election, they organized anti-Trump rallies. Good luck on arresting any of these people.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: greggojo, 2/16/2018 1:11:28 PM     (No. 11545827)

The Russians do this every election in countries all over the world. So what? And the Russians were not supporting Mr. Trump, they were damaging the future president of the United States, Hillary Clinton. Every poll, every pundit was sure she would win. And Mr. Putin wanted her to win because she would keep the choke hold on American energy production (energy is the foundation of the Russian economy) and Trump would promote American energy production, which he has done, bless his heart. Anyway, whatever this group of Russians were doing was just typical Russian activity, and had nothing to do with promoting Mr. Trump. Mueller is saving face here. And he is truly a horse´s a..

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pros7767, 2/16/2018 1:21:02 PM     (No. 11545842)

Mueller is just trying to establish some relevance for this witch hint, and the millions of dollars being spent.

If they really want to legitimize their investigation, indict Hillary, Bill, Obama, Rice, Comey, the Ohr´s, Page and Strozk as a start.

Until then, this is all smoke and mirrors.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 2/16/2018 1:21:03 PM     (No. 11545843)

How many thousands of billable hours from high priced attorneys did it take to come up with this sack of rubbish?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 2/16/2018 1:21:43 PM     (No. 11545845)

I´m so sorry for second post, but the more I think about this the madder I get. All those filthy criminals like Christopher Steele, Comey, McCabe, Strozk, Ohr, et al disparaged Donald Trump and supported Clinton in the election.. This is just so shocking that I can´t believe Mueller really did this. All this does is take the focus away from the ACTUAL crimes committed by the Democrats and brings it back to the Trump campaign.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/16/2018 1:23:55 PM     (No. 11545846)

Mueller: "Round up the usual suspects."

This is hilarious, a farce.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: judy, 2/16/2018 1:28:01 PM     (No. 11545851)

I never received any robo calls, mailings or emails from Russia. What a joke this will be interesting to see how they prove this.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: judy, 2/16/2018 1:31:30 PM     (No. 11545852)

Rosenstein on TV now, what a joke.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Safari Man, 2/16/2018 1:31:43 PM     (No. 11545855)

Is any of that really illegal? Didn’t Obama meddle in the Brexit campaign?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: konocti95, 2/16/2018 1:31:46 PM     (No. 11545856)

My Goodness!!! Can indictments for George Soros be far behind?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Th-Gr-Sil-Majority, 2/16/2018 1:32:12 PM     (No. 11545857)

...from the article it sounds as if the neferous actions began in May of 2014 long before Trump announced though Hillary could have been presumed...

...in other words, the candidates that were to come was not important. The acts were simply to disrupt...

...big surprise...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: volksford, 2/16/2018 1:34:11 PM     (No. 11545858)

For several days now Shifty Schiff has been beating the Russian bots story to death. So much for sealed indictments ..Mueller leaks (too much of a coincidence.)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Jerseyden, 2/16/2018 1:34:30 PM     (No. 11545859)

According to what I heard Rosenberg say that this started in 2014 before Trump ever got in the race.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: lindamay, 2/16/2018 1:37:17 PM     (No. 11545862)

Muller, in his failed attempt to take Trump out with a direct hit, is now coming in through the back door. He´s hoping to get one of those guys to squeal, "Trump made me, paid me to do it!" Someone, please stop this mad man from continuing his absurd investigation.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/16/2018 1:37:46 PM     (No. 11545863)

Clever, Boy! Indict people you can never arrest, or interview or put under oath. Awesome escape, there Muller. My hat is off to you. Now can you please wrap it up and go on with what useless life you have left. Well done. You deserve a medal.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: scottc, 2/16/2018 1:38:15 PM     (No. 11545865)

"Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft.".....Illegal aliens do this everyday. Mueller is a fraud.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Safari Man, 2/16/2018 1:38:24 PM     (No. 11545866)

What about the Mexican Nationals (aka Dreamers) who meddled by protesting Trump openly? I think about 1 million indictments are in order for that.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: judy, 2/16/2018 1:38:36 PM     (No. 11545867)

Katherine Hertige reported Russia was trying to harm both candidates according the JD spokesman.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Clinger, 2/16/2018 1:39:53 PM     (No. 11545868)

Russians were screwing with our election therefore it had to be in favor of Trump? What the heck is this garbage. This is just more fuel to carry on until they find anything on Trumpskyvisch.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: judy, 2/16/2018 1:41:37 PM     (No. 11545869)

CNBC is fake news , this was happening long before Trump.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 2/16/2018 1:43:08 PM     (No. 11545871)

This is serious stuff!

Two of the Russkies were seen jaywalking across Brighton 7th Street in Brooklyn - - and another was photographed sticking chewing gum under a bench on the Brighton Beach boardwalk.

Trump is certain to be impeached now.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: jhpeters2, 2/16/2018 1:44:43 PM     (No. 11545872)

The only thing that will happen now is we will have to bob and weave to avoid the froth from the corners of the mouths of rabid lefties. But since this is predictable I know I won´t be infected by the virus

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Reply 28 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/16/2018 1:46:10 PM     (No. 11545875)

What a joke! We have to have a special prosecutor to indict Russians for using the internet. Good Grief! You would think that could be handled by an ordinary attorney at the DOJ. And what are they indicted for? Wire fraud, identity theft. Well, at least the DOJ, out of millions of cases of identity theft, finally has indicted a couple of persons.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Bighambone, 2/16/2018 1:47:07 PM     (No. 11545877)

Since it appears that all those indicted Russians and the entities named are located in Russia they might as well have indicted the Russian Government, as good luck ever getting those Russians extradicted to the USA for trial.

Until trials are held and the Russians are found guilty in US courts, Mueller’s indictments are just unproven allegations. You know what they say about indictments, a good prosecutor can indict a “ham sandwich” and with the politically based charges alleged, there is no doubt of that in liberal Democrat run Washington, DC. There is no indication spelled out in the indictment that any Trump Campaign people knowingly “colluded” with any of those Russians before or after the election. As long as the Internet is functioning the Russians and other foreign governments are going to be out there trying to influence US elections in ways that they believe will be to their countries benefit and that is only going to get worse. There is no indication in the indictment indicating the whatever the Russians did changed any votes. This indictment put together by Democrat lawyers on Mueller’s staff will just further allow the Hillary crew and the Democrats to claim without any credible evidence that the Russians stole the election from Hillary Clinton.

If Mueller were to competently investigate Mexico’s meddling in the election they would find that Mexico and their agents in the US Spanish language news media had a much more profound effect on the election by encouraging a big number of Mexican citizens, both illegally and legally in the USA, to vote for Hillary Clinton. But don’t worry as neither Mueller or the Democrats would ever investigate those facts.



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Reply 30 - Posted by: Muguy, 2/16/2018 1:50:30 PM     (No. 11545882)

The voters voted AGAINST Hitlery--

There are NO do overs!

The election results STILL STAND, SHE LOST.

When is Muller going to turn his attention to the corruption HERE in this country in the DOJ, IRS, and FBI to disrupt the election?



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Reply 31 - Posted by: TLCary, 2/16/2018 1:51:03 PM     (No. 11545884)

Didn´t this all start with a foreigner named Steel making disparaging remarks about Trump?

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Reply 32 - Posted by: dvc, 2/16/2018 1:52:32 PM     (No. 11545887)

The ULTIMATE CRIME, saying bad things about Hellary!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Safari Man, 2/16/2018 1:53:18 PM     (No. 11545888)

#29 Obama colluded with the Mexicans by telling them that, as long as they were in our country, they could vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfgEvgVC6Qs


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Reply 34 - Posted by: chicodon, 2/16/2018 1:53:32 PM     (No. 11545890)

CNBC = Fake News

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Reply 35 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/16/2018 1:58:24 PM     (No. 11545898)

The day the (Russian) music died!
(this called for all caps, but I´m not allowed to do that.)

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Reply 36 - Posted by: horacer, 2/16/2018 1:58:49 PM     (No. 11545899)

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the [Russians´] conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election." Rod Rosenstein

This is a diversion for the press to run with.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: grounded, 2/16/2018 2:15:22 PM     (No. 11545913)

This is even more pathetic than the fraud that Fitzpatrick executed against Scooter Libby. How in the hell do theses Russkies get prosecuted? In Absentia? Like Vlad the Putin will extradite this scurrilous crew of murderous miscreants to the USA any time soon. Can you imagine the poor judge trying to keep a straight face whilst Mueller´s band of Merrie Men (and Women) parade all this crapola through his courtroom. Who provided the Mueller team with the identities of all the wascally Wussians involved? Christopher Steele?

And if the Russkies were pulling off these types of shenanigans, you can bet your ass that the ChiComs and the Norks and the Iranians were probably undertaking similar stunts. When are those indictments coming down?

But then again the operative term here is "Russians" so automatically the TDS crowd at CNN and the the rest of the enemedia will posit as fact that Trump and his associates are co-conspirators. The prosecutors just haven´t found the link yet.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 2/16/2018 2:21:28 PM     (No. 11545919)

So when will Vincente Fox be indicted for disparaging Trump and encouraging Mexicans to vote for Hillzabub?

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Caveman, 2/16/2018 2:24:20 PM     (No. 11545924)

They should all turn themselves in, just to watch the fun in court.
This is just like a dog chasing a car.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Quiet Observer, 2/16/2018 2:42:59 PM     (No. 11545946)

Sounds like Mueller was able to put together a grand jury of 100% Hillary supporters, who were willing to indict anyone who had dared to disparage Queen Hillary prior to her royal coronation. Then he brought in front of them a bunch of Russian hackers/identity thieves with loose ties to an American who was active in criminal activities on the dark web and accused them all of helping Trump and disparaging Hillary... and voila a bunch of bogus indictments.

It would be interesting to find out what Mueller told the grand jury was their motive for supporting Trump - a law and order type of candidate - over Hillary - who is a key player in a huge international criminal enterprise that took $125 million in bribes to help Russia obtain control of 20% of America´s uranium supplies.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Cor-Vet, 2/16/2018 2:47:45 PM     (No. 11545950)

If identity theft is illegal, an indictment of the former denizen of the White House, having a SS number from a State he was never in, is in order. Hop to it Mueller.
p.s. Hillary is a crooked old hag. So did I just break the law by ´disparaging´ her highness?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: tip35c, 2/16/2018 2:55:56 PM     (No. 11545958)

Good to know the U.S. can finally compete seriously with other countries, if only through clumsy, inept, un-self-aware government incompetence.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: hoopsfan, 2/16/2018 3:45:53 PM     (No. 11545995)

Quite a fishing expedition to scoop up some Russian guppies.



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Reply 44 - Posted by: KTWO, 2/16/2018 4:02:24 PM     (No. 11546015)

We will learn more. But for now it seems as if their ´crimes´ are completely disconnected from the Clinton and Trump organizations.

MSM will do all it dares to say exactly the opposite. They will insert ´Trump´ into every story. And repeat old allegations even if they have nothing to do with these indictments


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Reply 45 - Posted by: fayebeck, 2/16/2018 4:51:19 PM     (No. 11546053)

Hell´s Bells even the damned Yankees went to Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and interfered in their elections.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 2/16/2018 4:55:39 PM     (No. 11546058)

Ham sandwich...meet Robert Mueller...the toughest darn pitbull prosecutor in the business.

You guys never had a chance.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: joew9, 2/16/2018 4:59:17 PM     (No. 11546063)

He said the Russians supported Trump and opposed him at the same time.
The MSM dropped that last part and only has the part about supporting Trump.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: dvc, 2/16/2018 5:00:25 PM     (No. 11546065)

Slipping this to their most reliable lefty Enemedia buddies first, of course, to spin it against Trump as much as possible.

He has NOTHING. This is a hand full of air.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 2/16/2018 5:52:04 PM     (No. 11546106)

I can only hope that this clears the way for the Uranium One investigation to start.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/16/2018 7:00:25 PM     (No. 11546168)

SO freekin WHAT! Anyone with a brain would have done that!... so now it´s a crime?

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Judy, 2/17/2018 12:34:19 AM     (No. 11546449)

How does the JD tell the difference between Russia & Sorus?

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Bohallx, 2/17/2018 9:14:46 PM     (No. 11547349)

The indictment didn´t accuse any of the Russians of interfering in our elections.

In fact, it seems designed to make sure that Steele and his associates would not later on find themselves accused of that (using the Russian cases as a precedent).

Mueller imagines we will give up and bow to his superior wisdom, and quit planning and plotting to remove this fraud from a gub´mnt job and stick him in prison where he belongs.

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1 million Californians will owe $12 billion
more next year

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Sacramento Bee, by ADAM ASHTON    Original Article
Posted By: Jethro bo- 4/18/2018 2:10:11 PM     Post Reply
President Donald Trump’s tax cuts will be anything but for about 1 million California taxpayers who will owe Uncle Sam more money a year from now. They’re the Californians who will lose a collective $12 billion because the new law caps a deduction they have been able to take for paying their state and local taxes, according to a new analysis by the Franchise Tax Board.

Eating A Cat Could Send You To
Prison Under Proposed Law

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Daily Caller, by Thomas Phippen    Original Article
Posted By: konocti95- 4/18/2018 6:51:38 PM     Post Reply
Congress may ban the slaughter of cats and dogs to sell as meat or for human consumption and punish offenses with a year in prison and a $2,500 fine. The House Committee on Agriculture approved by voice vote an amendment to the farm bill Wednesday that would make all sales of domesticated canines and felines illegal, Politico reported. “Adopting this policy signals that the United States will not tolerate the disturbing practice in our country,” California Republican Rep. Jeff Denham said in a statement as he introduced the amendment. Some believed the ban unnecessary, as eating dogs and cats is rare in the


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