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Why does replacing food stamps
with food so anger liberals?

American Thinker, by Ed Straker

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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/13/2018 8:41:43 AM

President Trump has proposed replacing some food stamp grants with actual food. This has curiously enraged liberals, who you would think would be delighted to see "hungry" people getting food.The Trump administration is proposing a major shake-up in one of the country´s most important "safety net" programs, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as food stamps. Under the proposal, most SNAP recipients would lose much of their ability to choose the food they buy with their SNAP benefits.But if you like your supermarket, you can keep your supermarket, right? Under the proposal, which was announced Monday, low-income Americans who receive

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Buckeye11, 2/13/2018 8:52:16 AM     (No. 11542147)

Can´t buy drugs with food !

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Achilles, 2/13/2018 8:54:28 AM     (No. 11542150)

They are mad because they are not using SNAP money for food. They want money, not food.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Mushroom, 2/13/2018 8:58:49 AM     (No. 11542154)

I seem to recall in my youth some kind of commodity program. It was quite useful and provided a lot of GI families with needed food.
(Remember, pay was very pathetic for GIs during the Vietnam war.)

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ivehadit, 2/13/2018 9:03:08 AM     (No. 11542157)

The children will finally be fed.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/13/2018 9:04:42 AM     (No. 11542160)

Many years ago, when my kids were little, we were struggling pretty hard to put food on the table. We were eligible for assistance, but, i wouldn´t take it for being too proud and my wife gave me some angst for it. But, working two jobs and doing weekend fixes and help for folks got us through. But, right in front of our house where we lived at that time, the monthly "Commodities Truck" would pull up. People with welfare cards would line up at the back and the driver and his assistant would roll up the back door and out would come hams, and sides of bacon, and wheels of cheese and powdered milk in 5 gallon buckets and sugar by the ten pound sack and four in 25 pound sacks and giant tubs of butter (the real stuff). Each person would get so much they had to stack it on the sidewalk in front of our house. All we could do is look on in amazement. Almost all the people collecting the goodies were mexicans. A while alter, I had come into some money for a pretty good home repair I had done and we went out to eat at a restaurant, and sure enough, there in the trash bin as we drove up were empty buckets of the commodities had been given out. believe me, no family could eat all the food the government was throwing out the back of that truck, so, naturally, they would sell it- and a lot of it ended up in the hands of restaurant owners and pig farmers.

- there is no way to give folks free stuff without corruption taking a chunk of it.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: southernboy, 2/13/2018 9:10:15 AM     (No. 11542168)

I agree. I watch people buying grocery carts full of fresh chicken, hamburger, Cokes and Mountain Dew by the case. They can’t possibly have freezer storage for all these items. I strongly suspect they are supplying “under-the counter” grocery stores out of their house.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: doublesharp, 2/13/2018 9:22:18 AM     (No. 11542180)

SNAP also amounts to welfare for grocery stores.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: valinva, 2/13/2018 9:32:32 AM     (No. 11542191)

Funny that liberals have no problem with food banks providing boxes of food.
I have long suspected that EBT card money is being used for cigarettes and beer through the selling of food. then they go to the food bank and get their food. I volunteered at a monthly food distribution event 1 time. Hundreds of people show up in cars better than mine. They pull out lawn chairs and queue up waiting for the stuff to be available. They drink coffee and smoke cigarettes and all know each other. Then they come through with shopping carts provided by the organization giving out the food. They go through the line and are very choosy about what they want. Will never do it again.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: PAdiva, 2/13/2018 9:33:46 AM     (No. 11542194)

Limit the types of food SNAP cards can be used for- no soda, no candy, no snack-chips.
All approved food must be nutritionally dense.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hotrod, 2/13/2018 9:34:55 AM     (No. 11542196)

Liberals are really weird people. They always seem to be on the wrong side of things. Must be defective wiring in their brains.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: rbruce20, 2/13/2018 9:38:14 AM     (No. 11542200)

Pres. Trump is interrupting the entire Bodega money exchange system in low-income neighborhoods. Will force many corner stores to charge competitive prices for goods that actually exist.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: janjan, 2/13/2018 9:44:32 AM     (No. 11542205)

When they used to give out actual ´stamps´ in Battle Creek, MI that you had to show up at Social Services to get, there was a bar conveniently right across the street. You could go there on the 1st of the month and buy all the food stamps you wanted for 50 cents on the dollar. That is what I think of the food stamp program.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ribald1, 2/13/2018 9:55:10 AM     (No. 11542216)

The federal government has no business doing charity.
The constitution doesn´t allow it in the first place.
This is why it is important to resist the left when they change the meaning of words. Calling charity ´welfare´ tricked people into thinking it was a legitimate thing for government to do when it is not.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: strike3, 2/13/2018 10:06:27 AM     (No. 11542232)

#9, if they followed your guidelines their carts would be empty. Well, except for donuts and cookies and twinkies.

My wife remembers an incident almost twenty years ago where the cashier would not allow a woman to use food stamps to buy gourmet dog food. The woman said, "Well, I´ll just take these back and buy my dog steaks, and she did.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: belwhatter, 2/13/2018 10:20:03 AM     (No. 11542252)

If only it was food for the really needy, but emotional hearts long ago overruled sensible heads hence the exposed corrupting of the food stamp program. When volunteering at tlhe food bank a few years ago, hardly any of the ´clients´ had the first idea how to cook from scratch, which anyone knows is the most economic way to feed a family. Basic how to recipes were routinely attached to rice, beans and pasta, the volunteers prepared the bags with ingredients for those meals, there was no
option. Fresh vegetables posed the ´clients´ a rThere is a good trend at some area food banks in acquiring eal problem, whether recognizing them or how to use them.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: belwhatter, 2/13/2018 10:24:29 AM     (No. 11542263)

apologies, last paragraph went haywnire, please delete There is a good trend etc. from the vegetable sentence.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Jerseyden, 2/13/2018 10:27:52 AM     (No. 11542264)

For 8 yrs it was OK for Michele Obama to say what school children could eat. So why complain when Trump is just expanding the program. I thought that was what Dems liked “telling people how to run their lives”.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 2/13/2018 10:52:15 AM     (No. 11542291)

Poster #14, some years ago, I was behind a woman who was arguing with the cashier about the brown eggs she wanted to buy with food stamps. I guess, they weren´t on the list of ´approved´ foods. I had to bite my tongue to tell her there was absolutely no difference between brown or white eggs, except the breed of chicken that laid them. (we used to have chickens that laid blue eggs, no kidding)

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Clinger, 2/13/2018 11:05:04 AM     (No. 11542302)

Control over people is achieved by disconnecting their behavior from their condition in life. Don´t want to work or do the things that prepare you to be self sufficient, no problem you get to live in the same conditions as those who pay for you.

Believing that your neighbor owes you that is undignified. Walking into a soup kitchen because you are hungry, your children are hungry, is not the least bit undignified. Volunteering to help cook serve or clean in that kitchen is down right noble.

It´s upside down and all about the control required to create the next communist experiment resulting human disaster. As the eminent philosopher Bullwinkle said to one Rocket J Squirrel, "this time for sure."



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Reply 20 - Posted by: Dirtyjersey, 2/13/2018 11:11:07 AM     (No. 11542309)

Here’s how it works:
1) Use fake ids to get snap cards
2) Sell the cards for 50% of face value to bodega owners
3) Bodega owners process the cards, reducing their “official” inventory
4) Bodega owners sell the “off the books” goods for cash, bypassing the register

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Reply 21 - Posted by: dbdiva, 2/13/2018 11:23:46 AM     (No. 11542320)

I haven´t read the piece yet but I find the headline amusing. My question is what DOESN´T anger liberals? They all seem to ´worship´ at Our Lady of the Perpetually Pi$$ed. I can´t imagine what it would be like to live life day after day month after month year after year in anger mode. I´m tired just thinking about it. Life is too short.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bighambone, 2/13/2018 11:25:17 AM     (No. 11542321)

They would not be able to continue to defraud the SNAP program by misusing the SNAP cards if they were handed a box of food.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared, 2/13/2018 11:39:38 AM     (No. 11542335)

Everyone on this forum knows how EBT cards are used. You can´t use food as a trade on drugs, booze and lottery tickets.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/13/2018 12:21:10 PM     (No. 11542377)

Anything bad for liberals is good for America.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: rochow, 2/13/2018 12:52:05 PM     (No. 11542410)

#1 is spot on.
Seen in my supermarket in NYC. A woman from Pakistan/India buying in the depth of winter the most expensive grapes, ice cream etc....
She was paying with ´government´ money. Outside around the corner I witnessed as she was getting into her maroon colored Rolls Royce with PA license plates!!!!

Our veterans do not live like that!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Cor-Vet, 2/13/2018 1:52:01 PM     (No. 11542462)

Just to ad to #9´s post, no pre-cooked/ prepared foods. If your not working, you have time to prepare your own meals!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mamafrog, 2/13/2018 4:46:27 PM     (No. 11542630)

I really don´t have a problem with food stamps, most of the people who get them use them appropriately. But I see no reason why the types of foods you can buy with them cannot be limited. As a poster above said, SNAP is a welfare program for stores that sell groceries.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: schnapps, 2/13/2018 5:14:03 PM     (No. 11542665)

Replacing food stamps with food also upsets massage parlors and casinos.
Go figure

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Reply 29 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 2/13/2018 5:30:58 PM     (No. 11542694)

Liberals want their socialist programs to be easily defrauded by criminals & illegal aliens. No liberal has ever asked about the existence of fraud in federal programs. Just like Vote Fraud - the liberal response is always that it does not exist. Nor do liberals ever allow any inquiry into the usefulness or effectiveness of their socialist programs. The point is to spend Other People´s Money, not to accomplish anything with it.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 2/13/2018 5:42:25 PM     (No. 11542711)

Another benefit of the food program years ago was that the government either bought the cheese from the farmers or someone made it for the government to give away to the welfare people. I remember reading about storage areas in mountains (??) where all the cheese was stored until it was given away. A long, long time ago. And you know how farmers like those government $$´s too.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/14/2018 1:23:16 AM     (No. 11543140)

First, let me say no one should be able to buy a wedding cake with an EBT card and it happens. I am out in my community all the time and the discrimination against whites and elderly white people with free food distribution is disgusting. Second Harvest delivers locally to the ghetto. Blacks are preregistered and get the best boxes of food out the door first and claim seven people live with seniors. They do not want white elderly low income people to show up and if they do, they get next to nothing and sometimes rotten fruit. Blacks will sell the food and they are no different when they become seniors.

If they go to this system, guess who gets boxes of food? Many older people do not drive to go to pick food up nor do they qualify for Meals on Wheels. Someone was told they could get Meals on Wheels but it would cost $4 a day.
Sick of the expectations that only minorities deserve "free"

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Spy, as Trump Claims

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New York Times, by Adam Goldman*    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 5/19/2018 9:19:45 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes” even before the bureau had any inkling of the “phony Russia hoax.” In fact, F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign. The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the

Top Intel Dem warns Republicans:
Don´t try to out FBI source

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Max Greenwood    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/18/2018 9:57:26 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) warned Republican lawmakers on Friday not to expose the identity of top-secret FBI informant, saying that to do so would be "irresponsible" — and potentially illegal. "It would be at best irresponsible, and at worst potentially illegal, for members of Congress to use their positions to learn the identity of an FBI source for the purpose of undermining the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in our election," Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement. "Anyone who is entrusted with our nation’s highest secrets should act with the gravity and

Jimmy Carter drops crowd-size zinger aimed
at Trump during Liberty University commencement

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Washington Examiner, by Laura Barrón-López    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 5/19/2018 3:42:10 PM     Post Reply
Former President Jimmy Carter jabbed President Trump during his commencement speech at Liberty University in Virginia on Saturday, joking about the crowd size at the event. Carter pointed out that the crowd size at the commencement was bigger this year than when Trump spoke to Liberty graduates in 2017, the Associated Press reported. “I don’t know if President Trump would admit that," Carter said, referring to the Trump’s claim, which was widely determined to be false, that his inauguration crowd exceeded 1 million people. Carter wasn´t the only one to bring up the Trump inauguration crowd size Saturday. The Twitter

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry´s royal wedding:
Guests begin arriving, couple´s new titles revealed

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Fox News, by Leora Arnowitz    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 5/19/2018 4:33:56 AM     Post Reply
WINDSOR, England – Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s big day has come, and the sun is shining outside of St. George’s Chapel at Windsor Castle where early guests arrived about four hours before the royal wedding is set to begin. Many of the first guests to arrive were part of the approximately 1,200 members of the public that Markle and Prince Harry invited to witness their wedding, some of whom were invited due to their involvement in specific charities that are meaningful to the couple. Those guests will watch the wedding from a designated area outside of the castle, while


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