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‘All bets are off’ in NYC if federal
gun law passes: NYPD head

New York Post, by David K. Li

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Posted By:mc squared, 2/12/2018 9:19:28 AM

Police Commissioner James O’Neill said it would be “insanity” for the feds to force one state to recognize another’s lax gun laws. A bill making its way through Congress would make gun possession akin to a driver’s license — so one state’s looser regulations against concealed weapons would be protected in tougher anti-gun states, like New York. “I think it’s insanity,” O’Neill told CBS’s “60 Minutes” in an interview aired Sunday night. O’Neill said accidents and suicides — in addition to crime — could skyrocket with more out-of-state guns around town. “Right now, we have a good idea of who’s

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Police commissioner in NYC doesn´t want NYC to become lawless like Vermont, Utah, Maine, or most of the states.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Gordon Freeman, 2/12/2018 9:30:29 AM     (No. 11540992)

Isn´t the Police Commissioner a political appointee? Of course he´ll be saying things like that.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jimjr, 2/12/2018 10:00:05 AM     (No. 11541026)

Insanity is New York state´s refusal to recognize the Federal law protecting citizens traveling with firearms.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: harleynyc, 2/12/2018 10:03:30 AM     (No. 11541031)

That´s all we need- hot head russians packin heat during their road rage episodes. leave well enough alone.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: nerdowell, 2/12/2018 10:11:58 AM     (No. 11541045)

Stands to reason; more responsible gun owners -> less crime -> lower crime rate statistics -> reduction in need for cops-> diminished fiefdom.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hotrod, 2/12/2018 10:13:17 AM     (No. 11541046)

We can´t have law-abiding citizens toting guns in New York! That would be racist and unfair to the gangs! Why, some illegal immigrant trying to do an honest stickup might get hurt!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 2/12/2018 10:19:59 AM     (No. 11541059)

So states are forced to recognie homosexual marriage but states can´t bbe forced to recognize 2nd amendment rights. Typical liberal logic. ONe can´t pick and choose the laws which they willobey. Otherwise, you end up with Hades holes like California, New York, and Illinois.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: hpmatt, 2/12/2018 10:20:31 AM     (No. 11541060)

I might venture north of current Old Dominion if the law were to pass - I could visit relatives in the North Korea state of NY for a change.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: blueline, 2/12/2018 10:21:38 AM     (No. 11541062)

FTA: “Right now, we have a good idea of who’s carrying guns. If this law passes, all bets are off,”

Right...´cause all the thugs and gang-bangers self-reported. Good to know there Commissioner.

Doofus

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 2/12/2018 11:41:07 AM     (No. 11541195)

This doofus sounds just like every other big-city police commisioner or police chief for the padt 40 years when interviewed about concealed carry They all said the same things:

“They’ll shoot each other at traffic accidents!”
“Children will be killed!”
“The general public isn’t skilled enough!”
“They don’t know the law!”
“We won’t know who these people are!”

They’re all lies. Most big cities are run by liberals. the police chiefs know what to say to keep their jobs.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lazlototh, 2/12/2018 11:59:08 AM     (No. 11541214)

I am a New Yorker and torn by its gun laws because they are clearly unconstitutional and yet New York City has been successful in fighting crime and I have never been able to tell if its enforcement of gun laws has helped. Having said that, I completely agree with those above who lament NYC´s fascist prosecution of people who make technical errors in gun transport here and have their lives ruined. Also, the very nature of those who pass background checks and can carry weapons around makes it clear that they are the least likely to commit gun crimes or any other kinds of crimes, so I can only hope the federal law passes and NYC is forced to do something sensible.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dvc, 2/12/2018 12:30:16 PM     (No. 11541261)

It´s the Constitution.

It´s called Freedom, you fascist jerk. Most of the country has easy to obtain CCW permits, or NO PERMITS REQUIRED like Vt has always had, and now about a dozen more have. Crime is down, not up.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 2/12/2018 12:42:08 PM     (No. 11541277)

Those with carry permits are the most law abiding people in the country. The actual crime rate for legal permit holders is less than it is for law enforcement personnel.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/12/2018 12:55:48 PM     (No. 11541300)

60 minutes is too biased and stupid to ask this slob why NY state permit holders can´t carry in his town. After all O´Neill, NY permit holders commit less crime than NYC police or any NY police force. Why aren´t they welcomed into ´your´ city as a counter to the anti-Irish/black Sullivan Laws, which have been blatantly anti-constitutional for centuries?

´Insanity´ is allowing corrupt morons rule you. If this tool has such a good idea of who is armed, why over 300 murders every year, why rising gun crime the last 2 years? NYC hacks think the entire state is like their filthy town. So isolated they can´t even describe the process to get a concealed carry permit for the rest of NY state.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/12/2018 1:16:16 PM     (No. 11541326)

#3 if you think Russians or any criminal element in NYC is obeying the Sullivan Laws or deterred by them, you are operating under wishful thinking. Same for the rest of the state and all across the world.

There is a HUGE gap between no one can have guns and ´everyone´ can. The ´debate´ is never about who society thinks can not be responsible, only who our want to be ´rulers´ think can´t be trusted. Can a lunatic buy a gun? Not if even a few of the many Federal laws are followed.

On the other hand you have a demonstrably violent, threatening, not too bright, actor like Robert DeNiro who has had a concealed carry license for NY state AND NYC for decades. Does that make you feel safe? I guess as long as he doesn´t fixate on you like he does President Trump, you would not care. Unfortunately for him Donald Trump has had the same ´special´ permit for years as well. You see how it works in NYC? If you are famous, rich or a friend of the court, or a jewelry courier or the supreme hypocrite Charles Schumer, you can get a legal permit. Or you just lie like the Ferguson criminal and get a gun and murder white NYC commuters on a train. The system works great, except for the collateral damage of the poor souls who thought some NYC law would protect them. Some of us in the rest of the state, across the city line, have a fighting chance and even maniacs like Ferguson know that.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ribald1, 2/12/2018 1:24:32 PM     (No. 11541343)

This law is NOT a good idea.
A court case establishing that firearms permits are valid across state lines would be. Once the Feds get to regulate this we are just 2 steps from Federal licensing regulations and one president away from all transportation across state lines being banned.

Be VERY careful what you wish for.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Agent Orange, 2/12/2018 1:40:59 PM     (No. 11541366)

An armed society is a safe society. In towns where they have ordered its people to be armed, crime has almost disappeared.

Just look at Switzerland where all citizens are required to be armed and are used from time to time like a standby militia.

MSgt USAF (ret)

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Reply 17 - Posted by: dvc, 2/12/2018 6:44:37 PM     (No. 11541706)

#15, no way off base.

The law just says that, like a driver´s license, states would have to honor CCW permits from other states. No Federal power increase there at all.

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