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California mudslides: 1,250 rescuers
searching ´for a miracle´

CNN, by Faith Karimi and Steve Almasy

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Posted By:greggojo, 1/12/2018 11:59:56 AM

The grueling search efforts following mudslides in Southern California will enter a fourth day Friday, with authorities scouring piles of debris again as the window to find survivors narrows. Rescuers plan to search several areas for a second time, hoping to find victims in structures previously examined in the immediate aftermath of Tuesday´s mudslides. The number of missing remains in flux, with authorities saying Friday it was five people, down from an estimate of 43 the day before.

This is a terrible tragedy. The rains came at 3AM and several feet of water rushed down the road and the mudslides began. On a much less important note, the homes that were not damaged will be in danger for years and although once extremely valuable, are as far as I can see, now worthless. You couldn´t pay me to live in one of them. Something similar happened in San Francisco´s Sausalito area years ago.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/12/2018 12:48:19 PM     (No. 11508022)

Accuweather has a video of a fellow today as the river of mud came roaring down the street and poured into his home. I have never seen such soupy looking mud before that close up. Looks like a nightmare for residents.

I hope they can find and account for all the missing, there are a lot of them according to reports. Bless all the volunteer rescuers who are helping the first responders.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/12/2018 12:53:02 PM     (No. 11508028)

Don´t build in an area subject to mud slides.
Problem solved.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: retiree, 1/12/2018 1:43:27 PM     (No. 11508113)

Very sad, but all we see in the news is Oprah and other elites who have lost their homes.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/12/2018 2:15:28 PM     (No. 11508180)

The miracle was finding republicans who survived.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/12/2018 3:10:31 PM     (No. 11508246)

Re #2, this area is not subject to mud slides. I lived there for a number of years and pretty well know its history. La Conchita down the coast had a mudslide about 10+ years ago. It is a tiny enclave at the foot of a very high cliff, atop which are avocado groves. It was my belief that the heavy irrigation of those groves caused a portion of the cliff to slide.

There is no connection between this and what just happened in Montecito.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jimincalif, 1/12/2018 3:11:55 PM     (No. 11508248)

We´ve had the perfect sequence of events to lead up to this. An exceptionally rainy winter last season created lots of fuel. Lots of accumulated fuel from the prior years´ drought. Virtually no rain this fall but many hot/dry wind events to dry out the vegetation and create a tinderbox. Then a massive fire, with the first rain of the season just 4 weeks later, and exceptionally heavy rain at that.

California weather is beautiful, but it can be extreme. It´s easy to forget this living here day-to-day, and then something like this happens. Prayers for the victims and their families and the surrounding community.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/12/2018 3:15:55 PM     (No. 11508253)

Oprah did not lose her mansion. It too is on nearly dead flat terrain. She got some mud in her “back yard”, according to her report. Homes built on adjacent property were swept away.

Most of the flooding came via Montecito Creek, which is normally a dry creek full of boulders. One-half inch of rain hit in less than an hour early in the morning after there had been only intermittent light rain the night before. This was a freak of nature, compounded by the inability of fire ravaged areas on the high end of the creek to absorb that kind of rainfall. Thus debris and boulders from the burn area washed down Montecito Creek and out into neighboring streets almost all the way to the ocean.

One has to know the area to understand how freakish this really was.

Searches and rescues have been difficult because too many roads have been blocked by debris. Helicopter search and rescue was a necessity, not a luxury.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/12/2018 3:21:12 PM     (No. 11508257)

Dear all. California is absolutely beautiful. Santa Barbara, Montecity, Summerland and Carpinteria. Exceptionally beautiful wonderful places to live.

It is difficult to label our weather as being “extreme” when we are having 70 degree weather going to 80s this weekend (and 75 on New Year’s Day is not unusual). We do not get:

Freezing cold
Heavy snowstorms (except in the mountains when we’re lucky)
Hurricanes with attendant flooding
Dust storms

Roses are blooming. California strawberries are in our markets at reasonable prices. Avocados were 49 cents yesterday. Tomatoes - gorgeous hot house - 95 cents a pound… Beautiful big globe artichokes from up the coast - $2/each. And on and on.

We really are happy here!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/12/2018 3:21:58 PM     (No. 11508258)

Re 8, Montecito.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/12/2018 3:25:01 PM     (No. 11508262)


We in SoCal did not get the heavy rain that was a big deal last year in NoCal. Rain does make the kind of fast-growing, fast-dying grass that ends up being tinder for wildfires. Santa Barbara just had a very atypical 4 years of drought. Everything was dry. Most of the vegetation there is chaparral. Read about it. Most don’t understand it because if is native to only three places: California, a small area in South Texas, and the Mediterranean.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dman, 1/12/2018 3:55:35 PM     (No. 11508295)

Again: prayers for the innocents caught up in this.

Having lived in NoCal, I agree that CA weather and CA living is hard to beat ..

.. until it isn´t.

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