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Gibson wonders if he suffered
a heart attack during
dominant ´68 season

Saint Louis post Dispatch, by Rick Hummel

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Posted By:tisHimself, 1/12/2018 10:19:51 AM

Fifty years ago — really, has it been that long? — Cardinals Hall of Fame righthander Bob Gibson sashayed through the National League with a 22-9 record, 13 shutouts, 28 complete games, 268 strikeouts and a mind-numbing 1.12 earned-run average, best in the modern era. But it wasn’t that easy. “There was pressure all year,” said Gibson, who especially will be honored Sunday night among other Cardinals greats of the past 60 years at the annual St. Louis Baseball Writers’ dinner at Union Station Hotel. “I have them right now, but I think I developed ulcers then. I had a lot of

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 1/12/2018 10:28:50 AM     (No. 11507843)

He was the best I ever saw. Almost always went the distance and his games usually ended in 2 hours or less. Almost superhuman in these days of 6 innings and call in relievers. What would a pitcher of Bob Gibson´s talent be worth today? It boggles the mind.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 1/12/2018 10:36:48 AM     (No. 11507850)

Gibson and Drysdale were two of the meanist pitchers in baseball history. I think one of them threw at a player in the on-deck circle because he thought the player was "timing" his pitches.

Nowadays, pitchers who throw inside to a batter get warned by the umps and face ejection and batters routinely charge the mound.

Both Gibson and Drysdale would challenge the batters to go ahead and make his day, so to speak, by charging the mound. Few did.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/12/2018 10:38:01 AM     (No. 11507852)

Left unsaid is that amphetamines - ´greenies´ - were openly provided and consumed in clubhouses. They were even put out on tables in bowls like M&Ms.

None of that is to suggest Gibson used amphetamines but uppers will certainly cause heart arrhythmia and worse especially in those predisposed to such things.

There´s a reason players of the late 60s through the early 80s didn´t fear the tight double-knit uniforms with their pullover jerseys and beltless pants. They were skinny as rails and often had ´help.´

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac, 1/12/2018 11:09:00 AM     (No. 11507892)

Gibson got only 3.03 runs average from his teammates in 1968? That makes his record all the more intimidating. That´s what kept him from 30+ wins (and why he had 9 losses). There is no question that Bob Gibson is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of MLB. (I remember him well.) His ´68 season ERA (1.12) might never be bettered.

As I recall a lot of attention that year was justifiably devoted to Denny McLain, whose won-loss record of 31-4 also won´t be topped in our lifetimes. (McLain´s ´68 Tigers scored considerably more runs than Gibson´s Cardinals during that season.) In a sense McLain sucked a bit of oxygen out of Gibson´s singular season. (Detroit also beat St. Louis 4 games to 3 in the ´68 World Series, the final insult from the Cardinals´ point of view.) Baseball is a great sport, my favorite among the Big Three.

I got a big smile from the second replier´s reference to Gibson and Drysdale´s meanness on the mound. They were indeed, but in a good way. Their busts are also ensconced forever in Cooperstown.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/12/2018 12:37:59 PM     (No. 11508002)

Gibson was either a monster or a machine, I´m not sure which.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Tiger Stadium, 1/12/2018 12:53:46 PM     (No. 11508030)

If I was setting up a starting rotation for all-time, Bob Gibson would be my number one starter. Dominance, coupled with a all out junk yard dog mentality. Can´t quite comprehend a 1.12 ERA in ´68 and still lost 9 games.

My other four starters would be Sandy Koufax, Jim Palmer, Roger Clemens and Mickey Lolich.

Lolich was a workhorse and his performance in the 1968 World Series is reason alone.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Newtsche, 1/12/2018 1:07:45 PM     (No. 11508049)

FWIW, #4, Detroit´s Mickey Lolich was the star of the ´68 WS.

As for Gibson, he was at least as mean off the mound and heart attacks and ulcers hardly define "sashaying". I´d expect no less from the St. Louis Post-Disgrace and a city that loves its baseball way too much. Living among Cardinals fans for decades has pretty much ruined the game for me, they´re relentless and obsessed to a huge fault.

I know, all fans can be that way, here´s a story. Late ´80´s, Cards and Mets have been at each others´ throats for some years. Late season at Busch Stadium, the Mets are in town for a pivotal series. I´m in the press box, so are a bunch of hard-boiled, utterly jaded NY sports journos. They all have dazed looks, one says to another "What´s wrong with these people?!"

Indeed.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/12/2018 2:20:43 PM     (No. 11508190)

Professional athletes get what they deserve a big check and no concern about their health. The owners don´t care about health.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: KTWO, 1/12/2018 2:30:50 PM     (No. 11508201)

The photo is interesting. Notice that Cash is not ready to bat. Perhaps he intended to bunt? Or had he already swung and hit the ball?

Or was it personal? Was Gibson throwing at his head?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: tank, 1/13/2018 10:00:41 AM     (No. 11509005)

Could be, #9. Gibson was a beast. Bill White, I think it was, once said Gibson apologized after hitting him in the neck during a game. Bill told him, "That´s alright, I know you didn´t mean to hit me."

Gibson replied, "I meant to hit you, just not in the neck."

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Reply 11 - Posted by: tank, 1/13/2018 10:02:30 AM     (No. 11509009)

I just looked at that picture again. The caption is wrong. Cash is swinging, and the ball is heading outward, not toward the plate.

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