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Clinton’s dodgy dossier is
way worse than Watergate

Boston Herald, by Howie Carr

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Posted By:MissMolly, 1/12/2018 5:02:17 AM

This Fusion GPS hoax is going to be a bigger political scandal than Watergate. Think about it — Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid big bucks to the dirty tricksters at Fusion GPS to concoct an utterly bogus anti-Trump “dossier.” Hillary’s 35-page smear was then handed off to corrupt FBI agents and DOJ employees who were themselves accepting money from either Clinton cronies or the smear artists at Fusion GPS, who by the way were also being paid by the Russians at the same time. And then the crooked FBI took Hillary’s fake dossier to a secret federal court and used

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MainelySane, 1/12/2018 5:33:30 AM     (No. 11507565)

Once again, Howie has simplified the complex.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: steveW, 1/12/2018 5:48:10 AM     (No. 11507566)

But this time, the Woodwards and Bernsteins are handling the coverup.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: FleetUSA, 1/12/2018 5:50:07 AM     (No. 11507567)

My feelings exactly.

Follow the money: Who paid and who received payments.

Hi$$ary was so paranoid and confident of winning that she couldn´t resist buying some extra insurance for victory. She had almost unlimited funds to spend as well (other people´s money).

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pearson365, 1/12/2018 5:59:40 AM     (No. 11507571)

If only AG Sessions hadn´t gone into a self-induced coma, aka recusal, he would be able to read this summary of this incredible scandal hatched by Hillary and carried out by Obama´s DoJ and FBI. Unfortunately, Sessions is totally unaware of this and other Obama and Clinton regime scandals due to his political coma.

Without indictments, trials and convictions, this crime, like alll Clinton crimes, will soon be "old news", not to be discussed again. Expect Hillary / Oprah for 2020 Vision.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 1/12/2018 6:39:28 AM     (No. 11507585)

Maybe the dossier IS the insurance policy. If you are weaponizing the FBI against a political candidate, you need an excuse if you get caught.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Newtsche, 1/12/2018 6:47:08 AM     (No. 11507592)

#2 makes the most important point. And, as this is just one instance, the corrupt press is the biggest scandal of all.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: normal user, 1/12/2018 7:29:49 AM     (No. 11507625)

I also remember when Bengahzi was going to be bigger than Watergate. We can only wish...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 1/12/2018 7:41:08 AM     (No. 11507638)

What also bothers me about this is that not only are the government agencies and media corrupt but it also says a lot about the "back end" of politics and government.

Simpson is laying out his working model for us, a model that is apparently used regularly for politics, government, business, and other clients. That model is based on a bad Hollywood spy fiction view of the world. Their trusted agent, Steele, chats up people, including Russians with agendas and then he writes a novel. There is NO need, according to Simpson, to verify ANY of this information. The information only needs to be "credible". Credibility can be simply that a source is a real person.

If I, jeffkinnh, tell Steele that Trump is colluding with little green men from mars and I actually exist (don’t I?), then the report is "credible".

That is ridiculously thin gruel to be serving up for such serious purposes as intelligence. The agencies involved, in over a year´s time, cannot declare this is garbage because none of the data can verified? That brings into question the competency and frankly even the rationale to even have such agencies if such as this are their information sources.

When we see reports in media from "experts", are these the type of sources they are quoting?

How can serious decisions be made correctly when the information fed to us is no more real than Fantasia? What is the caliber of information consumers in politics, media, and others in society when such idiocy is taken seriously? Simpson´s group, funneling many millions of dollars to play their pretend games, should be a laughing stock for anyone wanting real intelligence.

It´s far worse than corruption. It´s a potentially fatal collapse of our capability to function in the real world.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: congar, 1/12/2018 7:58:46 AM     (No. 11507652)

If this slimy dossier affair involved Republicans, that’s all you would ever hear about. Since Democrats are the culprits, you only hear a little about it here and there. It makes Watergate look juvenile.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: winnie1, 1/12/2018 8:14:45 AM     (No. 11507668)

Howie should ask the questions at congressional hearings. I love Howie, good job.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: hicokid, 1/12/2018 8:32:59 AM     (No. 11507681)

Steele was paid "gobs of money". Really? I understand that to be a little over $160K, while Fusion GPS was paid more than $12 million through Perkins Coie. New reports say that an additional $1 million was paid to Fusion GPS by Obama´s new foundation. The amount that Steele was paid gets lost in the rounding errors. Where did all that money go??

Congress now has Fusion GPS´s bank records. The answers must be shocking.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/12/2018 8:46:43 AM     (No. 11507698)

Fusion GPS was also being paid by the FBI to do queries of the NSA database, before the dossier. It is time for a special prosecutor on this case.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Hotrod, 1/12/2018 9:08:30 AM     (No. 11507738)

Yep, Hillary was certain she was going to win. That wasn´t enough for her though. She wanted to destroy Donald Trump. She hated(s) him because he dared challenge her and say UN-PC things about her (including putting her in jail!). The hatred oozes from her very skin!

The dossier, and all the rest, were her weapons. Too bad she lost. We are now finding out all these things that were to never see the light of day. No wonder the democrats are taking the election so hard!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 1/12/2018 9:31:22 AM     (No. 11507767)

Watergate was a third rate bungled break in by wannabe cat burglars working for a paranoid President with a poor tape machine. People still served time in prison for it for lesser crimes than this.
This is huge criminal activity at the very top of government engulfing many more figures than Watergate. The American people demand justice because this is all in our faces regardless of the fake news not reporting it. If America is to be great again it has to start with law and order for crimes like this and agencies corrupted purged for doing the crimes.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: hicokid, 1/12/2018 10:13:34 AM     (No. 11507820)

Holy cow. It appears to be true. The FBI gave Fusion GPS free access to the NSA data base and raw intel. No FISA court warrants needed.

Remember when we were told that the NSA was only collecting our meta data? That was a flat-out lie. They use our meta data to search and find our raw data (phone calls, emails, texts). It was bad enough that the government was doing this. Now, we find out that they gave this capability to sleazy oppo-research types like Fusion GPS.

Remember when we were told that NSA surveillance was to catch the bad foreign actors? After 911, the first thing the government does is weaponize this capability against us. After-the-fact illegal searches to frame, blackmail and prosecute us. This is 1984 squared.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: steph_gray, 1/12/2018 10:54:50 AM     (No. 11507872)

#8 says: When we see reports in media from "experts", are these the type of sources they are quoting?

Yes but only about 30% of the time. The rest of the time the enemedia are just making it all up.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Arby, 1/12/2018 11:01:57 AM     (No. 11507882)

Way, way worse than Watergate. Let the truth be known even if the heavens fall.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dave292, 1/12/2018 11:29:49 AM     (No. 11507917)

hicokid: Your mention of the NSA and metadata had me thinking that you may enjoy this column from way back in 2013 - "The Government, Metadata, and You." http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/business-technology/the-government-metadata-and-you/ - that columnists book, "I.T. WARS," has all kinds of prescient warnings and solutions - to include a fantastic discussion of EMP and what must be done. 10 years ahead of his time.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sherlock1, 1/12/2018 12:37:32 PM     (No. 11508001)

The unasked question is: why only Trump? This dirty-work apparently started before he was the Republican nominee, but our elites didn’t take him seriously then (or in most cases, until the morning of November 9th). Two possible answers:

1. It wasn’t only Trump - other Republicans were targeted too.
2. It wasn’t necessary - the dirt on the other Republicans had already been gathered over the previous, say, 7 years...

Perhaps a whole shoe store full of shoes remain to drop!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: p51dmustang, 1/12/2018 1:09:56 PM     (No. 11508058)

O´Bumbler and Crooked Hillary should be looking at some serious Jail Time...if tongue and cheek found guilty..

Its time one of their associates through them both under the bus. These accomplices will need to save their own skin....bah bah ha ha ha.

Love Wining.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: idahojoe, 1/12/2018 1:49:07 PM     (No. 11508122)

Don´t forget that the Democrats needed someone to turn the dossier from a dimestore seedy short story into an FBI file. McCain fell all over himself volunteering to do that.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Mulhaven, 1/12/2018 4:04:31 PM     (No. 11508305)

The totality of crimes is so immense and so evil as to validate a trial on the stature of the Nuremberg Trials. There is no way to handle this through the corrupt Justice Department. A trial by jury could easily be invalidated by the fanatical supporters of the political establishment.

This needs to be handled by people of impeccable character, honour and dedication to the truth. It needs to be something like a military tribunal.

The whole criminality of the past 28 years needs to be exposed. Bring it to light and severely punish those who were its perpetrators.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Bohallx, 1/12/2018 5:22:32 PM     (No. 11508371)

The Dossier is at the center of the web, but is it just bait, or something else.

I think it´s entirely possible that Fusion was playing a part for the FBI and DOJ that they could not play themselves without revealing what they were up to with a request for a warrant.

In short, it could be as simple as a vehicle that justified money transfers from the FBI to Fusion.... or as complex as a tale to confound IGs, US Senators, the Clintons, etc.

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