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California HOA Forces Residents to
Keep Garage Doors Open to Deter Squatters

PJ Media, by Tom Knighton

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Posted By:MissMolly, 1/11/2018 4:43:39 AM

In a couple of years, my wife and I will be looking to buy a house. There are a few things we want, such as a fireplace, lots of kitchen storage, and an office for me. These are important things, but for the right house, we may be flexible on some of these. One thing we´re not budging on is no homeowners associations. Why? Well, stuff like what is taking place with one HOA in California, for one. The HOA in the Auburn Greens community of Auburn, California, found out that someone in the neighborhood had allowed someone else to live in

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: greggojo, 1/11/2018 5:19:43 AM     (No. 11506527)

After the story gained national attention, the HOA has (at least temporarily) rescinded the rule.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: FunOne, 1/11/2018 5:52:07 AM     (No. 11506540)

Years ago I needed housing for a job in the Washington, DC area. Not wanting to live in a city, I purchased a townhouse in Virginia. It was my first experience with a homeowners association, and it will be the last time I ever live under such conditions. I understand why homeowner association is preceded by the word "Nazi".

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Reply 3 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2018 6:15:12 AM     (No. 11506553)

All of those Auburn families then had to find another place for their twenty-something sons to live.

Florida is just as bad. One community doesn´t allow pickup trucks to be parked outside, in another you can´t remove a diseased tree without buying a permit - or waiting for the next hurricane.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/11/2018 6:43:29 AM     (No. 11506583)

From time to time, I have large beautiful wooded residential lots to dispose of. The first question from prospective buyers is always a concerned "Is there an HOA?" My answer is "No" and then the buyer is ready to continue talking.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: cThree, 1/11/2018 7:47:03 AM     (No. 11506625)

The missing element here is in the acronym itself: HOA is Home Owners Association.

The answer almost always is to show up at the meetings and speak up as a homeowner.

In my own life I´ve avoided boards, been on boards, been president of boards (one, for 6 years). I know first hand that pettiness has no bounds, and common sense isn´t as common as you´d think.

In fact, it´s easy to see in these trivial things the impulse to control, to set 20 rules for using the laundry room, for example.

I don´t mind the public embarrassment this HOA earned, but for everyday life, the answer is to take responsibility and represent yourself in the association of your peers.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/11/2018 7:55:09 AM     (No. 11506627)

Get Rural.

It´s the best "Insurance" against a long list of coming disasters.

Give up fancy restaurants in exchange for living free.

Dump that Mercedes and get a John Deere and an old pick-up.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: jackburton, 1/11/2018 8:10:29 AM     (No. 11506631)

I didn´t see the squatters issue addressed in the article and surely, in California, THAT is an issue.

But there are other ways of handling it short of exposing home owners to possible theft and break ins (Every door to the house from a garage that I have ever been in is an inside door... easier to break thru than your typical storm/outside door.)

Someone should file a suit.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: GO3, 1/11/2018 8:15:31 AM     (No. 11506634)

We took #6 advice six months ago and haven´t regretted it one bit.

HOAs are inherently coercive and amazingly have been granted powers from the state legislatures. Therefore to roll back HOAs you are going to have a political fight on your hands.

I´ve been on an HOA board, and as far as being involved in HOA matters it unfortunately means that a number of these involved homeowners have collectivist expectations and want to hand over matters of personal responsibility to the HOA. The association in turn, will be more than happy to take them on to gain more power. The petty nature of property owners´ complaints/initiatives makes you wonder how they became functioning adults. And that is the crux of the problem.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: jimjr, 1/11/2018 10:10:42 AM     (No. 11506750)

The biggest problems with HOA´s are when the homeowners decide to pay management to a "management company" (because they can´t be bothered to run it themselves). HOA Management Companies are largely unaccountable (fill in the blank).

Which is better?
1. Ed, We´ve noticed that your yard is getting a bit rough, could you use a hand getting things cleaned up a bit?

or

2. Notice for the Homeowner´s Association: You have 7 days to have your yard in compliance with association rules. Failure to comply will result in a fine of $50 per day until your yard is on compliance.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/11/2018 10:45:56 AM     (No. 11506801)

I´ve been on the Board of our HOA for many, many years and can state without reservation that our HOA has earned the respect of our homeowners, and been run with utmost efficiency.

The purpose of an HOA is not to "play god" or attempt to micromanage someone´s garden, but to maintain common areas and improve property values in the association. One must read the CC&Rs very carefully before signing a contract for a home in an HOA.

We also have a Property Management company doing the day to day operation of our HOA, and it´s been great. The PM guy can´t do a thing without Board approval first. The larger the HOA the more difficult it becomes for homeowners to manage it. While many volunteer, few show up to do work. Every homeowner has the opportunity to get on a Board and make a difference. Don´t whine, get involved.

I´d not want to live in a neighborhood without an HOA, simply because I´ve lived in neighborhoods where property values slid because some twit saw no reason why it wasn´t OK for him to park his dually truck in his front yard, or to paint his garage door red to send a statement to other neighbors. We also had a squatter next door who kept his Porsche in the garage but when he was discovered, left the place with nothing bolted down. It was ransacked. This open door approach may not be the best method, but until you´ve tried to solve problems like this, don´t throw stones.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: hurricanegirl, 1/11/2018 11:03:42 AM     (No. 11506820)

Great idea: Yes, let´s discourage squatters and ENCOURAGE burglaries!!!

I just don´t think I´m docile enough to put up with such stupidity (which is why I live in the "sticks")!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba, 1/11/2018 11:20:19 AM     (No. 11506841)


I manage the operations of a radio station. I get mail from a national home owners association asking me to air "public service announcements" about their goodness. I don´t.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: PAdiva, 1/11/2018 11:39:22 AM     (No. 11506865)

HOA management companies can nickel-and-dime the association.
The condo owner received letters from the management company that he left his broom on the patio (at the back of his condo). He also received a letter to replace his mailbox because the other 3 condo owners in his area had upgraded their mailboxes.
Every letter sent is a service fee to the HOA.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/11/2018 1:00:55 PM     (No. 11506956)

Leave your front doors wide open to prevent robbery or any other insidious crime. Who are these idiots in most HOA´s?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 1/11/2018 2:14:05 PM     (No. 11507036)

This has to be ILLEGAL.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kono, 1/11/2018 3:36:12 PM     (No. 11507104)

#15 - Naw, just immoral.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 1/12/2018 2:18:57 AM     (No. 11507545)

HOAs are perfect places for liberal fascists to gather. They can´t grasp the notions of private property or freedom. If they´re really concerned about property values, why are they importing millions of thieves?

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