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NY’s futile fight against
illegal cigarettes

New York Post, by Editorial Board

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Posted By:Ribicon, 1/3/2018 12:16:09 AM

State authorities set a record in 2017 by seizing $6.6 million worth of illegal tobacco products, a $1 million jump over 2016. The 2016 seizures, in turn, marked a increase from the year before. Indeed, for each of the past three years, the state has steadily boosted inspections — and wound up grabbing more illegal products. (Snip) Illegal cigs today actually outnumber legal ones, making up 57 percent of the market. Why? Rising tobacco taxes, which have soared 190 percent since then. State and local cig taxes ($5.85 a pack, in total) are a powerful incentive for crooks: If they can get

Easy ventures like cigarette smuggling are known avenues of funding for terrorist groups and foolishly high taxes all but guarantee such cheating, but the politicians see only one solution: more taxes.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Safari Man, 1/3/2018 1:44:24 AM     (No. 11498243)

Illegal aliens good, Illegal phags no good.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: BirdsNest, 1/3/2018 2:14:02 AM     (No. 11498257)

I have seen many a car with out of states license plates stop at the 4 easy in easy out convensnce stores....3-4 passengers each go in, buy 3 cartons and place them in the trunk. Then on to the next store. I can only assume they did this from Va to NY. Big money.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chumley, 1/3/2018 2:57:44 AM     (No. 11498263)

I wish all the best to the bootleggers. Our nation has a long and proud history of protesting unjust taxes by avoiding them and its nice to see that´s still true.
The government is not and never has been your friend. All you are really doing is electing your own mugger.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/3/2018 5:52:34 AM     (No. 11498294)

There are no "Black Markets".

There are only Markets.

Note: The Marxists have attempted to turn the
"Market-Place of Ideas" (The University) into a
"Black Market". See how that works ?

I hope to live long enough to see the Universities purged of their fetid, rotting, craven Marxism.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: franq, 1/3/2018 6:03:08 AM     (No. 11498298)

It´s the only logical outcome. Same thing is going to happen in all the Weed states. I remember seeing a recent article about Colorado residents bemoaning the high price of legal pot.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ginadee, 1/3/2018 7:47:29 AM     (No. 11498345)

$5.85 per pack would work better than Chantix(sp) or the patch, etc.
Nothing illegal could be a good thing.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 1/3/2018 8:18:25 AM     (No. 11498371)

Tax the bejeebers out of cigarettes to stop smoking but pretty much leave alcohol alone. Answer me a question:

Would you rather see a 21 year old get into his car with a cigarette dangling from his lips or:

A 21 year old climbing into his car while fall-down drunk?

I see smoking as long term suicide...Drunk driving as a murder in progress.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: strike3, 1/3/2018 8:38:31 AM     (No. 11498387)

New york politicians are convinced that North Carolina tourists just love their state. The same tourists visit week after week after week.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: hurricanegirl, 1/3/2018 8:57:21 AM     (No. 11498406)

So on one coast we have the nanny state taxing regular ol´ cigs because they´re bad! bad! BAD!, and on the other coast, we have legalized pot!

Go figure!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: dvc, 1/3/2018 11:47:02 AM     (No. 11498612)

They almost had another Indian war about 10-15 year ago over cigs.
There is an Indian reservation which borders Canada, and the Indians were getting untaxed cigs from Canada and smuggling them all over the state. The police nearly started a war to stop it, but at the last minute, cooler heads prevailed.

Over tax something and people WILL smuggle it. Not ever going to change.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dvc, 1/3/2018 11:53:28 AM     (No. 11498617)

A former colleague got very wealthy in the Soviet Union with "black market goods". When I asked him what he sold, I was surprise when he said, "candy, gum mostly".

Candy and gum were very limited in soviet times, so he made it and sold it, became extremely wealthy and then legally emigrated to the USA.

Black markets provide goods that people want and the government doesn´t want them to have. Other than deadly and addictive drugs, mostly they are not a problem.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/3/2018 12:06:14 PM     (No. 11498631)

If all this smoking helps eliminate democrats, I´m all for it. As I life long republican I have never smoked.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: KatieJo, 1/3/2018 12:31:45 PM     (No. 11498660)

FTA: "State and local cig taxes ($5.85 a pack, in total) are a powerful incentive for crooks". Oh yes, and the government are the crooks. This was never about health, it´s about money and control. The war on cigarettes was a proving ground for the power of propaganda and demonizing certain segments of the population. Now that we have government involved in "health care", your choices (obesity, for example) will determine whether or not you are worthy of treatment. The NHS in the UK is already refusing treatment to smokers and the obese. Think they´ll stop there? Think again.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: web, 1/3/2018 12:41:14 PM     (No. 11498668)

I no longer smoke, and one of the reasons I quit is to annoy the liberals who were taking my "tobacco settlement" taxes, that were supposed to pay for my healthcare, and diverting it to pay for the early education of criminal alien children.

A friend of mine was on the medical marijuana program, but quit because the cost to buy it legally online was 2-4 times what he could buy it on the street. Why involve government and pay their salaries with something that is none of their business?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/3/2018 4:57:53 PM     (No. 11499026)

Over taxation is supposed to be unconstitutional. Isn´t this what the famous "Boston Tea Party" was all about? It is nothing but confiscation when it reaches this exorbitant level. That is why the liquor taxes were ultimately limited- because any higher and bootlegging becomes profitable. We had a friend who lived in Mass. who was a chain smoker. She was telling us it was over a hundred bucks to buy a carton of smokes in her state. She was going through a carton and a half a week! We used to buy cigs here and send them to her for birthday and Xmas. At the time they were about $35.00 (now about $50.00) a carton here. Anytime you have such a huge disparity in prices across state lines, you can bet people are going to make some bucks on that. If someone lived in a huge welfare apartment complex, smugglers would be on every floor. Remember, cigarettes are not supposed to be purchased with EBT cards. So, Miamay would go to the "Corner´ Quickie Store, sell EBT for 50 cents on the dolla, go home and buy cigs from "travelin´"Jasmine next door for $75.00- and to Hell with that state price of $113.00 a carton- right? Cools all the way, Bay-bee!

What part of this did the Democrats running the state not understand or expect?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 1/3/2018 6:37:58 PM     (No. 11499130)

All you need is a U-haul truck and enough gas to make it down and back to Kentucky for $thousands in profit. Sure beats the Kramer/Newman scheme for bottle deposits.

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