WASHINGTON — Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, who almost certainly holds the crucial vote in the case of a Colorado baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, sent sharply contradictory messages when it was argued Tuesday at the Supreme Court. He asked a lawyer for the Trump administration whether the baker, Jack Phillips, could put a sign in his window saying, “We don’t bake cakes for gay weddings.” The lawyer, Noel J. Francisco said yes, so long as the cakes were custom made. Justice Kennedy looked troubled and said the administration’s position was an affront to the dignity
What goes unsaid in the coverage of this case is that the two gays were activists who targeted the shop, made a scene in the shop, and triggered (perhaps coordinated) hundreds of abusive and threatening phone calls to the shop. It was so bad that Jack Phillips wouldn´t let his employees answer the phone.
This will be another perfect opportunity for Kennedy to get on his moral high horse and issue a pompous, holier-than-thou opinion that will be legally and logically incomprehensible.
The baker will lose and Kennedy will write the opinion. Then he will go up to the New York Times´ editor´s office (might as well bring McCain and Flake with him for good measure) to get the good-little-boy pat on the head, and he´ll drool like a puppy.
Freedom of Religion is guaranteed to American citizens in our Constitution. Freedom of Perversion is not. What´s so hard about it? We have had enough of crazy people suing and trying to force us to endorse and take part in their perversions. Government has no authority or right to force us to endorse things we do not wish to take part in.
I will not read the article, since it comes from a Fake News site, but I assume the last line refers to "the dignity" of homosexuals. You cannot affront something that does not exist.
And Justice Kennedy´s decision in this matter was/is an affront to the dignity of the institution of marriage. Dignity is hard to find in sexual activity as it´s characterized these days (homosexual or heterosexual). Let´s face it, it is about as base an impulse as it gets, not to say it´s not ennobled when love and procreation are part of the picture.
Selling a cake off the shelf is one thing. Baking a custom cake is quite another. No one in the private sector should be forced by the government to provide any service.
Can he not see that compelling someone to act against his/her conscience is unconstitutional? Apparently not.
This whole matter is ridiculous. The shop owner never discriminated. He would have sold the couple anything in his shop, he would have made them any type of custom cake except one that went against his religious principles. How is this even an issue. What is wrong with us. Don´t all religions deserve respect. Certain Native American sects are allowed to smoke illegal substances, peyote, in their ceremonies. It´s religious freedom. How can you force a man to express support of something that goes against his religious beliefs.
In addition to #4´s informative post, the media is careful not to show the custom cakes created by this baker. His cakes are as close to art, or are art, as a decorated cake could be. They are extremely unique and quite beautiful. No doubt in addition to not allowing the point that they are art to be made, the media also wants to avoid giving any free positive publicity to the baker. (PS I hate the American press. Their bias is so downright blatant. And they have given us nothing but rotten advice for as long as I can remember. We certainly have the press (who strongly supports Dem politicians) to thank for the absolute wretchedness in our inner cities. And the millions of poorly educated, non-English speaking illegal aliens who have burdened our schools, hospitals and welfare systems).
I´ve had a hard time smiling about this case... but #10 gave me a smile. THANKS!
Are there cake shops in big cities (you know, where people are "open minded"), that have a big assortment of wedding cake toppers?... - man in tux, woman in beautiful white gown (traditional) - two men in tuxes - two women in white gowns - man with two brides - bride and groom both in leather with whips and handcuffs - man and young girl - man and young boy - man and sheep with fishnet stockings ... etc?
Sorry to post again, but the questio about race is different because the baker´s religion doesn´t approve of racial discrimination. It is consistent with the law so there is no infringement on the baker´s rights. And the baker here isn´t refusing to deal with gay people; he is only refusing to make a cake for something he doesn´t believe in. They can still buy a cake or even ask for a cake with specific flavors,etc. The baker is saying he will not create and decorate a cake that celebrates gay marriage.
Wedding cakes come from the same batter. There´s no difference between the flour or the eggs or the sugar between wedding cake A and wedding cake B. If a same-sex couple insisted on the baker using sugar imported from Burundi, the baker would be within his rights to refuse their request but not otherwise.
Unusual requests can always be denied by a baker but this case before the Supreme Court is about whether a baker can refuse to serve a product that is run-of-the-mill for his business.
Wedding cakes are art. Imagine going up to any artist no matter what the medium and demanding that they perform for you to your specifications, and if they don´t, they will be sued. Dance monkeys, dance.
Am ambivalent about this. Anyone should have the right to refuse anyone as a customer. All those restaurants that say: "No Shoes, No Socks, Noe Shirt, No Service" certainly have the right. I would have just baked a kitty litter cake and charged them $ 5k and if they didn´t pay charge them with breach of contract.
First Amendment, U. S. Constitution: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,…” The “law” is clear, no “prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE thereof (religion).” The text does not include “dignity.” “Dignity” is an innate, inherent value and worth as human beings. “Law” consists of rules recognized and enforced by judicial decisions (U.S.Constitution). The bottom line is does anyone have the right to exercise their freedom of religion (law), yes or no. Reality Check: The U. S. Constitution makes allowance for conscientious objectors based on religious beliefs.
I wish there were a storing religious freedom (or some such) law, that stated if an activist must drive past a business that would provide the service as requested in order to (1) reach the business of a religious person and (2) be denied the service requested in order to (3) file a complaint, then the penalty due the business will be doubled and charged to the activist complainant.
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