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Charles Manson, mastermind behind
1969 deaths of actress Sharon
Tate, 6 others, dead at 83

Fox News, by Staff

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Posted By:Hazymac, 11/20/2017 9:03:08 AM

Charles Manson, the hippie cult leader who became the hypnotic-eyed face of evil across America after orchestrating the gruesome murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others in Los Angeles during the summer of 1969, died Sunday after nearly a half-century in prison. He was 83. Manson, whose name to this day is synonymous with unspeakable violence and madness, died of natural causes at Kern County hospital, according to a California Department of Corrections statement. TMZ was first to report on the killer´s death. The celebrity-news site reported that Debra Tate, the sister of Sharon, said she received a call

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Reply 1 - Posted by: SoSensible, 11/20/2017 9:17:34 AM     (No. 11456983)

And we paid to keep this evil alive for another 50 years for what reason?


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/20/2017 9:19:33 AM     (No. 11456988)

The satanic Manson was a lot of bad things, but he was anything but a hippie. (Hippies were essentially harmless people.) As a witness in the 1970 murder trial said, "Death was Charlie´s trip."

I have read several books on Manson, beginning with Vince Bugliosi and Kurt Gentry´s Helter Skelter, the #1 true crime book of all time. The nexus between Manson and the music industry of Southern California is another fascinating angle to Manson´s story. He and his Family lived with the Beach Boys´ Dennis Wilson until they were evicted. On 1969´s Beach Boys album 20-20 Dennis took credit for writing "Never Learn Not to Love" (originally Manson´s original "Cease to Exist"). Musical stardom was never in the cards for the moderately talented Manson, so he sought fame elsewhere. He succeeded. Rest in Hades.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Newtsche, 11/20/2017 9:36:38 AM     (No. 11457013)

Beyond the obvious, a cultural phenomenon, particularly for those around at the time. In his way, he grabbed the country by the short hairs and finally let go last night.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dvc, 11/20/2017 9:36:48 AM     (No. 11457014)

Feeling the fires now, finally. Shouls have happened long ago.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 11/20/2017 9:43:52 AM     (No. 11457030)

Eight people, he is responsible for the deaths of eight. Sharon Tate was 8 months pregnant and her baby died with her. May God have mercy on his soul.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: caddyjak, 11/20/2017 9:46:34 AM     (No. 11457035)

Some estimates are that over five million was spent on this animal´s trial and incarceration. A single 50 cent slug could have saved it all. Oh, what fools we mortals be!! Just saying.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: harleynyc, 11/20/2017 9:49:54 AM     (No. 11457040)

Back then his crimes were so shocking, but after the atrocities by today´s muslims my senses are dulled.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/20/2017 9:57:12 AM     (No. 11457053)

One less obit to look forward to reading.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 11/20/2017 9:57:16 AM     (No. 11457054)

Ironically, he lived the good life for such a vile, evil man. Food, shelter, sex all provided for by the goobernment. Imagine Hitler or Mussolini having so good after they were captured.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Safari Man, 11/20/2017 10:20:01 AM     (No. 11457081)

Hell just became a lot more dangerous.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Ribald1, 11/20/2017 10:20:15 AM     (No. 11457082)

I find the whole story fascinating, not what happened, but the response.
He killed no one, was not at the scene of any murder, yet gets a true ´life in prison´ for it while people who actually commit brutal murders get much lighter punishment.
People like Jessie Jackson, who presided over riots against jews in NY that resulted in murder get no punishment whatsoever, even though they do exactly what Manson did.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ArthurDent, 11/20/2017 10:31:06 AM     (No. 11457091)

I´m thankful we´ve stopped feeding this lowlife, finally.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/20/2017 10:31:27 AM     (No. 11457092)

Perhaps you are thinking of Sharpton.

It is true that Charlie never "Personally" killed any of these victims any more than Hitler killed any Jews...but society has a special fear of the persuasive....charismatic...homicidal nutter.

BTW----It is this same ´Fear´ that is being used against Trump. Unfairly and inappropriately but used....nonetheless.
You´ll notice that his detractors list Trump´s ´crimes´ as huge and unimaginable and massive even though they can´t list any.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ArthurDent, 11/20/2017 10:55:05 AM     (No. 11457113)

I disagree, #10, I´m sure it may smell worse, but his influence there is nothing.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: PageTurner, 11/20/2017 11:05:51 AM     (No. 11457123)

Ayers´ wife, Bernardine Dohrn, was very fond of him.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Clinger, 11/20/2017 11:47:52 AM     (No. 11457163)

Poor Charlie, he failed to incite a race war only to see late in life that Obama was able to accomplish what he only dreamed of doing.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ginadee, 11/20/2017 12:02:20 PM     (No. 11457183)

burn baby burn!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 11/20/2017 12:46:55 PM     (No. 11457222)

#2
There was talk in the day that Terry Melcher was on Manson´s hit list for declining to sign him. I wonder if Dennis Wilson, having the Beach Boys record a completely reworked version of Cease to Exist, might have saved Terry. Charlie really had Dennis going for awhile. He had 17 of his girls move in with him. Dennis was bragging all over Hollywood about his 17 girls. Like you said, he eventually booted them out.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 11/20/2017 1:15:24 PM     (No. 11457267)

In my metaphysical belief system, there is no Heaven or Hell. There is only God, who rejects all sin. Everyone, including Manson, including Adolph Hitler, were once good, innocent children in deep need of love and care. What turned them into monsters is anyone´s guess- most likely evil parents. Be that as it may, God receives us all back to His heart. But, we can only go to him as we were with the goodness that remains in us and stripped of our evil. When we get to Him, we will see and not even recognize such persons like Manson who lived mostly incredibly evil lives, for they will be as they were when they were innocent of sin- as little children. The better you live your life, the more mature your spirit is when you return to the Maker. Manson, most likely, will be merely an infant. He can share a bassinet with Adolph. Their value to God will be as nothing.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Videodrone, 11/20/2017 1:16:20 PM     (No. 11457270)

there is most likely more than the Tate & LaBianca victims.

Before Charlie moved to SoCal he and his "family" were here in Mendocino - there are some unsolved murders from that time.

We´ve had some real nice folks up here, Lake & Ing, The Moonies, Peoples Temple just to name a few.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Tulsa, 11/20/2017 1:28:55 PM     (No. 11457289)

2 Samuel 22:26 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful, and with the upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright.

manson neither taught nor showed mercy. According to scripture he shall be shown none.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: darling, 11/20/2017 1:59:26 PM     (No. 11457305)

“Any man´s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind..."

Never mind.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/20/2017 2:08:23 PM     (No. 11457314)

Re #18: In early 1969 Dennis Wilson picked up two hitchhiking Manson women (Pat Krenwinkel and Barbara Hoyt, IIRC). They spent the night with him, and when he returned home from the studio the next day, he found the entire Manson Family there, helping themselves to everything he had. He was enough of a p-hound not to object too soon. A couple of the girls were quite beautiful, especially 18-year-old Ruth Ann Moorehouse aka Ouish (as in "Ooooo-weeee"). Wilson heard all of Charlie´s songs, had several of them recorded, stole one of them for the Beach Boys, and started shopping them around.

The golden connection was Terry Melcher, a famed producer with many, many hits to his client groups´ credit. Melcher traveled to Spahn Ranch (where many Bonanza episodes were shot) to hear Charlie´s songs, but didn´t like what he heard and distanced himself from the creepy cult leader. This infuriated Manson, who threatened the lives of both Wilson and Melcher. (The theft and reworking of the song "Cease to Exist" miffed Manson, but he would have ordered the killings anyway.

I note that some seem to think that Manson was less guilty because he didn´t actually kill anyone. None of those murders would have taken place without his order. Besides the seven Tate-LaBianca victims were Gary Hinman, Shorty Shea (cut into nine pieces), and defense attorney Ronald Hughes. The godfather who orders the hit is just as guilty as the hitman.

Manson traveled to 10050 Cielo Drive, looking for Melcher, who had lived there with girlfriend Candace Bergen, but had moved. Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate were current residents, and Manson saw Sharon Tate, many months pregnant, by the pool. He was told by a photographer that Melcher no longer lived there, and that he had to leave.

A few weeks later he sent his killers back to that address.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/20/2017 4:07:33 PM     (No. 11457403)

A couple of addenda to my last reply:

Gary Hinman, a small time drug dealer and music teacher, owed Manson some money, so Manson visited Hinman´s Topanga Canyon house, and when Hinman wasn´t forthcoming with cash, Manson cut off one of his ears with a sword, and, before leaving, instructed Bobby Beausoleil to kill him. Beausoleil, quite a good guitarist, who was briefly associated with the group Love (Love´s Forever Changes is still considered one of the essential albums of 1967), stabbed Hinman to death, then he and Susan Atkins wrote "Political Piggy" on the wall in Hinman´s blood, and also left a "paw" handprint meant to implicate the Black Panthers. Beausoleil is still in prison today for that murder, which was the first of the Helter Skelter murders. The Tate-LaBianca murders were less than two weeks ahead.

Many more would have died if Susan Atkins had not opened up her mouth to two other inmates in women´s prison Sybil Brand, and given them all away. "Sexy Sadie (Atkins´s nickname given by Manson was "Sadie"), what have you done? You made a fool of everyone. You laid it down for all to see...." ("Sexy Sadie" Beatles, from Side 3 of the White Album, released 11/22/68)

The Family didn´t quite live in luxury. You can hear some of the murderers among the Manson women singing backup in the youtube video below. Melcher and Dennis Wilson relocated to safer climes shortly before Manson decided to kick off his race war. (I know, I know, 99.9% of prosecutors attempting to define "Helter Skelter" as the motive for murder should be locked up for insanity. But Bugliosi was right in his prosecution. Helter Skelter really was the motive.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1MmHGoKq1Y "Cease to Exist" (Manson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrrQ2apjVg "Never Learn Not to Love" Beach Boys live

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chicodon, 11/20/2017 4:32:26 PM     (No. 11457421)

#24
Thanks for the info. I think Beausoleil and one of the girls also landed a part in a western movie too.

There are going to be some surviving family members who will want to see the body. They are still scared to death of the crazy little wild man. Not all family members were killers but many were just hippies. They thought he would escape and come after them.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: P51dmustang, 11/20/2017 5:30:32 PM     (No. 11457463)

Now he and God can sort out what is owed by him.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/20/2017 7:45:28 PM     (No. 11457599)

From my earlier reply: "(S)ome seem to think that Manson was less guilty because he didn´t actually kill anyone."

Manson (who had previously shot a black drug dealer called Lotsapoppa in the chest with a .22 Longhorn revolver--Lotsapoppa survived) and Tex Watson entered the LaBianca residence first, and Charlie was the one who tied up Leno and Rosemary with leather thongs, telling them that they were only going to be robbed. He didn´t want any panic like the night before.

He and Linda Kasabian left the residence after telling Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel, and Leslie van Houten to kill the LaBiancas after he had left. They did, then hitch-hiked back to Spahn Ranch. Before leaving the LaBiancas´ residence they took a shower together and ate a hearty meal out of the LaBiancas´ refrigerator, including watermelon to throw law enforcement off. A wallet stolen from 3301 Waverly (the LaBiancas´ residence) wound up in a toilet in a rest room in a black neighborhood. No Black Panther recovered it or tried to use it.

After the second consecutive night of murder, the Manson Family retreated to Death Valley (Barker Ranch), where they were arrested for car theft. They were still in jail when Ronnie Hawkins (one of Susan Atkins´s cellmates) spilled her guts to the LAPD and LASO, implicating the murderers. The rest is history.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/20/2017 9:32:25 PM     (No. 11457677)

One more vignette ....

Helter Skelter?

The ending scenario of the Helter Skelter race war envisaged by Manson was as follows:

Once "Blackie" had killed all, or most, whites (inspired by Manson), he would completely take over America. But in Manson´s fevered racist mind, Blackie was not capable of governing, so Blackie would call on the Manson Family, now grown to 144,000 in the California desert (from Revelations in the New Testament) to take over. Blackie, helpless, would call on Manson and his Family to rule the world, then turn it over to them.

Manson would then (nearly a direct quote) kick Blackie in his ass, tell him to go pick cotton, and be a good ni****. Manson was as virulent a racist as any KKK member. He has taken that to eternity, and will burn for it.

Back to the narrative: On the way to earthly domination, Manson would also kill, graphically, various celebrities like Frank Sinatra (whom they fantasized hanging upside down, and skinning alive), Steve McQueen, Elizabeth Taylor, and whomever else they could find without armed security. (After Sharon Tate´s murder many celebrities started carrying weapons, or hiring armed security.)

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Reply 29 - Posted by: joew9, 11/20/2017 9:41:13 PM     (No. 11457681)

But did he sexually harass anyone in his last days? That´s the only thing we are waiting to hear, isn´t it? Sexual harassment has supplanted murder as the worst crime.



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Reply 30 - Posted by: Newtsche, 11/20/2017 11:10:05 PM     (No. 11457720)

It´s like JFK´s assassination. No way one person could pull this off.

No way one person could get so many others, mostly young girls, to do deeds so dirty -- age, drugs and that time in our nation´s history notwithstanding.

As seen from many above, those around then know the stories, they are compelling and fascinating. Bookends to the 60´s, the waves created still roll through our history.



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Franken announced last Thursday that he would be resigning “in the coming weeks” after eight different women accused him of groping or forcibly kissing them. “The timing of Franken’s resignation remains unclear, as is his motive in delaying it,” New York Magazine’s Ed Kilgore noted at the time. Franken has yet to offer any more specificity about when he’s going to follow through in resigning. Franken’s office did not return multiple requests for comment on the subject. Franken begrudgingly offered his resignation after 35 Democratic senators called on him to do so, three weeks after he was first accused

Family of Port Authority bombing suspect
is ‘outraged’ at investigators’ tactics

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New York Post, by Caroll Alvarado    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 12/11/2017 9:37:31 PM     Post Reply
The family of the alleged ISIS-inspired Port Authority bomber said they were “heartbroken” by the attack on Monday and blasted law enforcement agencies for what they claimed were heavy-handed tactics by investigators. “We are heartbroken by the violence that was targeted at our city today and by the allegations being made against a member of our family,” said the statement read by Albert Fox Cahn, the Legal Director for the NY Chapter Council for Islamic Relations. “But we’re also outraged by the behavior of the law enforcement officials who held children as small as 4 years old out in the

Trump attacks Gillibrand in tweet
critics say is sexually suggestive
and demeaning

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Washington Post, by Ashley Parker    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 12/12/2017 12:07:28 PM     Post Reply
President Trump attacked Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) in a sexually suggestive tweet Tuesday morning that implied Gillibrand would do just about anything for money, prompting a swift and immediate backlash. “Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Charles E. Schumer and someone who would come to my office ´begging´ for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump,” the president wrote. “Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!”

The actress to marry Prince Harry
is not a commoner, and neither
are you, my fellow American

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Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, by David Shribman    Original Article
Posted By: Tianne- 12/12/2017 12:38:57 PM     Post Reply
Margaret Thatcher was born one. So were predecessor Prime Ministers Benjamin Disraeli and William E. Gladstone. Diana, the princess of Wales, too. Also William Pitt, who presided over the British victory in the French and Indian War and lent his name to Pittsburgh. And, according to some university authorities four decades ago, me as well. We were all born commoners. But — despite what newspapers, websites and television stations on both sides of the Atlantic have reported with wonder and wild-eyed delight — Meghan Markle, the actor who is to marry Prince Harry, is not a commoner. She’s an American, and

Liberal Diplomat Resigns
From State Department

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PJ Media, by Michael Van Der Galien    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 12/11/2017 9:44:15 PM     Post Reply
A supposed "rising star" at the State Department has resigned in anger over President Trump´s and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson´s policies. Elizabeth Shackelford gave her resignation letter to the left-leaning Foreign Policy magazine, which was, of course, all too happy to publish it. Shackelford´s letter says she believes the new administration has abandoned human rights as a priority, and shows disdain for the State Department´s diplomatic work. "I have deep respect for the career Foreign and Civil Service staff who, despite the stinging disrespect this Administration has shown our profession, continue the struggle to keep our foreign policy on the positive

Sen. Elizabeth Warren Faces Criticism
over ‘Slut-Shaming’ Tweet

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Breitbart.com, by Charlie Nash    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 12/12/2017 3:55:27 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) faced criticism for saying that President Donald Trump “slut-shamed” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) with a non-sexual insult, Tuesday. After President Donald Trump made a post on Twitter claiming that Sen. Gillibrand “would do anything” for campaign contributions, Sen. Warren made her own post accusing Trump of “slut-shaming.” “Are you really trying to bully, intimidate and slut-shame @SenGillibrand?” asked Sen. Warren in her post. “Do you know who you’re picking a fight with? Good luck with that, @realDonaldTrump. Nevertheless, #shepersisted.” Are you really trying to bully, intimidate and slut-shame @SenGillibrand? Do you know who you´re picking a fight with? Good

End chain migration NOW demands Trump
after New York´s failed terror attacker
revealed to be part of large family
who all got in thanks to his aunt or uncle

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Daily Mail [UK], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 12/11/2017 9:56:03 PM     Post Reply
President Donald Trump said Monday a bomb blast in Manhattan highlights the need for an immigration overhaul - as the man arrested was revealed to be part of a large Bangladeshi family sponsored by his aunt or uncle. Trump said that the U.S. ´must fix its lax immigration system, which allows far too many dangerous, inadequately vetted people´ into the country. The Republican president pointed to his controversial travel ban as an example of the kind of policy that needs to be put in place. And he called on Congress to end ´chain migration,´ in which family members are permitted to join relatives

One Mueller-Investigation Coincidence Too Many
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 12/12/2017 5:02:04 AM     Post Reply
Special prosecutors, investigators, and counsels are usually a bad idea. They are admissions that constitutionally mandated institutions don’t work — and can be rescued only by supposed superhuman moralists, who are without the innate biases inherent in human nature. The record from Lawrence Walsh to Ken Starr to Patrick Fitzgerald suggests otherwise. Originally narrow mandates inevitably expand — on the cynical theory that everyone has something embarrassing to hide. Promised “short” timelines and limited budgets are quickly forgotten. Prosecutors search for ever new crimes to justify the expense and public expectations of the special-counsel appointment. Soon the investigators need to

Former top spy rethinks: Maybe we
shouldn´t have attacked a new president

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Washington Examiner [DC], by Byron York    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 12/12/2017 5:05:17 AM     Post Reply
"Mr. Trump continues to exhibit paranoia about American intelligence agencies," wrote the NeverTrump conservative Max Boot in the New York Times a week or so before the president took office. "Consumed by his paranoia about the deep state, Donald Trump has disappeared into the fog of his own conspiracy theories," declared the Times´ Maureen Dowd. "Paranoia seizes Trump´s White House," reported Politico, noting the suspicion that "career intelligence operatives are working to undermine the new president." Actually, they were. "It´s no mystery why Trump doesn´t trust U.S. intelligence agencies," Bloomberg´s Eli Lake wrote last month. "As the old saying goes:


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