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What if Ken Starr was Right?
New York Times, by Ross Douthat

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Posted By:FlyRight, 11/19/2017 7:04:34 AM

In the longstanding liberal narrative about Bill Clinton and his scandals, the one pushed by Clinton courtiers and ratified in media coverage of his post-presidency, our 42nd president was only guilty of being a horndog, his affairs were nobody’s business but his family’s, and oral sex with Monica Lewinsky was a small thing that should never have put his presidency in peril. That narrative could not survive the current wave of outrage over male sexual misconduct. So now a new one may be forming for the age of Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump. In this story, Kenneth Starr and the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 11/19/2017 7:25:27 AM     (No. 11456148)

I get it. The left wants to throw BJ and Billary under the bus, as jettisoning this vermin will make it all right for the other dim perverts such as Frankie and Weinstein et al. Remember Algore´s porn career? The Wiener man from New York? And the Menendez thing. Where does it stop, lefties? But, the Moore meme will be allowed to go on. Why? To get Senate control and to get Trump.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 11/19/2017 7:47:05 AM     (No. 11456164)

The Clinton impeachment was not "all about sex." It was all about the ongoing corruption of the Clinton presidency, including the sale of American technology to our enemies.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: strike3, 11/19/2017 7:51:03 AM     (No. 11456170)

If it´s coming from the New York Times it has a purpose other than to report the news.

Those of us who lived through the nineties and follow politics, some of us daily on as we do today, knew that the Clintons were dirtbags and didn´t want them anywhere near the White House.

Thanks to a brave Lucianne for getting Monica to spill the story and take the heat for exposing the truth on the incident that exposed the Horndog to the entire world and exposed the liberal left for the hypocrites that we know them to be.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/19/2017 7:52:42 AM     (No. 11456171)

Readying Bubba to go under the bus so that they will have a clear run at any Republicans in the future? He has been a major sticking point when their oppo research would turn up or manufacture Republican misdeeds...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/19/2017 7:54:51 AM     (No. 11456174)

Impeachment was about perjury, suborning perjury and obstruction of justice. The left wanted to make it all about sex because they considered sex to be no big deal. “It’s his private life”. They pushed it so hard that hundreds of thousands of Americans still believe he was impeached for the Lewinski affair.

And Illary, the enabler, is still at it - making hay about Moore, trying to absolve Franken and still not a peep about her husband.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gone2pot, 11/19/2017 7:57:32 AM     (No. 11456175)

That narrative could not survive the current wave of outrage over male sexual misconduct.

I wonder why it did NYT, LAT, WaPo, CNN and EVERY TV news outlet?

And let´s see why it won´t now in 3,2,1...

So now a new one may be forming for the age of Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump

I know I´m super spit balling here but is it possible that the entertainment-media-education complex, the GOP, and of course the Marxists are doing EVERYTHING they can to get Trump impeached? We won´t really know until Sleuth-apalooza Howie Kurtz "breaks" the news two years after it´s patently obvious or a year after Trump gets impeached, whichever occurs first.

Gosh, how do I know that?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: OBX Pete, 11/19/2017 8:15:34 AM     (No. 11456194)

If memory serves me right Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex with that woman, fatso, in the Oral office but because he lied to a Grand Jury.

I´m waiting for someone to write a book exposing ALL of the illegal things this couple has done (it may take more than one or two volumes) and maybe call it "The Clintons...A Family of Layers and Liars" !!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: judy, 11/19/2017 8:26:50 AM     (No. 11456204)

Anybody with an ounce of sense knows dems don´t do anything unless it´s planned against Trump. I find it soooo odd the dems are going after their own. It´s obvious they are leading to some fake slime on Trump. I am very concerned Schumer pushed Sessions out, Schmitt pushed Nunes out and god only knows where it will lead. I find it amazing all these democrat sexual situations come to the surface. I blame Sessions for allowing this to get this far. I would have fired him the minute he withdrew & gave the JD to democrats Rosenstein, McCabe & Mueller.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Velox, 11/19/2017 8:27:40 AM     (No. 11456205)

Post 5 is correct
Clinton’s impeachment had nothing to do with his sexual conduct.
The impeachment never even ,entionef Lewinsky.
He was sued by a women he raped.
He testified under oath and perjured himself.
He then tried to force people under him to vomit perjury also.
Perjury is a major crime. Many people serve years in jail for what he was charge with.
I hated the Clinton’s but felt a civil trial served on a sitting president should not have been allowed until he left office. The courts allowed it to proceed and the rest is history.
Hillary came up with the plan to make it all about sex.
Like good communist The press repeated that party line over and over again until a lie was burnt into LOFOs and left wing zealots heads.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/19/2017 8:34:33 AM     (No. 11456211)

Ken Starr got the same raw deal as did McCarthy. The "Verona Papers" showed McCarthy (many years too late)to have been not only correct but heroic in his thankless business of uncovering Marxist entrenchment in our government. Dollar Bill was too much a scoundrel to be much of a Marxist and his wife plied the family business without the much needed charm.

Obama, however, was born and bread to hate America both as a threat to the "Common Wheel" and as "Haram", in all manner a threat to his Sacred Islam.

True, loyal, LIBERTY loving Americans have been put through the RINGER and hung out to dry by the Leftists in our midst. The massive productive / creative capacities of capitalism have drawn Marxists like Buzzards to a road kill and they still do.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Quigley, 11/19/2017 8:48:31 AM     (No. 11456223)

Ross, now that you’ve admitted your complicitness in the DimoKrap Rape Room enterprise, resign.

And by the way, I believe your article avoided the most damning to you line of reasoning. Still a shill.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/19/2017 8:50:48 AM     (No. 11456225)

In the 90s, I despised the Clintons, not for Bill´s horndog antics, but for the corruption and filth they brought to the White House - selling nights in the Lincoln Bedroom, obscene ornaments on the WH Christmas tree, questionable fundraising "teas," and so on.

We dodged a bullet that Billy Jeff wasn´t forced to resign, because Al Gore would have run as an incumbent and probably won. While GWB was no prize, he was at least a marginal improvement over Gore.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TOOTALL, 11/19/2017 9:22:48 AM     (No. 11456254)

This whole thing is a setup. By throwing Slick Willy under the bus, they can NOW justify removing any Conservative they want simply by allegations by Bexos´ WaPost! Wake up. Things are about to get much worse. And they´re coming after the President! You can bet on it!

This is not beangag, or checkers. Think two or three moves out, and you can see what is happening. Do you think Donna Brazille would even betray the Progressive movement?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Envirodude, 11/19/2017 9:39:41 AM     (No. 11456268)

We should be thankful that the democrats have no morality or refused to hold the Clintons to higher ethical standards. Had they done so, then Al Gorebot would have been president and surely carried his home state of TN or even FL.

Could you imagine him being in charge after 9/11?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 11/19/2017 9:58:07 AM     (No. 11456282)

This Slimes article is the official imprimatur for leftists everywhere to dump on Master B. Clinton and The Beast.

But folks - - never forget - - never ever forget - - the worst crime of all committed by the criminal Klintoons. Namely - - - - Waco.

Think deeply about what happened then. The president of the USA authorized the use of deadly military weapons against a private apartment house full of women and children who had not even been accused of a crime - - much less ever committed one.

The sight of a tank and heavy military armaments and ninja-clad jackboots invading that private dwelling still makes me sick. And should horrify all Americans forever.

Waco was a monstrous crime - - committed by a sitting president. Never forget that.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: laotzu, 11/19/2017 10:09:24 AM     (No. 11456291)

Two thoughts:

1. The comments to the original article are a treasure trove of convoluted, Leftist, nonsensical thinking. Whether it be major factual misstatements or persistent support for the libertine over liberty, you can find it all there. They would make for a great class at Liberty University -- A Study in Political Mass Delusion.

2. It´s hard to watch the the Left and not believe in magic. How does the party of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, re-segregation, destruction of the black family, and the Ku Klux Klan so confidently wear the mantel of moral superiority? Can anyone name just one major enterprise/program of the Right that stands head and shoulders with the Left´s atrocities? And yet we are the immoral, selfish ones.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: Muguy, 11/19/2017 10:18:45 AM     (No. 11456302)

People seem to forget this FACT-- Before leaving office, BJ Clinton admitted in writing to Prosscutor Ray (who took over for Ken Staff) that he DID IN FACT suborn perjury, and violated a gag order, and DID do many other things, because it was part of a plea deal.

He was going to be prosecuted for those crimes after he left office and no longer had the protection of Executive priviledge if he didn´t.

HE ADMITTED IN WRITING HE WAS GUILTY of crimes, and it was not in fact about Monica, it was about Whitewater and if BJ hadn´t been so popular and 1/3 of the Senate was not up for re-election, he likely would have been convicted in the Impeachment trial in the Senate.

(It would be interesting to check back to see HOW MANY are STILL in there who voted to save him). In hindsight, he and Madam Broomstick have ALWAYS gotten a pass for crimes committed and SOMEONE ELSE is taking the fall for them. Poor Susan McDougal--she served time, and Huma walks free

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicubby, 11/19/2017 10:34:40 AM     (No. 11456309)

# 12 and 14-- I couldn´t agree more. If Clinton had resigned I´m sure Gore would have won the Presidency in 2000. I shutter to think about it.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Hazymac, 11/19/2017 11:32:50 AM     (No. 11456361)

#12, 14, and 18 have arrived at the uncomfortable truth about the impeachment but not removal of Clinton. Yes, removing Clinton would have been the moral thing to do--would it ever have been!--although the 67 Senate votes for removal weren´t about to happen. Far too many Democrats.

In any case, as I have said here repeatedly, it was better for Republicans to have had a politically damaged Clinton still in office rather than an incumbent Gore, who, freed of the Clintons, would have won in 2000 with the incumbency, and maybe in 2004 as well. As mediocre as both Bushes were, they weren´t the worst we could have done, and sometimes that´s the only choice we have. (Obama was everything bad Gore and Kerry might have been, and then some.)

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Miss Lamb Chop, 11/19/2017 11:33:36 AM     (No. 11456363)

This is a set up by the establishment on both sides of the aisle yo enable the imoeachment of President Trump in 2018. Moore needs to win. The establishment needs to understand: We are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. The swamp will get drained and Trump is our man.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Caveman, 11/19/2017 11:46:55 AM     (No. 11456378)

The late Senator Fred Thompson is on record stating that he voted against booting the horndog, because it would have allowed Algore to become the incumbent in the next election.
If Gorebot would have been elected, Hilbag would be your current 5th. term President since 60% of the population would be amnestied illegals.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Lucky5, 11/19/2017 12:36:15 PM     (No. 11456415)

Have no doubt. This is the lefts new way to go after President Trump again. The Russia thing is a failure, and now they want to go after him for the women who accused him of sexual something. I do not even remember what those women said. Modo´d article today, is quite gag worthy. She says women were so made when Trump won, that they all decided to tell the truth about sexual harassment, since a abuser is in the WH!! The left is so twisted.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 11/19/2017 1:47:36 PM     (No. 11456453)

So many seem worried that this is a set-up to get Trump. If he´s not guilty of anything, he has no worries. I´m just glad they are finally going after the crooked, disgusting Clintons.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Penney, 11/19/2017 2:54:46 PM     (No. 11456482)

Everyone knew exactly what the Clintons were. The difference between the dem party and the GOP party remains basically the same: The dem party leadership doesn´t care about pesky legalities & the confines of the Constitution, -much less personal ethics, morality, and oaths of office, but to most in the GOP, they do matter. They also matter to Americans who entrust the country´s elected officials with our votes. ...Lately too many pols have proved sorely disappointing in that trust area!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 11/19/2017 6:22:31 PM     (No. 11456619)

If Trump is not guilty of anything, he has nothing to worry about?


That´s probably the dumbest thing yet said by a source of countless inane utterances.

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Short of impeaching President Trump, does anything excite Democrats, the Resistance, and NeverTrumpers like the prospect of the president firing special counsel Robert Mueller? Firing Mueller would, or course, be the quickest way for Trump to get impeached, which might explain a certain air of anticipation in discussions of whether — some prefer to say when -- Trump will sack the prosecutor leading the Trump-Russia investigation.There has been a lot of news and commentary recently interpreting criticism of Mueller by a number of pro-Trump media voices as an effort to encourage Trump to fire Mueller, or lay the groundwork for

California gov: Trump doesn’t fear
God or ‘existential consequences’

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Julia Manchester    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 12/9/2017 10:35:14 AM     Post Reply
California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) says President Trump´s stance on climate change demonstrates that he does not appear to fear the "wrath of God" or have any regard for the "existential consequences" of his climate change policies. “I don’t think President Trump has a fear of the Lord, the fear of the wrath of God, which leads one to more humility ... this is such a reckless disregard for the truth and for the existential consequences that can be unleashed,” Brown said in an interview on CBS´s "60 Minutes," which is set to air on Sunday. Brown, who previously studied to become

Alabama Sen. Shelby: ‘I couldn’t
vote for Roy Moore’

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CNN Wires, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 12/10/2017 12:09:02 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Richard Shelby says he wants a Republican elected to the Senate on Tuesday to represent Alabama, but that he didn’t vote for GOP candidate Roy Moore in the special election. The Alabama Republican said he’s already cast his ballot, and that he chose a write-in candidate. “I’d rather see the Republican win, but I’d rather see a Republican write-in. I couldn’t vote for Roy Moore. I didn’t vote for Roy Moore,” Shelby told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.” Moore has been accused of pursuing sexual relationships with teenagers when he was in his 30s. In some

Maybe Trump needs emergency
brain repair after slurred speech

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NY Daily News, by Linda Stasi    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 12/9/2017 11:17:50 PM     Post Reply
Loose dentures? More like loose screws. Donald Trump was slurring his words pretty good last week for a guy who fancied himself an expert when it came to Hillary Clinton’s alleged brain damage. What would he make of his own slurred speech and bizarre behavior? brain tumor from the weight of that massive combover sitting on top of his head like a live farm animal? Simply slurred speech because his thoughts are so fantastic that his mouth can’t keep up?

Inside Trump´s Hour-by-Hour
Battle for Self-Preservation

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New York Times, by Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 12/9/2017 1:49:27 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Around 5:30 each morning, President Trump wakes and tunes into the television in the White House’s master bedroom. He flips to CNN for news, moves to “Fox & Friends” for comfort and messaging ideas, and sometimes watches MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” because, friends suspect, it fires him up for the day. Energized, infuriated — often a gumbo of both — Mr. Trump grabs his iPhone. Sometimes he tweets while propped on his pillow, according to aides. Other times he tweets from the den next door, watching another television. Less frequently, he makes his way up the hall to the


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