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On the ´Vulgar Manliness´ of Donald Trump
American Thinker, by Peter Nichols

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Posted By:JoniTx, 10/12/2017 9:24:06 AM

In “The Vulgar Manliness of Donald Trump,” Harvard Professor of Government Harvey Mansfield depicts the President as a demagogue -- precisely the sort of crass figure whose rise to power the Founders wished to forestall. The theoretical underpinning of the article, the concept of “manliness” itself, receives its full expostulation in Professor Mansfield’s book, Manliness (Yale University Press, 2006). We are unable to go into that rich and learned work here. Suffice it to quote from the book’s preface, “Manliness seeks and welcomes drama and prefers times of war, conflict, and risk.” But it is “about fifty-fifty good and bad.”

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: BillW., 10/12/2017 9:36:24 AM     (No. 11414437)

FTA: The worst aspect of Trump’s campaign, in Mansfield’s view, appears to be his encouragement of the base tendencies of his supporters -- just the sort of louts who delight at his “lack of good taste, of good manners, of gentlemanliness, of protocol, and of tact.”

like ol´ Harvey Weinstein and Billy Boy Clinton?

These lefties are quite something.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/12/2017 9:38:15 AM     (No. 11414439)

To the dainty professors at Harvard, sniffing into their lace-trimmed handkerchiefs, the real manliness of a Donald Trump has to scare the daylights out of them.

We’ve been down the “vulgar” road before. His daughter characterized him with one word: “blunt”, which my dictionary defines as “uncompromisingly forthright". More accurate than “vulgar”, which means “lacking sophistication or good taste”. A Harvard prof should know better..

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/12/2017 9:39:34 AM     (No. 11414445)

PS. Mansfield doesn’t sound as though he knows much about manliness. Deals in stereotypes.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: nimby, 10/12/2017 9:41:06 AM     (No. 11414451)

Billy Bob Clinton is the epitomy of "vulgar manliness"

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Mushroom, 10/12/2017 9:45:40 AM     (No. 11414460)

Without we rough men there would be no country. Someone has to do the dirty work around here.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/12/2017 9:48:58 AM     (No. 11414465)

Trump is vulgar because of his insecurities.

America Never Stopped Being Great

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Watlines, 10/12/2017 9:50:43 AM     (No. 11414467)

How does President Harvey Mansfield sound to ya?

Or Barack Obama?


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Reply 8 - Posted by: starboard, 10/12/2017 9:58:06 AM     (No. 11414476)

Manliness is subjective. We all have our own opinions of what it is. As a women, a man is someone who has courage to stand up to do the right thing and not afraid of the consequences. Vulgarity is someone who blatantly lies to you and says you can keep your doctor or gives Iran 150 Billion dollars of taxpayer money; or he bombs an aspirin factory in the Sudan, or he points his finger at the American people and says...you know the rest.

Obviously, President Trump is one of a kind and doesn´t fit the mold, BUT People trust him to do the right thing for the American people and Make America Great Again.
And that´s manly in my book.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: Shucky, 10/12/2017 10:17:37 AM     (No. 11414492)

Hurricane Harvey, Harvey Weinstein, and Harvey Mansfield at Harvard. Har-dee-har-har, it´s the year of the Harvey.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lana720, 10/12/2017 10:34:22 AM     (No. 11414506)

Hogwash! People yearn for straight talk. "Blunt" and above all, honesty are perfect virtues.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: FormerDem, 10/12/2017 10:38:46 AM     (No. 11414508)

isn´t the word vulgar in itself an ethnic slur, based on a nationality? doesn´t it appear in likelihood to have originated at a time when one ethnicity was economically disadvantaged in the English-speaking context? shouldn´t it be barred from polite talk? Let us each raise an eyebrow and purse our lips in reproach.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: horacer, 10/12/2017 10:39:57 AM     (No. 11414509)

Thank you #8.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 10/12/2017 10:46:52 AM     (No. 11414522)

If you need someone to pull you out of a flooded home or dig you out of a collapsed building who do you want? a vulgar man or the cocoa sipping pajama boy?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/12/2017 11:06:35 AM     (No. 11414553)

It´s amazing how a person´s point o view can completely warp their perception. Mansfield, supposedly educated person, neatly lays out the "definitions" of various unsavory personalities, like a demagogue and then happily lumps Trump in with them. Why? Because it is Mansfield´s opinion that it is so.

As Nichols points out, the attributes Mansfield despises more clearly fit BO, Hillary, dems, and Liberals in general than they do Trump. Trump has said, Let´s live by the rule of laws; laws passed by the elected representatives of the People. That´s the way the Country was set up. Liberals don´t like that because they can´t force through things they want. Then they, as per BO, sneak things through behind the scenes in defiance of law. BO´s unlawful actions are far more vulgar than anything Trump has done.

This is the danger of liberal academics. They use their position to promote distortions and lies in pursuit of an agenda that has nothing to do with truth.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 10/12/2017 11:10:59 AM     (No. 11414562)

All manliness is vulgar in the eyes of effete progressives.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 10/12/2017 11:24:24 AM     (No. 11414578)

I guess everyone has their own cringe alarm.
I used to cringe every time I saw our last president throw a ball, run, cross his legs or put his middle finger on his cheekbone.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Clinger, 10/12/2017 12:20:28 PM     (No. 11414627)

I find nothing manly about Trumps vulgarity. I also don´t think social decor is a high priority when our country is being driven into the scrap heap of Marxist tragedies. I do find plenty of manliness in telling us directly what he intended to do if her were to be elected then going on to his level best to do just that once elected.

I find manliness in the courage to go against the tide of political correctness subjecting himself to Alinsky inspired ridicule. His going toe to toe with the media shows manly courage even if at times he is vulgar in his methods.

Give me a vulgar POTUS fighting to rescue our nation from the drift to Marxism, keeping his word to cut taxes repeal Obamacare, fight disparate trade policies, control our borders any day opposed to a slick cool talking marxist phoney who took an oath he promptly did his level best to break.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dvc, 10/12/2017 1:09:52 PM     (No. 11414692)

oh, my goodness.

They don´t seem to like The Donald. What ever will we do?

Big middle finger to the Harvard selfp-proclaimed elites, only elite in their smarmy, self-referential elitism, not because they have actually done anything which is markedly superior in results.

Not buying what they are selling.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 10/12/2017 3:06:30 PM     (No. 11414784)

I keep thinking about President Reagan. His manliness was not mean spirited as he put people in their places as needed. He didn´t resort to personal insults like how short they were or how dumb they were. He didn´t let the little stuff get to him. He just kept doing his job with a smile on his face, and he was hated by the press and liberals too. I wish all the presidents were like that.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: TXknitter, 10/12/2017 3:16:41 PM     (No. 11414795)

President Reagan had so many stellar character traits, #19, it is so true. However, he was not perfect. He made his share of errors. Giving in to the Rockefeller Republican crowd and picking Bush for his VP turned out to be a significant error. This isn’t that kinder gentler time of the 1980’s. Reagan didn’t have his party joining Democrats to remove him from office nor did he have Alinsky-educated leftists in every branch of government engaging in lawbreaking up to and including treason to deal with either.


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