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Electric Car Putsch?
American Spectator, by Eric Peters

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Posted By:mc squared, 10/10/2017 10:44:44 AM

It’s not just the government that’s pushing electric cars. The media is equally complicit. Both are engaged in what has to be described as nothing less than a concerted propaganda onslaught to convince the public that the naked emperor is indeed wearing a suit of the finest materials available. But the question — why? — remains mysterious. What is so important — to them — about electric cars? Why the urgency to create the impression of inevitability? The media, in particular, seems to be obsessed with this — even to the point of exaggerating the confected enthusiasm for electric cars

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Technology is nowhere near making an EV that can be charged in 5 minutes, almost anywhere that will get you 300+ miles on a ´fill up´.
Like most things liberals dream about, the EV is just their way of sticking it to the ´man´.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 10/10/2017 10:53:40 AM     (No. 11411884)

No more nuclear plants, the left wants to ban all coal burning - just where are we going to find the generating capacity to charge all of these vehicles?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: harper, 10/10/2017 11:06:28 AM     (No. 11411895)

Without more major breakthroughs in battery technology, the future of the coal-powered vehicle is dim.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/10/2017 11:16:08 AM     (No. 11411906)

I suspect the reason for this is that electric vehicles will price the poor out of the car market. Which was also the reason behind cash-for-clunkers. The latter removed a lot of vehicles from the low end of the used automobile market, driving up the prices of all remaining vehicles.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: postaway, 10/10/2017 11:19:27 AM     (No. 11411907)

Why are the media and the "government" (read elites collecting copious amounts of taxpayer money to Think Great Thoughts which are actually downright stupid thoughts) pushing electric cars? Because everyone would have to buy absolutely everything to do with personal transportation all over again AND because these cars are so inefficient. Hence, there is gold in them thar hills and the free movement of people will be drastically hobbled.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Smart11344, 10/10/2017 11:24:32 AM     (No. 11411910)

The left will want us to use candles to light and heat our homes. I wish I could use all the words, barring been banned from this site, so, just imagine!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: TennDon, 10/10/2017 11:25:15 AM     (No. 11411911)



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Reply 7 - Posted by: TennDon, 10/10/2017 11:32:32 AM     (No. 11411921)

OP commented “Like most things liberals dream about, the EV is just their way of sticking it to the ´man´.“

Nope. The Man is “The Man in Charge”, i.e., the Government.

You should say “...sticking it to the common man.”

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Reply 8 - Posted by: rinohunter, 10/10/2017 11:33:16 AM     (No. 11411922)

Let´s not forget goobermint subsidized solar panels and wind turbines.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: GrandmaP, 10/10/2017 11:40:51 AM     (No. 11411937)

#1, I believe your statement is at the root of the problem with mass production of EVs.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: tnorling, 10/10/2017 11:41:33 AM     (No. 11411940)

All good points above regarding the idiocy and inanity of the left on this subject. What does one expect, of course, from leftists who prefer to drive vehicles whose power is often generated by coal? The intellectual acuity and brilliance of the left is vastly overstated (see: Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc. etc.).

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Reply 11 - Posted by: thomthomp, 10/10/2017 11:48:46 AM     (No. 11411952)

Liberalism is a religion (or cult), "climate change" is part of the catechism and electric cars are a totem. It´s all based on faith, and facts,evidence and logic have no place.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: WD40, 10/10/2017 11:58:07 AM     (No. 11411967)

A hybrid electric vehicle that could be used as backup power for your home would be cool. Pure EV, no thanks.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: dvc, 10/10/2017 12:00:22 PM     (No. 11411969)

No electric car for me. Even my golf cart is gasoline powered.

For my research project for my master´s degree in engineering, I was part of a five person team who designed, built and tested a hybrid electric vehicle in the early ´70s. I was the primary designer, selecting the size and type of batteries, the engine and generator to make up the second hybrid vehicles in this country, after the smaller one another team of grad students had finished a year earlier. Electric vehicles is an area where I have some expertise.

I do not own a hybrid car, even though they have been pretty much perfected. Too expensive, too complex, too---just unnecessary. But hybrids work, because they have a gasoline engine powering all the expensive complexity.

Electric vehicles are very expensive, have a short range, take many hours and a special power station to ´refuel´. Anyone who uses their care for interstate travel, or to go on vacation trips would find them nearly useless.

Perhaps 5-10% of people in this country live in a city and never travel far, and never to to unplanned destinations, so would be satisfied with an electric. The rest don´t and won´t want them, but the ecoNazis are starting to insist, even though it makes zero sense economically or functionally.
The author correctly points out that the non-existent and very expensive to build charging station infrastructure, and the expensive battery replacement are monstrous costs being hidden from the public. Also note that the faster you charge a battery, the fewer charge cycles before the battery must be replaced, a little known problem.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: plex, 10/10/2017 12:11:35 PM     (No. 11411979)

The public is being led to believe that windmills and solar panels will provide the electricity for these electric cars. The idea of charging 20 million cars with California already suffering rolling brownouts is beyond comprehension. Too bad if you want to charge your car at night (no sun) on a calm day (no wind) even if you need to get to the hospital in the morning.

I think that the dim bulbs who think up these dreams of electric cars believe that "public transport" is the solution to long distance (out of the city) travel.

I think the proposal was to ban the sale of non-electric cars. There will be gas powered cars in California forever and a booming business in keeping them running.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 10/10/2017 12:11:44 PM     (No. 11411980)

If you were a government control freak, wouldn´t it be nice to have all the citizens dependent upon a transportation system that is controlled by a switch and you control the switch?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: arcady, 10/10/2017 12:24:31 PM     (No. 11412000)

Agree with all the above. Take away all their tax breaks! Why should we be paying for mostly useless, redundant, technology for coastal liberals.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: hotcorner, 10/10/2017 12:43:53 PM     (No. 11412027)

Electric cars are coal cars - liberals never tell you that.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/10/2017 12:55:22 PM     (No. 11412035)

Rebuild Puerto with electric vehicles!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 10/10/2017 12:55:45 PM     (No. 11412036)

This is being brought to you by the same morons who worship at the altar of Climate Change, where inconvenient truths are ignored and supporting "facts" are created out of whole cloth all in the name of pushing their agenda.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 10/10/2017 1:44:42 PM     (No. 11412091)

well, Voyager has been running on a battery for 40 years now without a single recharge. It would mean a chunk of plutonium in every car, but.....

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Historybuff, 10/10/2017 1:49:53 PM     (No. 11412097)

"It’s not just the government that’s pushing electric cars. The media is equally complicit."

If you buy one, you will be pushing it too!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Jerseyden, 10/10/2017 2:18:40 PM     (No. 11412127)

The last few hurricanes we had that dropped power lines and kept people without power for weeks had to look with envy at their neighbors who had power. They had gas yes gas powered generators. Lesson to be learned is make sure you have backup whenever relying on electric power.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: greatGreyhounds, 10/10/2017 2:25:31 PM     (No. 11412140)

When I can pull my 16,000 pound fifth wheel RV, then I might consider it...

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Reply 24 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/10/2017 2:32:07 PM     (No. 11412148)

The fools pushing for eliminating all internal combustion engine vehicles think that the electricity will be supplied by pixie dust and unicorn farts.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: dvc, 10/10/2017 3:49:36 PM     (No. 11412260)

#20, at peak Voyager´s plutonium power pack put out under 500 watts, would power a small moped at maybe 35 mph. It now puts out much less.

And instead of jihadis buying up fireworks and pressure cookers, they would buy plutonium power packs. No way that could go wrong.

Oh, yeah, and if you think normal lithium batteries are expensive.....my bet is that a plutonium power pack would cost a few million each.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: grounded, 10/10/2017 5:11:20 PM     (No. 11412362)

My So-Cal based broker is always yakking about all the Teslas running around in his part of the world. I recently told him that I spied my first Tesla the other day. It was going down the interstate on a trailer being towed by a pickup truck.

Electric golf carts and battery powered shopping carts hauling lardasses around at Walmart I can relate to. Driving from Vegas to Reno in a electric car: impossible.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: john56, 10/10/2017 5:31:56 PM     (No. 11412386)

El Rushbo quoted some article yesterday about the infrastructure needed to power electric cars.

You´d need a recharging station capable of handling as many as 600 cars at a time (based on the number of cars that fuel at an average gas station), and each station would need the generating power of 20,000 homes at peak electrical demand.

Cost to build the stations would be in the tens of millions of dollars PER STATION.

So next time you drive home, count all the gas stations and multiply it by 600 stalls and $50 million or so. Plus the generating capacity (in coal or natural gas fired power plants and the infrastructure cost of those items) to replace that old, terrible fossil fuel (oil).

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Reply 28 - Posted by: clipped wings, 10/11/2017 1:38:25 PM     (No. 11413484)

Maybe it´s tinfoil hat time, but what if the only car allowed to the deplorable plebs was a puny electric? What if the "elite" masters controlled the power switch? What if the "rulers" were the only ones allowed to have internal combustion cars?
The "little people" would then be more easily controlled and kept to a limited base, while the "elite" would be mobile
One can extrapolate a dictatorship of mobility.


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Posted By: KarenJ1- 1/22/2018 12:27:25 PM     Post Reply
Calling the Trump administration’s tax reform plan a “middle-class tax increase,” two California lawmakers introduced a bill that would force large companies to fork over half of their expected savings to the state. Assemblymen Kevin McCarty and Phil Ting, both Democrats, introduced Assembly Constitutional Amendment 22, which calls for a 10 percent surcharge on companies with a net earnings over $1 million. The plan could potentially raise billions for the state´s social services programs. “It is unconscionable to force working families to pay the price for tax breaks and loopholes benefiting corporations and wealthy individuals,” Ting said in a statement,


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