A Message From Lucianne  

S-CR-TEO

S-ADI-01






ST-GC
   
 
Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


B-CR-TEO
Flying Coach Is So Cramped
It Could Be a Death Trap

Daily Beast, by Clive Irving

Original Article

Posted By:Drive, 9/13/2017 11:11:05 AM

As airlines pack seats tighter than ever, the tests supposed to show that passengers can get out alive in a crash are woefully out of date. The FAA won’t make the results public, and a court warns there is “a plausible life-and-death safety concern.” For years the airlines have been allowed to steadily shrink the size of coach class seats and the space between seat rows without regulators considering the impact of this on safety. A Daily Beast investigation has found: • The tests carried out to ensure that all the passengers can safely exit a cabin in an emergency are dangerously

      


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: greggojo, 9/13/2017 11:24:16 AM     (No. 11382113)

I´m sure I´d change my mind if I were involved in a runway crash, but common sense tells you that you´re going to get killed in any crash that occurs in the air, even if they doubled or halved the number of seats. Also, it seems somehow hypocritical to bring these suits, when by packing so many of us into their planes, airlines have managed, in spite of the additional taxes and fees and zillions of regulations imposed by various municipalities and the feds, to keep travel affordable for most Americans.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    16 persons like this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 9/13/2017 11:35:18 AM     (No. 11382122)

In a crash you might be better off with less room. An evacuation is another matter. Several years ago I was on a flight and measured the distance from the front of my seat to the back of the seat in front. It was 7 inches. That is not enough room for an adult.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    42 persons like this.


   

 

    
R-LU-C1-New-Sek
R-LU-C1-New-Sek
  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: chillijilli, 9/13/2017 11:36:52 AM     (No. 11382125)

Just returned from a many-legged trip on American. On 1 of the newer planes, the bathroom was literally so small I could NOT turn around in it and I am not a big person. I had to stand facing the door and bend my body sideways to wash my hands. When I left, I asked the flight attendant if there are passengers who simply can´t use the toilet and she told me nearly ½ had trouble and maybe ¼ were "really uncomfortable."
By minimizing the bathroom size, American was able to fit in 1 more row of seats. In case of emergency, there would´ve been NO way to exit the plane in the rear because the only place to park the drink carts was by the rear door.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    28 persons like this.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Uno, 9/13/2017 12:24:07 PM     (No. 11382170)

Not only that, but ya get a free crotch inspection from the TSA (who have yet to catch a terrorist) in the deal!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    16 persons like this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: starsNstripes, 9/13/2017 12:27:49 PM     (No. 11382173)

Hey #1, you are right, in a crash it wouldn´t so much matter. Where the real danger occurs is an on-ground emergency like a fire. There is simply no way to evacuate a plane with this limited space and maximum people efficiently and safely. Not enough room during a panic.

Laptop and phone batteries are a real threat (many articles written about this...see Samsung).

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    26 persons like this.


Reply 6 - Posted by: tennman, 9/13/2017 12:52:50 PM     (No. 11382189)

And reading the Daily Beast causes brain cells to die.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    35 persons like this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 9/13/2017 1:35:38 PM     (No. 11382243)

And then there is the natural resentment of someone overhanging half the space you are assigned to sit in. Really, no one above 145 lbs should be allowed to fly.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    12 persons like this.


   

 

R-TA-Wide_2
  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 9/13/2017 2:12:22 PM     (No. 11382304)

We had one short trip and return several years ago when a family member died suddenly.

The End.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    11 persons like this.


Reply 9 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 9/13/2017 2:43:20 PM     (No. 11382346)

Last time I flew coach, my knees were jammed into the seat into front of me, and I´m only 6´1". I was constantly adjusting my position. It was pure misery. I do not fly coach anymore.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    19 persons like this.


Reply 10 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 9/13/2017 3:27:56 PM     (No. 11382380)

Same here, #9. We have been flying coach so we could economize and spend the savings on actual vacation time. No longer. Coach is almost impossible for me to suffer anymore. Went to France on Air France two years ago. Seven and a half hours....horrible, uncomfortable, jammed up in a too small seat. Never again. All this after the hassle of airport security. They can have it.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    12 persons like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: thewarden, 9/13/2017 6:31:25 PM     (No. 11382537)

It´s like flying in a cattle car with wings...great line from a very old SNL bit.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    12 persons like this.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Udanja99, 9/13/2017 8:09:58 PM     (No. 11382596)

I´m with you #7. Anyone who bulges over into another person´s seat should have to pay that person half of the cost of his/her ticket. If someone needs a seat belt extender, he/she should be forced to purchase 2 seats.

On the other hand, being stuck between two obese people in a crash just might save your life - all that extra padding.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    10 persons like this.


   

 

Lock-17


 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 9/13/2017 11:43:15 PM     (No. 11382737)

This is all about surviving and escaping a plane.

There´s another hazard involved in tiny seats with no leg room: Sitting jammed in like that for hours on end, how many people get a case of deep vein thrombosis/blood clot, and end up seriously ill or dead?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    10 persons like this.



Post Reply   Close thread 922652




Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "Drive"

and

Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)




Most Recent Articles posted by "Drive"



Condoleezza Rice on #MeToo:
´Let´s not turn women into snowflakes´
CNN, by Alexandra King    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/14/2018 7:47:50     Post Reply
Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that while she believes the #MeToo movement is "a good thing," people need "to be a little bit careful" about how they respond to it. "Let´s not turn women into snowflakes. Let´s not infantilize women," Rice insisted during an interview with CNN´s David Axelrod on "The Axe Files," which airs at 7 ET Saturday night. Rice said she didn´t want "to get to a place that men start to think, ´Well, maybe it´s just better not to have women around.´ I´ve heard a little bit of that. And it, it worries me," she told

Paul Manafort has a point
Washington Examiner, by Byron York    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/12/2018 6:48:00     Post Reply
It´s not a popular thing to defend Paul Manafort, the international influence peddler who ran Donald Trump´s presidential campaign for a short time in 2016. Just search for "Manafort" and, say, "sleazeball," and see what comes up. But even bad guys have a case sometimes. And Manafort has a case in his lawsuit against Trump-Russia special counsel Robert Mueller and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein. Mueller sent Manafort a strong message last July, when FBI agents working for Mueller, guns drawn, broke into Manafort´s house in the pre-dawn hours while Manafort and his wife slept inside. Mueller sent another message last

Trump’s Foes Beat Retreat
To a Rat-Infested Trench
And Wave 25th Amendment
New York Sun, by Conrad Black    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/11/2018 4:42:36     Post Reply
Having encountered Michael Wolff and having had an acidulous public exchange with him, I attest that he is an utterly odious man. He can’t write properly, has no professional integrity, and is a sociophobic mud-slinger and myth-maker. His entry into the continuing Trump controversy in its twilight proclaims that we have reached the era of the swiftly evaporating, nausea-inducing nothingburger. Yet, in what will surely prove the one civically useful thing Mr. Wolff will have done in his adult life, he has performed almost the final evisceration of the throbbing pustule of deranged Trumpophobia. His book is so overtly and

   

 

R-LJ
  


 
Ronan Farrow, the Hollywood Prince
Who Torched the Castle
Hollywood Reporter, by Marisa Guthrie    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/10/2018 12:35:07     Post Reply
A child of entertainment royalty and an early witness to "power used for ill," the son of Woody Allen and Mia Farrow opens up about helping bring down Harvey Weinstein ("My family background made me understand abuse from an early age"), the NBC News debacle and what´s next (a big HBO deal) as mom Mia reveals why she was "increasingly concerned for his safety." Ronan Farrow is dressed in a black tuxedo jacket and blue silk pajama bottoms. Showing a bit of stubble, his blond hair mussed, he´s holding court at the bar at Mama Lion, a sleek supper club

Revelations in Michael Wolff’s Fire and
Fury Aren’t News inside the Beltway
National Review, by Jonah Goldberg    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/10/2018 7:24:44     Post Reply
In Trump´s D.C., insiders knew what Wolff had to tell before he told the world. ‘Fishermen, sharpen your hooks, bring out the cheese balls and grease your bicycles. Soon there’s going to be trout fishing inside the Beltway.” That’s the first time the phrase “inside the Beltway” – meaning, in this instance, the physical realm within the I-495 ring road that surrounds Washington, D.C. – appeared in the Washington Post, the official Beltway paper. It showed up in a 1977 story about stocking the Anacostia River with trout. It wasn’t until 1983 that the term became reliably figurative, signifying, according

Judge blocks Trump administration
plan to roll back DACA
CNN, by Ariane de Vogue, Dan Berman*    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/10/2018 7:06:12     Post Reply
A federal judge in California late Tuesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration´s efforts to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Judge William Alsup also said the administration must resume receiving DACA renewal applications. But the ruling is limited -- the administration does not need to process applications for those who have never before received DACA protections, he said.

What you need to know about Christopher
Steele, the FBI and the Trump ‘dossier’
Washington Post, by Glenn Kessler    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/9/2018 7:51:04     Post Reply
“Mr. Steele was on the payroll of Fusion GPS, who was being paid by the Democratic Party to do opposition research on Donald Trump. That while he was working with the FBI, he was shopping this dossier all over the world. That’s not what an informant should do.” — Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Jan. 7, 2018. Graham and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, on Jan. 5 referred Christopher Steele, the author of the “dossier” alleging ties between President Trump and Russia, for a criminal investigation by the Justice

Milo Yiannopoulos fighting
with his own lawyers
New York Post, by Oli Coleman    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/9/2018 6:47:50     Post Reply
Embattled provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos appears to be in yet another fight — this time with his own lawyers. On Monday, Yiannopoulos, who is suing publisher Simon & Schuster for shelving his book “Dangerous,” said he would rep himself in court after Meister Seelig & Fein filed papers withdrawing, because Yiannopoulos “has insisted on pursuing actions with which [the firm] has a fundamental disagreement.” Partner Jeffrey Weingart wrote that Milo’s “lack of co-operation .?.?. has rendered [the firm’s] representation .?.?. unreasonably difficult to carry out effectively.” Yiannopoulos had a different version of events, telling Page Six in a s

   

 



 
The Rise and Precipitous
Fall of Steve Bannon
National Review, by Jonah Goldberg    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 1/4/2018 8:09:19     Post Reply
Steve Bannon won’t be going away any time soon, because he’s clearly addicted to the idea that he’s supremely relevant, and he’s surrounded himself with people who agree with him or are happy to be paid to say they agree with him. But I’m struggling to think of a comparable figure in American political history who squandered real power and influence as completely and quickly as Bannon has. Father Coughlin — a Bannon-like figure in more ways than one — was a major force in American politics for most of the 1930s, wielding significant popular influence. His power increased for

Inside Matt Lauer’s Secret Relationship With
a ‘Today’ Production Assistant (EXCLUSIVE)
Variety, by Ramin Setoodeh    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 12/15/2017 7:08:01     Post Reply
In 1999, Addie Collins arrived at NBC’s “Today” as a young intern with big aspirations. A few months later, she landed her dream job as production assistant, forming close bonds with her new colleagues Katie Couric, Ann Curry and Al Roker. But Matt Lauer kept more of a professional distance—until Collins (who now goes by her married last name Zinone) was ready to leave the show. One day in July 2000, he invited her to lunch, which Zinone thought would be a chance to ask him for career advice. Instead, Lauer, who was in his 40s and newly married, started to

Ugly as Mueller’s investigation may look,
it’s on track to clear Trump
New York Post, by Andrew C. McCarthy    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 12/14/2017 7:10:57     Post Reply
There was a rush to judgment last week on Peter Strzok, a top FBI counterintelligence agent and one of the lead agents on the Hillary Clinton emails investigation, after revelations that Strzok exchanged text messages during the 2016 campaign with an FBI lawyer that were pro-Clinton and anti-Trump. The lawyer was Lisa Page, with whom he was having an extramarital affair. Like Strzok, Page worked on both the Clinton probe and on special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia. In light of the obvious appearance of bias, Mueller rightly removed Strzok from the Trump-Russia case. (Page had

Kentucky Rep. Dan Johnson won´t resign, says
sexual abuse allegations are politically motivated
Courier-Journal, by Phillip M. Bailey and Thomas Novelly    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 12/13/2017 7:46:14     Post Reply
A Kentucky lawmaker accused of sexually abusing a teenager said Tuesday that he would not resign from office and that the allegations are false and politically motivated. "This allegation concerning this lady, this young girl, absolutely has no merit, these are unfounded accusations, totally," state Rep. Dan Johnson, R-Mount Washington, said at a press conference at his church attended by family, campaign volunteers and members of his congregation. Johnson, a self-anointed "pope" of his congregation, is accused of sexually abusing a member of Heart of Fire Church in the Fern Creek area when she was 17. The woman, who is



Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)



Enjoying some Miami heat! Michelle Obama, 53,
looks sensational in a white bikini
and cut-off shorts as she and daughter Malia, 19,
enjoy a winter weekend at the beach

60 replie(s)
Daily Mail (UK), by Valerie Siebert    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 1/14/2018 3:08:20 PM     Post Reply
Michelle Obama and her eldest daughter Malia made a rare appearance in swimsuits as they are enjoying the sun in Miami.The mother and 19-year-old daughter were spotted walking off Miami Beach on Saturday surrounded by friends - including former Obama administration senior advisor Valerie Jarrett - and Secret Service personnel.Michelle, 53, looked sensational in a white bikini top matched with high-waisted white denim cut-off shorts as she trudged her way barefoot through the sand, holding her shoes in one hand.

NAACP Says MLK’s Vision
Can’t Be Achieved Without
Fighting Global Warming

44 replie(s)
Daily Caller, by Michael Bastasch    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 1/15/2018 2:12:09 PM     Post Reply
This Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, the NAACP wants man-made global warming to be seen as a civil rights issue, arguing King’s vision of a society free of racial injustice can’t be achieved without addressing warming. “We see climate change as a civil rights issue,” Jacqueline Patterson, head of the NAACP’s environmental and climate justice program, said in an online radio spot for the Yale Center for Environmental Connection. Environmental activists have been increasingly framing global warming as a matter of “environmental justice,” since “minority and low-income populations are disproportionately affected by global warming,” Patterson told Yale’s online radio Climate

The real reason Democrats are throwing
such a fit about ´s-hole countries´

43 replie(s)
American Thinker, by John Dietrich    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/14/2018 11:36:44 PM     Post Reply
The most recent attack on the president is designed to throw him off balance during the debate on immigration. Senator Durbin, doing his best Claude Rains imitation, stated, "I cannot believe that, in the history of the White House, in that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday." Durbin was responding to Trump´s alleged comment that Haiti, El Salvador, and certain African countries are "s---holes." Many of the reports omit mention of El Salvador because it does not fit the anti-black allegations. Senator Durbin is not a young man, and he

´You Did This!´ Actress Jamie Lee Curtis
Blames Trump For Hawaii False Alarm

41 replie(s)
Daily Wire, by Joseph Curl    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/14/2018 4:49:29 PM     Post Reply
Actress and yogurt salesman Jamie Lee Curtis knows exactly whom to blame for a false alarm that told Hawaiians an incoming ballistic missile was detected. It was all President Trump´s fault. Duh. Now, never mind that Trump was in Florida at the time. On the golf course. And forget that Hawaii´s Emergency Management Agency (EMA), run by the Hawaiian state government, apologized for setting off the false alarm when someone pushed the wrong button. In a Saturday afternoon post on Twitter, Curtis attacked Trump, writing "YOU DID THIS!" "This Hawaii missile scare is on YOU Mr. Trump. The real FEAR that

Shocking moment 20-person brawl breaks
out at pizza restaurant over missing
iPhone... which was in lost and
found the whole time

41 replie(s)
Daily Mail [UK], by Khaleda Rahman    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 1/15/2018 7:26:52 AM     Post Reply
This is the shocking moment a massive brawl broke out in a California pizza restaurant over a missing iPhone that turned out to have been in the lost and found the whole time. Police were called to John´s Incredible Pizza Company in Newark´s NewPark Mall on Saturday night after violence erupted. It broke out after a girl missing her phone had approached a group to see if they´d seen it but quickly descended into chaos, with video showing two large groups of people exchanging blows and screaming at each other. Newark police officers had to call in officers from the Fremont Police Department

Romney takes swipe at Trump
over ´s---hole´ comments, race relations

38 replie(s)
Fox News, by Bernini Chakraborty    Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself- 1/15/2018 6:13:05 PM     Post Reply
Mitt Romney took a swipe at Donald Trump on Monday, condemning the crude comments the president was said to have made about Haiti and African countries -- calling them “inconsistent (with) America’s history and antithetical to American values” with a reference to Martin Luther King, Jr. The poverty of an aspiring immigrant’s nation of origin is as irrelevant as their race,” Romney tweeted. “The sentiment attributed to POTUS is inconsistent w/America’s history and antithetical to American values. May our memory of Dr. King buoy our hope for unity, greatness, & ‘charity for all.’”

Incoming N.J. governor plans a swing
to the left — and a model for the country

36 replie(s)
Washington Post, by David Weigel    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 1/15/2018 1:49:49 PM     Post Reply
TRENTON, N.J. — Days before his inauguration as New Jersey’s 56th governor, Phil Murphy had Hollywood on his mind. The 60-year old Democrat had just read a headline about reshoots on “All the Money in the World,” which had been done in a hurry to remove disgraced actor Kevin Spacey from the movie. (Snip) Murphy is ready to end his obscurity. On Tuesday, when he is sworn in, New Jersey will become one of just eight states where Democrats run every branch of government. If Murphy has his way, New Jersey will become a proving ground for every liberal policy

African immigrants are more educated than
most — including people born in US

35 replie(s)
Los Angeles Times, by Ann M. Simmons    Original Article
Posted By: Maggie2u- 1/14/2018 9:22:41 AM     Post Reply
Lots of the news from sub-Saharan Africa is about war, famine, poverty or political upheaval. So it’s understandable if many Americans think most Africans who immigrate to the United States are poorly educated and desperate. Research tells another story. While many are refugees, large numbers are beneficiaries of the diversity-visa program aimed at boosting immigration from underrepresented nations. And on average, African immigrants are better educated than people born in the U.S. or the immigrant population as a whole.

´Personal Insult´: Bill Clinton Slams
Accusations Foundation Money
Used for Chelsea´s Wedding

35 replie(s)
Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 1/14/2018 5:03:53 PM     Post Reply
Former President Bill Clinton said on Twitter Saturday that no Clinton Foundation funds were used to pay for his daughter´s wedding. After President Trump reportedly made crude remarks about Haiti and other less-developed countries, some on the right pointed to alleged mishandling of Haitian earthquake relief funds by the Clinton Foundation. On Twitter, President Clinton slammed the notion that any funds from the foundation, whether earmarked for Haiti or not, were used in association with his daughter Chelsea´s wedding to investment banker Marc Mezvinsky. No Clinton Foundation funds—dedicated to Haiti or otherwise—

Fifth Dem announces plan to boycott
Trump´s State of the Union

35 replie(s)
The Hill, by Olivia Beavers    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/15/2018 6:11:38 PM     Post Reply
Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) on Monday announced she plans to boycott President Trump´s State of the Union address to Congress at the end of the month, joining a handful of other Democratic lawmakers who are skipping the annual event. "I´m here on Martin Luther King Jr. Day to say I will not be going to the State of the Union," Jayapal said in a video posted on social media. "I think it is absolutely unacceptable to see the racism and the hatred coming out the White House in a way in which this president is fueling the flames of divisiveness across

Democrats ramp up efforts to boycott
Trump´s State of the Union address

34 replie(s)
Fox News, by Barnini Chakraborty    Original Article
Posted By: M2- 1/15/2018 11:05:28 AM     Post Reply
Florida Rep. Frederica Wilson added her name to a growing list of Democratic lawmakers who say they are fed up with President Trump and will boycott his State of the Union address at the end of the month. (snip) “For the first time since I began serving in the U.S. House of Representatives, I will not be attending the president’s State of the Union address,” Wilson said in a statement late Sunday. “I have no doubts that instead of delivering a message of inclusivity and an agenda that benefits all Americans, President Trump’s address will be full of innuendo, empty

Pandemonium and Rage in Hawaii
33 replie(s)
Atlantic, by Alia Wong    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 1/15/2018 4:36:03 AM     Post Reply
Why would my 22-year-old brother be calling so early on a Saturday morning? I’d ignored the first call. But the second time the phone rang, I picked it up. He was panicking, his voice trembling uncharacteristically: He’d just received the emergency alert warning of a ballistic missile that was heading for Hawaii, where I’m from, and where he and my family still live. “THIS IS NOT A DRILL,” the alert read. My brother was alone, and had no idea what to do or where to go. And he wouldn’t have had much time to figure out a game plan—some estimates

   

Post Reply   Close thread 922652





Recommended Trending videos


Sek-Float


Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google



© 2015 Lucianne.com Media Inc.

FS