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Opioid, Schmopioid
American Thinker, by Ronald J. Kozar

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Posted By:zephyrgirl, 7/14/2017 7:22:52 AM

If you intentionally crash your car into a tree, don’t call me for a tow. If you deliberately set fire to your own house, don’t ask me to put it out. And if you overdose on opioids, don’t expect me to come to your rescue. Come to think of it, opioids aren’t even in the same moral category as the car and the house. Opioids are worse. For all I know, it may be legal to burn your house down. And, depending on where it is, crashing your car into a tree may be legal too. Opioids, by contrast, are

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Amen. Addicts make everyone around them miserable and crazy. Deep down, most of their relatives are probably relieved when they finally croak.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: lifelonghuman, 7/14/2017 7:38:05 AM     (No. 11318592)

Tough call. Seems like way too many people to mark it down as an addictive personality disorder. Call me ambivalent.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin, 7/14/2017 7:46:02 AM     (No. 11318602)

Just another step in the relentless, never-ending abdication of personal responsibility...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Felixcat, 7/14/2017 7:54:25 AM     (No. 11318607)

A big Amen!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 7/14/2017 8:11:10 AM     (No. 11318620)

When you remove the free will of man from government or theology, you get liberalism in government and in the Church. We have a movement to deny Man´s choice and therefore, culpability, and are getting loads of liberal thinking in response.

Search your Bible for the variations on the word "choose". Tabulate how many times God is the subject of the verbal idea behind the variation of "choice", "choose", "chosen", etc. You will find that God chooses . . . so does Man, and that Man is commanded by God to choose.

We learn from this that Man is free.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: tank, 7/14/2017 8:12:17 AM     (No. 11318621)

While I understand and sympathize with his point, I don´t think I totally agree. If Narcan didn´t exist, this wouldn´t be an issue. Unfortunately, Narcan has become a "magic bullet" that seems to further enable this behavior, and provide a means for others to excuse the behavior.

However, I cannot bring myself to be as callous as this guy, and look at others as somehow less than human because of this destructive behavior.

The poster above has it right - we have abdicated personal responsibility for our actions. Or rather, it seems a good segment of a few generations of Americans have not been encouraged to follow a path of responsibility. Somebody will always bail them out.

Opioid addiction/overdoses/fatalaties are not the problem, they are a symptom of the problem. We have a long row to hoe to get to a society that has enough self worth to not follow such self-destructive behavior in such large numbers.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Lazyman, 7/14/2017 8:13:37 AM     (No. 11318622)

If 50 people were on a boat and 10 refused to row, I think it´s time to throw them over.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bpl40, 7/14/2017 8:23:57 AM     (No. 11318632)

Stop treating consequences of voluntary decisions by adults as a sickness and health care costs will be a fraction of what they are. Well within the capacity of a twenty trillion dollar economy.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: gijohn, 7/14/2017 8:25:41 AM     (No. 11318634)

Our daughter was an addict. Cough syrup, opioids, heroin, anything to get high. Finally died huffing keyboard cleaner. They will find a way to get high. I saw a British drug program years ago and the Doctor they interviewed stated that all drug abatement programs were useless until the addict wanted to be clean. He also said that many times they died first.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: rinohunter, 7/14/2017 8:33:44 AM     (No. 11318644)

Tough article but full of what the media and society in general lack - truth.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Michaelus, 7/14/2017 8:55:16 AM     (No. 11318655)

What about diabetics who refuse to lose weight? Smokers? Homosexuals who get AIDS and Hep-C? What about hikers who get lost? What about letting motorcyclists die on the side of the road because they refused to wear a helmet? How about the 13 year old girl who cuts her wrists after she is raped by her stepfather - let her bleed out to save some money?

We need to face the fact that we are living in a society characterized by isolation and despair.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Tsquare, 7/14/2017 8:57:15 AM     (No. 11318657)

Why Narcam? Saving addicts (over and over) increases users, increases suppliers, increases dependencies, ultimately causes more drug misery and more drug death than the alternative of letting current overdosrers die.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Hazymac, 7/14/2017 8:57:17 AM     (No. 11318658)

In the late ´Aughts Florida became known for its pill mills staffed by quack doctors who would prescribe powerful opioids to just about anybody who showed up, and vans crammed full of people were driven down from as far away as Canada to get their prescriptions filled.

I had a house cleaner whose next door neighbor had wrangled something she wanted badly: a prescription for 300 Percocets per month. (If you or I took ten of those a day, we´d be at best dog ass addicted or, more likely, dead.) She got her pills, and I let her go. Addicts steal.

The Florida legislature really tightened down on pill mills in 2010, and the out of state addicts went elsewhere. Predictably, the in-state addicts turned to heroin, which is now usually heroin laced with Chinese produced fentanyl, which is one hundred times stronger than heroin. I don´t even want to think about superfentanyl, which is probably like elephant tranquilizer. (Etorphine has been measured at 10,000 times stronger than morphine, which is one-sixth the strength of heroin, or of dilaudid or demerol, which are essentially pharmaceutical heroin.)

Once after major surgery I got percocet. The first one made me throw up; the second and third ones also made me throw up, so I know this stuff isn´t for me, and I avoid it. I don´t want to be addicted to anything.

Do I agree with Kozar? Yep.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ebuilder, 7/14/2017 8:59:18 AM     (No. 11318661)

I take it the [demonic and not merely indulgent, and doctor recommended, and tax gathering] purpose of legalizing mind altering drugs is to ruin the culture and overthrow the country. The Yankee work ethic, the morals, and the culture disappear. Druggies, will lose their sanity, and unable to drive heavy machinery, will have to go on welfare. [Thus, robots.] Others will go on welfare because they will have figured out the perfect crime: how to get the government pay them not to work -- and to stay stoned. To get taxpayers to pay for opioid addiction is just the beginning. "In the last days many will be offended"; and many "will not repent of their sorceries" [trans. pharmakos].

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Pros7767, 7/14/2017 9:26:49 AM     (No. 11318690)

Having children who have had surgeries for shoulder injuries and watching the doctor´s prescribe these pills like candy, I am less judgmental of opioid addicts. I know of many "normal" people who would never have gotten addicted but for a serious injury whether by car accident or sports injury.

Fortunately for us, we carefully monitored how many pills our sons were given and switched to motrin after about 2 days. Others rely on the doctors recommendation and continue to give/take these pills. They are poison.

The key is not to get addicted. Once you are, the fight to stay sober is lifelong.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Hazymac, 7/14/2017 9:30:49 AM     (No. 11318695)

While we´re on the subject, a few words from the quintessential Rolling Stone, Keith Richards, serve to underline one aspect of the drug problem. Quoth Keith: "I´ve never had a problem with drugs. I´ve had problems with the police." One thing leads to another.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: god of irony, 7/14/2017 9:31:49 AM     (No. 11318696)

Slightly off topic but police and other non medical people should not be administering Narcan for any reason. A patients reaction to it can radically change depending on the dosage. Administrators are putting their lives in danger if they don´t know what they are doing.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lagniappe, 7/14/2017 9:44:20 AM     (No. 11318713)

Ok, the hell with the "drug-addled wretch", but what about when it´s your father, who was a dependable, loving man for most of his life, or a sister / mother who after years of being "normal" become what you call a "drug-addled wrench".

People like Buzz Aldrin, George W. Bush, Jenna Bush, Betty Ford, Rush Limbaugh, Tim Allen, and many, many more fully functioning people who, in the past, lost their ability to choose.

For many people drug/alcohol use is a choice. Then for some it becomes a bad habit. For about 10% of drug/alcohol users, after using for a while, they loose their ability to choose. It´s like choosing not to sneeze.

Instead of assisting with their suicide, how about giving them a choice: Jail or a successful treatment experience. Perhaps they can become like the people in the list above.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 7/14/2017 10:29:06 AM     (No. 11318752)

Slap a $10,000 tax on the makers of opioids each time a can of narcan is administered.

The people who sell these drugs are despicable. They should be only sold where two unrelated doctors both approve.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 7/14/2017 10:35:07 AM     (No. 11318763)

I agree 100% with the author´s opinion. If these losers think so little of their own lives, why should society care more?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mickturn, 7/14/2017 10:40:58 AM     (No. 11318769)

I agree, if people want to drug up and destroy themselves, give them the stuff and put them in a safe house until they burn out.

At least that way they can´t take out everyone around them in the process!

IF we give them the stuff free there are no drug dealers, no one will buy what they get for free. You want to destroy yourself, GO FOR IT, save us the trouble of giving you welfare and watching you destroy our society as you destroy yourself!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/14/2017 11:06:52 AM     (No. 11318797)

These are behavioral problems and as long as the behavior is tolerated and in a sense rewarded through attention given to the poor "victim", they will continue.

Narcan only saves a person from dying from their current overdose. They are snapped into sobriety and pay little price. That wasn´t so bad they think. A few days later they may be at it again.

The only problem I have with the article is that behavioral problems are extremely hard to "fix". Mental Health professionals like to pretend they have answers but from personal experience with many for a family member, they do NOT. There have been many treatments, many diagnoses, and repeated failures. The article suggests it is a personal moral failing. OK, that may be part of it, but what do you do to prevent it or fix it. For my family member, it was not poor care or poor examples for living. There was something "off" from a young age. So again, WHAT do you do? WHAT can the person do? When they fail for the 20th time do you give up and let them die or give them Narcan in hope that the 21st time is the one that sticks?

I realize the costs; they can be staggering. But what are the alternatives? Death for all long term addicts, even if it is self inflicted?

I am FAR from a weenie on this subject but it is a horrendous mess and simple solutions of declaring someone morally deficient are not the answer. I´m not sure there is one. I do a lot of praying.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: IdahoSky, 7/14/2017 12:19:24 PM     (No. 11318889)

I don´t know. It strikes me as a problem similar to drunk driving.
No, it´s not a clear, intentional decision, but at what point is the destruction caused by the behavior enough?
At what point does it take first responders from other emergencies?
The addict is not the only life affected and the problems associated with the behavior are not all monetary.
Other lives are at stake.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dvc, 7/14/2017 12:31:35 PM     (No. 11318907)

#4, you refer to ´choice´, and I agree. I have said many times here, and it is an axiom in my life - "life is all about choices".

And, lest you think that I have no compassion because I have never experienced this in my family, I have a family member who had a serious problem with alcohol, and managed to recognize it before it totally wrecked everything and get help, and stay clear of it for many years now.
It was a choice to stop it.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Aubreyesque, 7/14/2017 12:43:08 PM     (No. 11318920)

You people are forgetting that some of these addicts came by it because it was associated with recent medical issues...like surgery, or pain killers prescribed by doctors to manage pain because of a medical issue. I just recently had major surgery...and the pain medication prescribed was Vicodin. I only took it for three days, but I swear the come-down off it was NOT pleasant. I felt HORRIBLE for about a day and a half. Im not sure if that was because of a delayed reaction to the surgery or because I simply stopped taking the Vicodin. I am not an addictive personality. Believe me, in my younger days, when I was going through a bout of deep depression, I TRIED to make myself an addict. I couldnt do it. So my constitution is a strong one. HOWEVER, after having just those three days of Vicodin, I could EASILY see how someone who is a bit more prone to addiction would find it much easier to just keep taking the opioid than go through whatever withdrawal they had to. If Id had to take the Vicodin for much longer, or any other kind of opioid, Id have found it very difficult myself.

It isnt always about someone making stupid decisions.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Postaway, 7/14/2017 1:24:43 PM     (No. 11318971)

Whether addiction is a disease or a choice it should not be up to taxpayers to fund its continuance. Anyone who needs Narcan due to recreational drug use should be required to pay for it. If they can´t, they can spend several days in custody doing labor to work off the costs...hard labor. Labor that is of real value to those who are paying for their imprisonment.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/14/2017 2:23:02 PM     (No. 11319030)

Addicts play Russian Roulette every time they shoot up. Very few break the cycle and go on to be productive members of society. Their addiction destroys their relationships as well, and they are a cancer on society by their crimes which they use to fuel their addiction. Personally I prefer the solution by which China eliminated their Opium crisis in the early 20th century.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Ussjimmycarter, 7/14/2017 2:35:59 PM     (No. 11319042)

Wow! Judge Not! There are those of us who suffer from intratible pain! Have tried everything including legal weed and relief from back and neck pain must be managed! I pray that nobody on here ever goes through unbearable pain 24/7/365!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: dvc, 7/14/2017 7:47:23 PM     (No. 11319336)

Sorry, #27. I will judge, and am prepared to be judged, too.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 7/15/2017 9:09:16 AM     (No. 11319758)

Reefer Madness in the 21st Century. Non-stop "opioid epidemic" coverage is even crowding out some Russia conspiracy stories. Seriously, the media-fueled opioid hysteria is making it very difficult for people who are suffering in pain to get relief. The media has whipped up a frenzy, Doctors are paranoid, and, on cue, politicians are stampeding to wage a new War on Drugs. What alternative does that leave for people in pain? You guessed it - the Black Market.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: tisHimself, 7/17/2017 6:06:58 PM     (No. 11321853)

Some literature in areas of sports medicine reocvery and dentistry suggest three advil and two tyleonol mimic the pain control aspects of opiods.

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Washington Post, by James Hohmann*    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 9/18/2017 8:30:34 AM     Post Reply
The Big Idea: If I had to stock Hillary Clinton’s new memoir in a bookstore, I’d be tempted to place it in a section on self-help or bereavement. “What Happened” was quickly strip-mined for political nuggets after its publication last Tuesday. As I went through it over the weekend, though, what struck me most was how the wounded Democrat coped after her crushing defeat last November. In short, Clinton has read voraciously and eclectically — for escape, for solace and for answers. The collection of works that she cites across 494 pages showcases a top-flight intellect and would make for a compelling graduate school seminar.

Couples brawl at Walmart as kids
watch, attempt to intervene (video)

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NJ.com, by Spencer Kent    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 9/18/2017 4:34:57 PM     Post Reply
Union — A violent brawl over the weekend between two couples at a local Walmart was captured on video showing punches being exchanged as children watched and attempted to intervene. The video appears to show the two couples fighting Saturday near the jewelry section in the store on Springfield Road in Union. (Snip) The two men can be seen exchanging blows as the two women brawl at the same time. A third woman can be seen attempting to break up the fight between the two women with two young children also trying to intervene. Dozens of customers looked on at the ensuing

Climate change not as threatening
to planet as previously thought,
new research suggests

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Telegraph [UK], by Henry Bodkin    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 9/18/2017 11:45:25 PM     Post Reply
Climate change poses less of an immediate threat to the planet than previously thought because scientists got their modelling wrong, a new study has found. New research by British scientists reveals the world is being polluted and warming up less quickly than 10-year-old forecasts predicted, giving countries more time to get a grip on their carbon output. (Snip) The discrepancy means nations could continue emitting carbon dioxide at the current rate for another 20 years before the target was breached, instead of the three to five predicted by the previous model. “When you are talking about a budget of 1.5

Kellogg and Brown University to Offer
Segregated Dinners for Black, Muslim Students

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Breitbart Big Government, by Warner Todd Huston    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/18/2017 8:21:21 PM     Post Reply
Liberal Brown University is set to offer segregated dinners for black and Muslim students on the tail of recent Antifa protests that have turned violent over the last few months. Purporting to offer “racial reconciliation,” Brown administrators took a $300,000 grant from the Association of American Colleges and Universities (AAC&U) to “break down racial hierarchies and create a positive narrative about race in the community,” the College Fix reported. The money was supplied by donations by liberal organizations such as the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, and Newman’s Own Foundation. There will be two separate segregated “dinner discussion groups,” one for African

Trump Vindicated: Report Says Obama
Government Wiretapped Trump Campaign

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Breitbart Big Government, by Kristina Wong    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/18/2017 11:05:17 PM     Post Reply
U.S. investigators wiretapped President Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to a report by CNN that vindicates the president’s earlier claims, which were mocked as a conspiracy theory. President Trump had tweeted on March 4: “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (Tweet) Breitbart News editor Joel Pollak had reported the day before Trump’s tweet that the Obama administration “sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign: continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found.” Trump’s claim,

´I´m rooting for everybody black´: HBO
star Issa Rae backs African-Americans
at the Emmys as Atlanta´s Donald Glover
wins TWO awards and Sterling K Brown
takes lead actor in a drama

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Daily Mail [UK], by Harvey Day    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 9/18/2017 9:53:05 AM     Post Reply
The star of HBO´s Insecure proudly spoke about her support for black nominees at the Emmys last night in an awards ceremony that had historic wins for minority stars. ´I´m rooting for everybody black,´ Issa Rae said from the red carpet. ´I am!´ The 32-year-old actress and writer also praised the number of African-Americans recognized for their talents in the TV industry. (Snip) During his speech for Best Lead Actor in a Comedy, he said: ´I want to thank Trump for making black people number one on the most oppressed list. He´s the reason I am probably up here.´

Arpaio Fires Back at Liberal Activist
Judge Threatening to Keep His Conviction
Despite Trump’s Pardon

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Gateway Pundit, by Christina Laila    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/17/2017 9:31:00 PM     Post Reply
Another day, another radical judge. As the Gateway Pundit previously reported, a U.S. district judge may actually refuse to rescind Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s conviction despite the fact that President Trump pardoned him. Arpaio is 85 years old. (Photo) The White House announced on August 25th that President Trump pardoned former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. In a filing Thursday, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton wrote she wasn’t convinced that she should drop Arpaio’s conviction, The Washington Post reported. Instead, she may only drop the criminal case and let the conviction stand–unless she can be convinced otherwise. U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton

Safest Bet in Sports: Men Complaining
About a Female Announcer’s Voice

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New York Times, by Julie Dicaro    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 9/19/2017 5:04:33 AM     Post Reply
CHICAGO — “Shrill.” “Grating.” “Like listening to my ex nag me.” “Sounds like my mom yelling at me.” Women in sports broadcasting are used to men criticizing their voices. In my three years in sports radio, I’ve had more men complain about my voice than everything else about me combined — and trust me, there are a lot of other things they don’t like about me. “It has nothing to do with you being a woman,” they tell me, “I just can’t stand the sound of your voice.” For someone who gets paid primarily to say sports words on the radio, listeners hating the sound of


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