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Fixer Upper Homeowner Says
Chip and Joanna Gaines ´Deceived´
Her About ´Not Safe´ Neighborhood

People, by Mackenzie Schmidt

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 7/11/2017 10:35:13 AM

When a man suspected of drunk driving smashed through the front wall of their home in Waco, Texas, early Saturday morning, Kelly Downs and her husband, Ken, were sleeping in the master suite towards the rear of the house. The couple were unharmed, but according to Kelly, the violent incident was a long time coming. “It’s like the Wild West here. There’s been a lot of commotion coming from the bars and the store across the street,” she told the Waco Tribune of the neighborhood the couple moved to a year and a half ago. They had been selected to

There´s a good reason these homes are very inexpensive and need a lot of work - they are usually in a rough part of town. Live with it, snowflake.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 7/11/2017 10:42:48 AM     (No. 11315388)

Someone smells a deep pocket. These are things you check out yourself. It´s called due diligence.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: GOPinTN, 7/11/2017 10:54:15 AM     (No. 11315399)

Personal responsibility is something thought up by old white men, no longer applies.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dukester, 7/11/2017 11:03:16 AM     (No. 11315409)

Also: Hit job against known Christians from left-leaning mag-rag.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MMC, 7/11/2017 11:03:56 AM     (No. 11315410)

Agree with above posters, my motto is "trust and verify". Besides, did you not notice the neighborhood when you drove up and walked property? Did you really agree to buy a house across from a bar and not expect problems now and then?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 7/11/2017 11:07:43 AM     (No. 11315416)

Did the Gaineses temporarily relocate the bars and stores when the buyers viewed the property? No? Then it was buyers´ responsibility to reject the property if they didn´t like the neighborhood. And as for its being like "the Wild West," well...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fayebeck, 7/11/2017 11:13:46 AM     (No. 11315424)

A homeowner who falsifies or neglects to inform a buyer of some wrong to the property is liable for a lawsuit. How come these bible quoting money grubbers are exempt?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel, 7/11/2017 11:15:04 AM     (No. 11315430)

Oh the horror! /s In my time living in this house, there have been three one car wrecks. One took out a light pole next door, one took out a school crossing sign, and one tried to take out a giant pine tree (but lost). It´s a busy little piece of Route 66 and we try to be wary whenever the yard needs mowed. I don´t care where you live, somebody´s gonna dunk their car in your pool or take out your hydrangea bushes and the crepe myrtle. Ain´t nowhere safe, Muffy, git used to it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/11/2017 11:19:28 AM     (No. 11315434)

Agree with OP. “the bars and store across the street”….duh.

Read about these people. They scoop up cheap houses (which are generally found in rundown neighborhoods), fix them up and rent them out via vacation rental services.

In this business, they would be considered “sophisticated investors” so would have no recourse against the Gaines’s unless they have something in print that seriously misrepresented the neighborhood.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 7/11/2017 11:43:26 AM     (No. 11315467)

So they moved to Waco specifically to live in a house rehabbed by the Gaines. Furthermore, they rent it out to people on vacation, and tell people it´s in a neighborhood that´s turning over. Sounds like they knew exactly what they were getting into.

"It´s like the Wild West here." Well, no kidding, snowflake - it´s Texas!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 7/11/2017 11:45:39 AM     (No. 11315469)

Wow! This snowflake stuff must be something in the air. Two adults and they need mommy and daddy to care care of the adult, married, baby chicks.
Think you made a bad deal? Sell it and move on but whatever you decide, quit your whining or at least keep it private.
When I was young but getting older, what I heard was son time for you to start growing up. You´re a man now (12-13) and each step you take, you take toward being the man you want to be. And remember, you become what you pretend. Now, I see far fewer young adults acting like adults. Too many acting like children, dressing that way, spending their lives that way. They became what they pretend - children.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/11/2017 11:51:29 AM     (No. 11315474)

There is a far better, more detailed article here:


The Downses’ house is at the end of North 19th Street’s “T” intersection with Alexander, and Kelly Downs said it isn’t the first time the neighborhood has had issues with drivers failing to stop.

Have a look at Google map for N. 19th Street and Alexander, Waco. The block opposite this house appears to be commercial, and there is something on the corner - the bar and market - that has a parking lot in front that wraps around on both streets.

The Downses found out why it was a bargain.

Re disclosure, some “defects" are self-evident (the bar and market said to be across the street would not have to be disclosed - anyone knows that bars are open late and noise is to be expected - and the T junction).

They ask why the Daines’s showed them that property. Realtors show everything. Defects are disclosed in the purchase documents. The obvious defects in this house’s location would be observable by anyone with a brain.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/11/2017 12:16:35 PM     (No. 11315506)

I´m totally confused. The story has always been that these "buyers" come to the Gaines´ with a home already purchased or at least under contract. The whole "show them 3 houses and then they make the decision" is just for the sake of the program. All decisions have been long made and the Gaines´ have nothing at all to do with that part.

The buyer also has to agree in advance to all the design decisions made by Joanna. That´s not such a stretch since she´s pretty good at what she does - if you love shiplap and kitchen islands!!

Somewhere or another I read the agreement that buyers sign with the program and the Gaines. It´s totally unambiguous.

This looks like a "deep pockets" kind of move. Can´t imagine what an attorney might expect of the production company unless they just figure to be paid a nuisance settlement to go away and stop causing negative publicity.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Safari Man, 7/11/2017 12:35:52 PM     (No. 11315522)

I wonder who they will get to do the repairs? I doubt Chip will be excited to help them much.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JoniTx, 7/11/2017 12:40:02 PM     (No. 11315527)

Another article regarding this story, from the Daily Mail, UK:


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Reply 15 - Posted by: jjs, 7/11/2017 12:43:38 PM     (No. 11315532)

I live in Waco, like the area. Like any area you have to decide where you want to live in the community. Sounds like this couple watches too much tv and needed to get out in the world a bit.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 7/11/2017 12:59:26 PM     (No. 11315545)

If the owners had previous experience with drivers blasting thru a T intersection, why did they not put up some decorative, but effective, barriers?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/11/2017 1:23:05 PM     (No. 11315568)

Across from bars? Yeah?
Deep pockets.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Penney, 7/11/2017 1:33:07 PM     (No. 11315578)

The Gaines present several houses in different locations to present to the buyers from which to choose. The buyers then make their own choice from the houses which they are shown and have toured personally. The Downs made their own choice.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: cheeflo, 7/11/2017 2:07:39 PM     (No. 11315611)

This happened recently near me. A small house located at a junction in a nice neighborhood has a history of cars failing to stop at the traffic light and crashing straight into the house. Years ago, the owner put a gigantic rock out front as a barrier. The house was vacant for a long time, but was occupied by renters when a single car ran the light, hit the rock and was launched airborne, crashing through the roof. Alcohol was involved.

The damaged house was right next door to a house being renovated by Nicole Curtis for her show Rehab Addict.

It can happen anywhere. And, as others have pointed out, buying a house across from a bar has its own risks. I don´t see any culpability on the part of Fixer Upper.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 7/11/2017 2:11:23 PM     (No. 11315614)

Personal responsibility in Leftists is virtually nonexistent right now. It is not trendy to use your own eyes.

Attacking Christians and calling them money grubbers is very uncool. God expects His obedient to take care of themselves and their families. That is not money grubbing. That is called a work ethic.

I would say that 99.999% of America knows that you do not buy a property across from a drinking establishment. The Gaines do not talk you into buying a property, they leave that to you, or they work with you after you have bought a place already.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NancyD, 7/11/2017 2:13:49 PM     (No. 11315616)

I knew what couple this was before I went to the extra link provided by a poster.

This couple seemed a bit odd to me from the get-go. I recall that their neighbors had an old rusted abandoned windowless van parked in the driveway when they 1st looked at the house!

I always look at the condition of the neighbors homes when I watch this show. This one was a dump and THEY had 3 choices of homes and THEY picked this house.

If they are that dumb, that is THEIR problem.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: thelmalou, 7/11/2017 2:16:30 PM     (No. 11315617)

I saw this episode, and we agreed it was way too much money to put into a house in such a neighborhood. The camera shots were tight against the house, but you could still glimpse the less-than-thrilling houses on either side. And you could tell something commercial was nearby, but not what exactly. These people´s whining makes them sound like complete dorks. Full disclosure is part of real estate...der.

The people don´t always have a property already picked out. As far as the Gainses showing them property in such an area, they didn´t have to sign on the dotted line.

RE: #6 - I´m all about snark, but geez.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/11/2017 2:20:01 PM     (No. 11315620)

Read the article. They have been renting the house out and trying to profit off of having a Gaines remodeled home. The should have checked out the neighborhood, end of story.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mickturn, 7/11/2017 2:27:06 PM     (No. 11315624)

Had a friend put a down payment on a house I knew was in a high crime area...he didn´t have a clue. I told him to check the police reports for the last 6 months. He did and canceled the purchase.

DO your HOMEWORK, you never would guess that really nice house is a block away from a high crime ´source area´...as Willy Sutton said, I rob banks cause that´s where the Money Is. You buy a house near a high crime area and you become a HUGE target! Buyer Wake Up!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/11/2017 2:44:09 PM     (No. 11315643)

drive thru a neighborhood on the weekend and at night. knock on a few doors. talk to neighbors. do your homework. this is probably the biggest expenditure in your life - some people spend more time researching tires than they do a real estate deal...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Annie xango, 7/11/2017 3:09:24 PM     (No. 11315675)

I believe someone on this thread has their thong in a twist

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Reply 27 - Posted by: texpub, 7/11/2017 3:48:42 PM     (No. 11315709)

Caveat emptor. These people are looking for a quick buck.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: arkfamily, 7/11/2017 3:57:16 PM     (No. 11315716)

Excuse me #6, "bible-quoting money grubbers" is going a bit too far. I am certain these two people have helped out many a people and put a lot of sweat equity into it too. Since calling them names seems to be your thing, what have you done to help out many a people and put sweat equity in?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 7/11/2017 7:19:04 PM     (No. 11315910)

Oh please, leave Texas if you don´t like the "wild west."

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Reply 30 - Posted by: annie xango, 7/11/2017 7:23:33 PM     (No. 11315913)

sorry for the second post...but....I am a Realtor...50 yrs..and I call horse apples!!!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: EAJ123, 7/11/2017 8:09:36 PM     (No. 11315935)

I saw this episode and the homeowners were thoroughly dislikable people...especially the dullard woman with an attitude...and it did occur to me that when they picked this house on the spot that neighborhood apparently wasn´t important. The couple were presented as elite re: smarts, et al and this has about as much ring of authenticity as anything Chuck, the liar straight from hell, Shumer says on any given day and at any time.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/12/2017 2:04:28 AM     (No. 11316141)

If you go online, you can see crime stats for your area.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/12/2017 9:13:09 AM     (No. 11316369)

These poor victims of Chip and Joanna´s greed need to leave Waco and move back to Rio Linda.

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Let’s review a few recent developments. Last week, Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned. This was part of a “White House shakeup” to get the Trump administration back on track. The new communications director, Anthony Scaramucci, would fix the White House’s “messaging problem.” Within 24 hours of Scaramucci’s appointment, the president returned to Twitter and unloaded another torrent of political bombshells, including talking about his power to pardon, even as his attorneys were denying that Donald Trump was thinking about pardoning anyone.

Trump´s Transgender Ban Is
a Legal Land Mine

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Politico, by John Culhane    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 7/27/2017 7:27:13 AM     Post Reply
President Donald Trump’s Wednesday announcement on Twitter that transgender men and women will not be allowed to serve in the military “in any capacity” was not a complete surprise: Last month, Defense Secretary James Mattis announced that the military was hitting the pause button on an Obama-era plan to welcome openly transgender people into the military. But the announcement was a legal land mine. The Trump administration may soon learn that singling out a class of people for exclusion violates the constitutional guarantee of equal protection under the law. And as to those transgender soldiers already serving openly, any effort

What if the Trump-Sessions feud is one big charade?
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American Thinker, by Brian C. Joondeph    Original Article
Posted By: my stars 22- 7/27/2017 2:42:47 AM     Post Reply
President Donald Trump has been attacking his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, daily. There have been brutal attacks on Twitter, in media interviews, and during speeches. Conventional wisdom is that Trump is getting ready to fire Sessions or hoping Sessions resigns. Conventional wisdom also assured everyone that Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide, the only question being by how large a margin. Trump´s complaint is that his attorney general should not have recused himself from the Russia hacking hoax and that he is dragging his feet on long overdue investigations and prosecutions: Deep State leaks; unmasking; DNC and Clinton collusion

Donald Trump’s ‘Transgender’ Declaration
Preserves Americans’ Two-Sex Society

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Breitbart Big Government, by Neil Munro    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 7/26/2017 12:42:24 PM     Post Reply
President Donald Trump’s dramatic decision to exclude so-called “transgender” people from the military is a direct rejection of the progressives’ revolutionary demand that Americans’ society should be remade to eliminate all civic recognition of the two different-and-complementary male and female sexes. (Tweets) The Wednesday decision was greeted with anger from the left, which had hoped that the military’s 2016 endorsement of the transgender ideology would push the Supreme Court and legislators nationwide to impose and establish the unpopular claim that a person’s changeable choice of “gender” is more legally important than their biological sex. If endorsed by the courts, that

McCain slaps back at Trump´s new military
ban, saying transgender troops ´should
be treated as the patriots they are´–
just hours after Trump praised stricken
former POW for his dramatic return to DC

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Daily Mail (UK), by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 7/26/2017 9:10:54 PM     Post Reply
Senator John McCain fired away at Donald Trump´s decision to ban transgender people from military service – and also for announcing a 180 degree turn on a complex issue via Twitter. The Senate Armed Services Committee chairman said in a statement that the military should welcome capable people ´regardless of their gender identity.´ He made the statement hours after his own dramatic return to the Senate for an Obamacare repeal vote, after getting a brain cancer diagnosis. Trump praised the former Vietnam POW for his action, although he went after McCain´s time as a POW during the campaign.

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