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Fixer Upper Homeowner Says
Chip and Joanna Gaines ´Deceived´
Her About ´Not Safe´ Neighborhood

People, by Mackenzie Schmidt

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 7/11/2017 10:35:13 AM

When a man suspected of drunk driving smashed through the front wall of their home in Waco, Texas, early Saturday morning, Kelly Downs and her husband, Ken, were sleeping in the master suite towards the rear of the house. The couple were unharmed, but according to Kelly, the violent incident was a long time coming. “It’s like the Wild West here. There’s been a lot of commotion coming from the bars and the store across the street,” she told the Waco Tribune of the neighborhood the couple moved to a year and a half ago. They had been selected to

There´s a good reason these homes are very inexpensive and need a lot of work - they are usually in a rough part of town. Live with it, snowflake.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 7/11/2017 10:42:48 AM     (No. 11315388)

Someone smells a deep pocket. These are things you check out yourself. It´s called due diligence.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: GOPinTN, 7/11/2017 10:54:15 AM     (No. 11315399)

Personal responsibility is something thought up by old white men, no longer applies.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dukester, 7/11/2017 11:03:16 AM     (No. 11315409)

Also: Hit job against known Christians from left-leaning mag-rag.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MMC, 7/11/2017 11:03:56 AM     (No. 11315410)

Agree with above posters, my motto is "trust and verify". Besides, did you not notice the neighborhood when you drove up and walked property? Did you really agree to buy a house across from a bar and not expect problems now and then?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 7/11/2017 11:07:43 AM     (No. 11315416)

Did the Gaineses temporarily relocate the bars and stores when the buyers viewed the property? No? Then it was buyers´ responsibility to reject the property if they didn´t like the neighborhood. And as for its being like "the Wild West," well...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fayebeck, 7/11/2017 11:13:46 AM     (No. 11315424)

A homeowner who falsifies or neglects to inform a buyer of some wrong to the property is liable for a lawsuit. How come these bible quoting money grubbers are exempt?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel, 7/11/2017 11:15:04 AM     (No. 11315430)

Oh the horror! /s In my time living in this house, there have been three one car wrecks. One took out a light pole next door, one took out a school crossing sign, and one tried to take out a giant pine tree (but lost). It´s a busy little piece of Route 66 and we try to be wary whenever the yard needs mowed. I don´t care where you live, somebody´s gonna dunk their car in your pool or take out your hydrangea bushes and the crepe myrtle. Ain´t nowhere safe, Muffy, git used to it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/11/2017 11:19:28 AM     (No. 11315434)

Agree with OP. “the bars and store across the street”….duh.

Read about these people. They scoop up cheap houses (which are generally found in rundown neighborhoods), fix them up and rent them out via vacation rental services.

In this business, they would be considered “sophisticated investors” so would have no recourse against the Gaines’s unless they have something in print that seriously misrepresented the neighborhood.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 7/11/2017 11:43:26 AM     (No. 11315467)

So they moved to Waco specifically to live in a house rehabbed by the Gaines. Furthermore, they rent it out to people on vacation, and tell people it´s in a neighborhood that´s turning over. Sounds like they knew exactly what they were getting into.

"It´s like the Wild West here." Well, no kidding, snowflake - it´s Texas!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 7/11/2017 11:45:39 AM     (No. 11315469)

Wow! This snowflake stuff must be something in the air. Two adults and they need mommy and daddy to care care of the adult, married, baby chicks.
Think you made a bad deal? Sell it and move on but whatever you decide, quit your whining or at least keep it private.
When I was young but getting older, what I heard was son time for you to start growing up. You´re a man now (12-13) and each step you take, you take toward being the man you want to be. And remember, you become what you pretend. Now, I see far fewer young adults acting like adults. Too many acting like children, dressing that way, spending their lives that way. They became what they pretend - children.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/11/2017 11:51:29 AM     (No. 11315474)

There is a far better, more detailed article here:


The Downses’ house is at the end of North 19th Street’s “T” intersection with Alexander, and Kelly Downs said it isn’t the first time the neighborhood has had issues with drivers failing to stop.

Have a look at Google map for N. 19th Street and Alexander, Waco. The block opposite this house appears to be commercial, and there is something on the corner - the bar and market - that has a parking lot in front that wraps around on both streets.

The Downses found out why it was a bargain.

Re disclosure, some “defects" are self-evident (the bar and market said to be across the street would not have to be disclosed - anyone knows that bars are open late and noise is to be expected - and the T junction).

They ask why the Daines’s showed them that property. Realtors show everything. Defects are disclosed in the purchase documents. The obvious defects in this house’s location would be observable by anyone with a brain.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/11/2017 12:16:35 PM     (No. 11315506)

I´m totally confused. The story has always been that these "buyers" come to the Gaines´ with a home already purchased or at least under contract. The whole "show them 3 houses and then they make the decision" is just for the sake of the program. All decisions have been long made and the Gaines´ have nothing at all to do with that part.

The buyer also has to agree in advance to all the design decisions made by Joanna. That´s not such a stretch since she´s pretty good at what she does - if you love shiplap and kitchen islands!!

Somewhere or another I read the agreement that buyers sign with the program and the Gaines. It´s totally unambiguous.

This looks like a "deep pockets" kind of move. Can´t imagine what an attorney might expect of the production company unless they just figure to be paid a nuisance settlement to go away and stop causing negative publicity.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Safari Man, 7/11/2017 12:35:52 PM     (No. 11315522)

I wonder who they will get to do the repairs? I doubt Chip will be excited to help them much.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JoniTx, 7/11/2017 12:40:02 PM     (No. 11315527)

Another article regarding this story, from the Daily Mail, UK:


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Reply 15 - Posted by: jjs, 7/11/2017 12:43:38 PM     (No. 11315532)

I live in Waco, like the area. Like any area you have to decide where you want to live in the community. Sounds like this couple watches too much tv and needed to get out in the world a bit.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 7/11/2017 12:59:26 PM     (No. 11315545)

If the owners had previous experience with drivers blasting thru a T intersection, why did they not put up some decorative, but effective, barriers?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/11/2017 1:23:05 PM     (No. 11315568)

Across from bars? Yeah?
Deep pockets.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Penney, 7/11/2017 1:33:07 PM     (No. 11315578)

The Gaines present several houses in different locations to present to the buyers from which to choose. The buyers then make their own choice from the houses which they are shown and have toured personally. The Downs made their own choice.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: cheeflo, 7/11/2017 2:07:39 PM     (No. 11315611)

This happened recently near me. A small house located at a junction in a nice neighborhood has a history of cars failing to stop at the traffic light and crashing straight into the house. Years ago, the owner put a gigantic rock out front as a barrier. The house was vacant for a long time, but was occupied by renters when a single car ran the light, hit the rock and was launched airborne, crashing through the roof. Alcohol was involved.

The damaged house was right next door to a house being renovated by Nicole Curtis for her show Rehab Addict.

It can happen anywhere. And, as others have pointed out, buying a house across from a bar has its own risks. I don´t see any culpability on the part of Fixer Upper.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 7/11/2017 2:11:23 PM     (No. 11315614)

Personal responsibility in Leftists is virtually nonexistent right now. It is not trendy to use your own eyes.

Attacking Christians and calling them money grubbers is very uncool. God expects His obedient to take care of themselves and their families. That is not money grubbing. That is called a work ethic.

I would say that 99.999% of America knows that you do not buy a property across from a drinking establishment. The Gaines do not talk you into buying a property, they leave that to you, or they work with you after you have bought a place already.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NancyD, 7/11/2017 2:13:49 PM     (No. 11315616)

I knew what couple this was before I went to the extra link provided by a poster.

This couple seemed a bit odd to me from the get-go. I recall that their neighbors had an old rusted abandoned windowless van parked in the driveway when they 1st looked at the house!

I always look at the condition of the neighbors homes when I watch this show. This one was a dump and THEY had 3 choices of homes and THEY picked this house.

If they are that dumb, that is THEIR problem.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: thelmalou, 7/11/2017 2:16:30 PM     (No. 11315617)

I saw this episode, and we agreed it was way too much money to put into a house in such a neighborhood. The camera shots were tight against the house, but you could still glimpse the less-than-thrilling houses on either side. And you could tell something commercial was nearby, but not what exactly. These people´s whining makes them sound like complete dorks. Full disclosure is part of real estate...der.

The people don´t always have a property already picked out. As far as the Gainses showing them property in such an area, they didn´t have to sign on the dotted line.

RE: #6 - I´m all about snark, but geez.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/11/2017 2:20:01 PM     (No. 11315620)

Read the article. They have been renting the house out and trying to profit off of having a Gaines remodeled home. The should have checked out the neighborhood, end of story.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mickturn, 7/11/2017 2:27:06 PM     (No. 11315624)

Had a friend put a down payment on a house I knew was in a high crime area...he didn´t have a clue. I told him to check the police reports for the last 6 months. He did and canceled the purchase.

DO your HOMEWORK, you never would guess that really nice house is a block away from a high crime ´source area´...as Willy Sutton said, I rob banks cause that´s where the Money Is. You buy a house near a high crime area and you become a HUGE target! Buyer Wake Up!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/11/2017 2:44:09 PM     (No. 11315643)

drive thru a neighborhood on the weekend and at night. knock on a few doors. talk to neighbors. do your homework. this is probably the biggest expenditure in your life - some people spend more time researching tires than they do a real estate deal...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Annie xango, 7/11/2017 3:09:24 PM     (No. 11315675)

I believe someone on this thread has their thong in a twist

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Reply 27 - Posted by: texpub, 7/11/2017 3:48:42 PM     (No. 11315709)

Caveat emptor. These people are looking for a quick buck.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: arkfamily, 7/11/2017 3:57:16 PM     (No. 11315716)

Excuse me #6, "bible-quoting money grubbers" is going a bit too far. I am certain these two people have helped out many a people and put a lot of sweat equity into it too. Since calling them names seems to be your thing, what have you done to help out many a people and put sweat equity in?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 7/11/2017 7:19:04 PM     (No. 11315910)

Oh please, leave Texas if you don´t like the "wild west."

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Reply 30 - Posted by: annie xango, 7/11/2017 7:23:33 PM     (No. 11315913)

sorry for the second post...but....I am a Realtor...50 yrs..and I call horse apples!!!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: EAJ123, 7/11/2017 8:09:36 PM     (No. 11315935)

I saw this episode and the homeowners were thoroughly dislikable people...especially the dullard woman with an attitude...and it did occur to me that when they picked this house on the spot that neighborhood apparently wasn´t important. The couple were presented as elite re: smarts, et al and this has about as much ring of authenticity as anything Chuck, the liar straight from hell, Shumer says on any given day and at any time.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/12/2017 2:04:28 AM     (No. 11316141)

If you go online, you can see crime stats for your area.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/12/2017 9:13:09 AM     (No. 11316369)

These poor victims of Chip and Joanna´s greed need to leave Waco and move back to Rio Linda.

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Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown of California compared President Donald Trump supporters to prehistoric cave dwellers Monday during a New York climate event. Brown, an outspoken Trump critic, issued an usually harsh derision of Trump supporters after dismissing the president’s rhetoric on climate change science and U.S. policy toward North Korea as “stupid and dangerous and silly.” “They’re both kind of very similar,” Brown said. “You should check out the derivation of ‘Trump-ite’ and ‘troglodyte,’ because they both refer to people who dwell in deep, dark caves.” Brown attended the climate event, which coincided with the U.N. meeting in New York,

Watch: James O´Keefe Announces New
Investigation: MSM Members Will
´Lose Their Jobs´

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Daily Wire, by Ryan Saavedra    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/19/2017 12:21:02 PM     Post Reply
Filmmaker James O´Keefe said on Monday that Project Veritas will be releasing the results of one of the largest investigations the organization has ever conducted. The Project, said O´Keefe, will lead to people being fired. "In the coming weeks, you’re going see one of the biggest investigations this organization has ever done," O’Keefe said. "It’s a continuation of American Pravda series. It’s aimed at the media. We’re going after their holy grail." "We have tripled our journalists in the field," he continued. "They are not even here, they are out there everyday. It’s gonna be big, it’s gonna be massive.

Gun-Wielding FBI Agents Busted into
Manafort’s Home While His Family Slept

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Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/20/2017 12:24:54 PM     Post Reply
Armed FBI agenst with guns drawn busted into Paul Manafort’s home as Manafort and his wife lay in bed. The FBI agents insisted on searching Kathleen Manafort for weapons — after they barged into her home. This is Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ FBI. Sessions needs to go now. (Tweet) The New York Post reported: Gun-wielding FBI agents busted into Paul Manafort’s home as he was asleep in bed and even searched his wife for weapons, it was revealed Tuesday. Agents took an unusually tough approach in executing a search warrant, dealing with potential financial crimes by President Trump’s former campaign chief,

Reporters shaken by Trump´s tough
talk against North Korea

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Washington Examiner, by Eddie Scarry    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/19/2017 11:35:16 AM     Post Reply
President Trump disturbed some in the press after vowing in his United Nations speech to "destroy" North Korea should the country attack the U.S. In his speech, Trump referred to North Korean President Kim Jong Un as "Rocket Man" and said he was on a "suicide mission" in advancing the country´s nuclear weapons development. "The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea," he said. On Twitter, MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell said Trump "threatened to commit a war crime" by threatening North Korea.

Wiretaps may prove Trump right —
and that’s absolutely terrifying

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New York Post, by Michael Goodwin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 9/20/2017 4:42:23 AM     Post Reply
Over the years, a curious habit has taken hold at the United Nations. A body designed to strengthen the best of humanity has too often become a font of doublespeak and appeasement that protects the worst of humanity. That tragic comity was shattered when President Trump played the skunk at the garden party and dared to tell the truth. Many truths, in fact. Among them, that Islamic terrorism is a scourge that must be stopped. That Iran is controlled by a “murderous regime” bent on getting nukes. That North Korea’s “Rocket man is on a suicide mission” and the United States “will have

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