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The Democrats’ Religion Problem
New York Times, by Daniel K. Williams

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Posted By:danvillebill, 6/24/2017 2:07:29 PM

Carrollton, Ga. — Jon Ossoff’s defeat in Georgia’s Sixth Congressional District election on Tuesday wasn’t just a sign that Democrats may have a harder time winning in the Trump era than they had hoped. It is a symptom of a larger problem for the party — a generational and racial divide between a largely secular group of young, white party activists and an older electorate that is more religious and more socially conservative.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin, 6/24/2017 2:30:05 PM     (No. 11297370)

Blaming the bigoted Southern Christians, as opposed to the carpetbagger, pajama-boy, non-resident candidate representing the Party of No Morals.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 6/24/2017 2:46:17 PM     (No. 11297384)

It might help the Dem Party if their secular ´activists´ didn´t openly despise and belittle Christians, especially white Christians.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lucky5, 6/24/2017 3:03:58 PM     (No. 11297398)

The problem is the only religion they have is climate change and virtue signalling. Oh and killing babies.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 6/24/2017 3:38:40 PM     (No. 11297436)

We all started out as good little socialists.

But survival of the species requires that excellence must prevail and only honest competition produces that excellence.

The sabotage of the Scientific Method is the most damaging thing possible.

The allotment of privilege in the name of ´Equality´ ranks second in criminality.

It´s no surprise that those who have done so much harm would then prohibit free speech.

Millions have died in the defense of lesser crimes than those imposed upon us now.

I say: "Cry havoc and loose the dogs of WAR."

....or explain to my grandchildren what, in Hell, happened and why we laid down and let the crazies run the country.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 6/24/2017 3:40:27 PM     (No. 11297439)

Daniel K. Williams has made significant contributions in the past to establishing historical truths that fall between (or in conflict with) both political parties. I don´t know him personally, but my impression is he is a Christian, determined to research, publish, and speak the truth regardless of whose toes get stepped on.

That makes me wonder if there is some intended tongue-in-cheek in this editorial. Williams says the Democrats current religion problem is that--unlike previous generations of Democrats--young, secular Democrats don´t know how to camoflage what they believe with religious sounding language.

So in the matter of style vs. substance, Democrats have a religion problem when their style reveals their substance.

Intentionally or not, this article is a reiteration of Rush Limbaugh´s longstanding accusation that Progressive Democrats CAN´T say what they really believe or what they really want to do, because they´d only get 20% of the vote!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: cThree, 6/24/2017 4:41:22 PM     (No. 11297477)

"Progressive Democrats CAN´T say what they really believe"

Because they really believe most Americans are despicable. They hate us. They really do. The vulgar endorsements of violence that one after another of them keep "apologizing" for when they´re caught -- that´s what they really believe.

That´s also why progressive audience laugh too hard when a speaker dips into f-bombs, or jokes about crude vengeance against conservatives. It´s laughter curdled with hatred. It´s not genial.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 6/24/2017 4:50:22 PM     (No. 11297486)

This writer is really straining to define past Dem Prez candidates as being Christian:
McCarthy and R. Kennedy were Christians because they "found inspiration in the church’s teachings." (Being inspired by teachings does not a Christian make)..."Jimmy Carter was a Southern Baptist deacon who regularly taught an adult Sunday school class during his 1976 campaign for president" (Teaching a SS class doesn´t make one a Christian. One wonders what he taught since he was personally against abortion, but didn´t deny women the right to kill their babies)...

"Jesse Jackson, who won several primaries in 1984 and 1988, was an ordained minister." (How many boxtops did he send in for that ordination? Maybe his love-child knows.) "Al Gore was a Southern Baptist who had attended divinity school." (If THAT makes him a Christian, then why didn´t Palin´s small colleges make her a qualified candidate? I´m not arguing that Gore absorbed divinity at school...just that he absorbed the candy kind, not the spiritual kind.) "Bill Clinton had deep roots in the Southern Baptist tradition" (I guess if your parents and grandparents were Christian, you´re automatically deemed a Christian)...
"Hillary Clinton frequently cited her Methodist faith as a source of her values." (Do the Methodists realized that they´ve just been libeled? Wait - does this church of the rainbow flag realize anything?) "And Barack Obama, despite a secular (read Muslim)upbringing, learned to speak in the theological cadences of a Protestant Christian tradition while attending a progressive African-American church in Chicago." (Speaks like a preacher, so he must be a Christian. Attended a "progressive" church. May the progressive god bless him.)
Pretty weak case you make, Mr. Writer, that these Dem candidates are/were Christian.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Italiano, 6/24/2017 5:01:42 PM     (No. 11297492)

Maybe if they stopped booing God at their conventions and stopped ranking Christians higher on the violence and intolerance scale than they do Muslims, they could fool more people.

And sorry, Daniel, but Obama is about as "Christian" as Bill Maher. Rumor has it that he wanted to borrow Bill Clinton´s 25-pound never-opened Bible, but couldn´t lift it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: citizen, 6/24/2017 5:41:43 PM     (No. 11297523)

Second sentence brings the "racial divide".
Not sure it matters but Carrollton, Ga. is in the 3rd Cong Dist. also with a Repub Rep.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 6/24/2017 5:57:27 PM     (No. 11297548)

I fear, #7, if you´d continued quoting from the article you´d have eventually proved the falsity of your own accusation.

Does the writer even ONCE say that any of the Democrats he mentioned is or was a Christian?

I think Williams knows what a Christian is, because he took great pains in the article to avoid conflating being a minister, Sunday School teacher, church elder, or seminary student with actually being a Christian.

Williams´ point was that these older Democrats had rubbed shoulders with Christians and knew how to come across like one--a rather damning compliment among most voters.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2, 6/25/2017 3:39:43 AM     (No. 11297829)

No wonder demonrats are hell bent on killing off all the old people as not being useful anymore...

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