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The dirty tackles, head-butts
and upsets: A history of the
83-year U.S.-Mexico soccer rivalry

Los Angeles Times, by Kevin Baxter

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 6/11/2017 6:49:07 AM

The U.S. played Mexico in soccer for the first time in 1934, winning 4-2 in a World Cup qualifier. It would be 46 years and 25 games before the U.S. would win again. But in the last 17 years what had been a hopelessly one-sided competition has become one of soccer’s most spirited rivalries, with the U.S. going 13-7-5 since 2000. The rivalry will be revived Sunday when the U.S. heads to Estadio Azteca, Mexico’s imposing home fortress in the suburbs of the Mexican capital, for a crucial World Cup qualifier. Times soccer writer Kevin Baxter spoke to nine retired players, from

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: thebeez, 6/11/2017 6:55:15 AM     (No. 11283170)

Mexico must be the greatest place to live in the world. I know this because they keep coming here and trying to make America just as Third World as they are.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: StormCnter, 6/11/2017 7:21:14 AM     (No. 11283181)

Several years ago, we happened to be in Mexico City the day Mexico defeated Canada in the World Cup. There had been rain the night before, so the air was clear and fresh, joyous Mexicans were clogging the streets in celebration and long lines of cars with people riding on the roofs and hoods were streaming up and down the downtown areas, horns were honking everywhere and even bells were ringing in the cathedral. It was noisy and happy and memorable.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ByteGuru, 6/11/2017 7:44:34 AM     (No. 11283194)


So many things working against the USA team ... dense smog makes it hard to breathe, usually stifling heat despite MC being over a mile above sea level. And of course any American is taking their life in their hands simply by venturing into Mexico. For the players the threat of injury is doubled because of the fans throwing anything and everything at the USA players during play.

All three of my sons played soccer here in S Texas. I was shocked the first time one coach cautioned his players to keep their heads on a swivel whenever we played a team that was largely hispanic. It was his opinion that dirty play was part of their training regimen. And after seeing several slide tackles aimed at the knee or crotch instead of the ball, I understood the warning.

Apparently to some hispanics soccer is not simply a matter of life or death; it is for more important than that.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 6/11/2017 7:57:19 AM     (No. 11283200)

I happen to catch part of the games both teams played on Thursday night. Our team is embarrassing to watch because being a "great" country, with lack of real interest in football (soccer), we don´t tend to field any good players. What defines good? Pulisic (USA) at 18, who makes millions now playing for Borussia Dortmund (Germany), who just won the DFB Pokal Cup, a big deal. Playing football for a major team in England, France, Germany, Portugal or Spain is like "the Big Show" (MLB) in baseball. The skies are the limits in salaries and major endorsements.

As for Mexico, they are a "scrappy" playing team that I don´t enjoy watching, as most inferior country teams that don´t have world class players (those that play in Europe) are. It was excruciating trying to watch them play against Panama to a 0-0 result with all the fouls on both sides last November. The biggest advantage Mexico has is the dirty air and 7,200 feet altitude that messed with Honduras when they played Thursday night and lost 3-0.

My team is Iceland, since these "minnows" destroyed England last year in a match that humiliated the country on home grass that brought football worldwide into the "modern" era. Iceland plays Croatia this afternoon. Can't wait to hear the "war" cry.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: coldborezero, 6/11/2017 8:55:16 AM     (No. 11283233)

Soccer. Meh.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: msjena, 6/11/2017 8:57:08 AM     (No. 11283234)

The rivalry no one ever heard of before. Well, maybe in Mexico...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: droopydog, 6/11/2017 9:00:17 AM     (No. 11283237)

Less than three months until real football starts.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: brianod1, 6/11/2017 9:26:33 AM     (No. 11283260)

Another fascinating soczzzzzzzzzzz.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Namma, 6/11/2017 9:35:10 AM     (No. 11283276)

It´s a game. Not a war
Want to talk war. Let´s. Who won the last Mexican American war.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ken M., 6/11/2017 11:11:40 AM     (No. 11283352)

The Calgary Stampeders play the Edmonton Eskimos in a preseason game tonight at 7PM ET. It´s on all five TSN channels.

http://www.tsn.ca/

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Highlander, 6/11/2017 11:15:31 AM     (No. 11283353)

I, with my Mexican-born wife, was in TJ when soccer fans swarmed the streets, delirious over their national team winning the gold against Germany. Flags were everywhere. It made me a bit nervous, for sure.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: dvc, 6/11/2017 11:40:12 AM     (No. 11283372)

Sure, I hope we beat Mexico, entirely sick of their thieves coming here to steal jobs, medical care, education and welfare. Anything to put them in their place is good. Go USA!

But, I am sorry, no matter how you cut it, a game that runs for hours and frequently has only one or two goals is BORING, BORING, BORING.

Tried to watch soccer a few times, but watching paint dry is more thrilling.

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