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Trump Pushes GOP Health Care Bill
as Conservatives Revolt

Real Clear Politics, by James Arkin

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Posted By:danvillebill, 3/8/2017 3:15:24 PM

The unstoppable force of Republican promises to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act ran headfirst Tuesday into the immovable object that is conservative objections to key tenets of the legislation. Which side gives ground in the coming days could determine whether the GOP succeeds in its long-standing goal to overhaul the health care system. The stalemate, one day after Republicans released their long-awaited plan, quickly put the future of the legislation on shaky ground. Speaker Paul Ryan guaranteed his party would have the votes to pass the plan, while conservative lawmakers insisted that they have the votes in both the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 3/8/2017 3:17:55 PM     (No. 11182966)

This should make for spirited, hopefully informed, discussions that will achieve a good bill.

He knows what he’s doing. He also knows they’ve dilly-dallied around for years.

Along with everything else, he’s a first rate border collie!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 3/8/2017 3:28:05 PM     (No. 11182982)

It´s a dumb bill. He´s getting bad advice. Bannon should know better.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 3/8/2017 4:00:19 PM     (No. 11183021)

I can see that Ryan and his crew are back to business as usual. Mr. Trump was elected precisely because the voters are more than fed up with business and usual, RINO lies, and all that "jazz".

Simply repeal Obamacare! That takes us back to the status quo ante. Begin afresh from there with free market mechanisms like health savings accounts, interstate sale of insurance, individual states setting up risk pools for the hard cases, etc. Get the feds out of it... including all the add-ons that are part of Obamacare like student loans, etc.

It is time that Republican legislators started listening to their constituents! My Senators and Congressman have already heard from me.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rockytop, 3/8/2017 4:13:09 PM     (No. 11183041)

Two things:
1.) It´s all about passing a bill and checking off the list
2.) You can´t just "go back to the way it was," as those insurance markets and related policies have has been decimated by Obamacare.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: plex, 3/8/2017 4:24:08 PM     (No. 11183062)

As long as there is no mandate and you are allowed to buy any insurance policy offered with no coverage mandates and no pricing mandates (like community rating), the rest doesn´t really matter. HHS can eliminate all the regulations that came from Obamacare at will.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Susannah, 3/8/2017 4:40:51 PM     (No. 11183086)

Well, given that Trump himself Tweeted yesterday that the bill was "wonderful" (his word) and that Kellyanne Conway confirmed today that he´s "totally behind it," I would think that all ardent Trump supporters would be totally behind it, too. Why the complaints? Trump says it´s great; therefore, it´s great.

I have to admit that the rationalizations for Trump totally betraying his base are amusing. I can´t wait for the contortions we´ll be treated to when he doesn´t build the wall.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JansGraphix, 3/8/2017 4:45:39 PM     (No. 11183091)

The GOP wants RINOcare for us, the ignorant masses. And if they get it, republicans will be ´on the hook´ for all future malfeasance and blame for 0bamacare-lite care. Congress has the across state lines free market care. We shall never be allowed to have the same as the ´elite´ have. After all, they are so much better and wiser than ´we the people´ who elected them. /s

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Cherrybark, 3/8/2017 4:56:43 PM     (No. 11183107)

Ryan has introduced this as step one of a three part plan to dismantle Obamacare. He says this is the phase he can pass now without Democrat support.

Step Two is handled by Health and Human Services head Tom Price, who despises Obamacare. He now has the authority to completely rewrite all of the regulations related to Obamacare, effectively dismantling it.

Step Three, requiring a super majority or some Democrat support, heads into such topics as selling across state lines.

Ryan makes a reasonable case. Problem for me is I absolutely don´t trust Ryan - not one bit. And, the repeated promise from Trump and the Republicans was to get rid of Obamacare. Now they are all squishy with "making it better" and adding a new tax credit that will never go away.

The Obamacare web has tendrils across dozens of agencies. It needs to be ripped out like the cancer it is! Some people will have huge insurance problems. Lay that at the step of the Dems who passed this monstrosity that Americans don´t want. Anything less will be a huge disappointment.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: TXknitter, 3/8/2017 5:17:00 PM     (No. 11183142)

Right on, #7. Not only that, I doubt the party realizes just how many conservatives only consider themselves Republicans now because of the hope that President Trump and VP Pence will drain the swamp and return our government to us. They will have a mass exodus from the party if they double-cross us on this issue.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: dvc, 3/8/2017 5:47:16 PM     (No. 11183179)

1. No tax credits.

2. Shrink Medicaid back where it was before ZeroCare.

3. Remove restrictions on interstate sales.

4. Repeal ZeroCare, 100%

Then STOP, step back from the lectern, LEAVE US ALONE!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dvc, 3/8/2017 5:50:13 PM     (No. 11183181)

Sorry, not buying the "Step 2 and Step 3" BS, they will never happen.

Just like their amnesty would be followed by strict border enforcement, but never was.

No way, they have blown their trust entirely, there is NO trust left, we have been screwed by the Repubs too many times.

All in one bill. Mostly get the heck out of the market, leave us ALONE! No socialized medicine.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mushroom, 3/8/2017 5:52:18 PM     (No. 11183186)

In the last two missives from RNC they had ´surveys´ and in each of them Obamacare repeal AND replace was a choice for action, never just repeal. I don´t even fill them out because they will simply claim most want repeal and replace, doesn´t matter if you cross out anything in the line. I am very tired of being lied to and then the have the gaul to beg for cash.
So Ryan, where are those repeal bills you guys marked up but never submitted because you were afraid? Lied about that as well, didn´t you?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 3/8/2017 6:57:32 PM     (No. 11183234)

I love how Trump is behind this, but his supporters don´t like it and blame only Congress. And, Chucky Doll and Pelosi are loving the drama.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: MFM, 3/8/2017 9:18:40 PM     (No. 11183362)

Trump is letting Ryan hang on this one, he can´t smack him in Public, only support...This bill will go nowhere..

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