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The Spy Revolt Against Trump Begins
Observer, by John R. Schindler

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Posted By:TunnelEffect, 2/12/2017 5:01:37 PM

In a recent column, I explained how the still-forming Trump administration is already doing serious harm to America’s longstanding global intelligence partnerships. In particular, fears that the White House is too friendly to Moscow are causing close allies to curtail some of their espionage relationships with Washington—a development with grave implications for international security, particularly in the all-important realm of counterterrorism. Now those concerns are causing problems much closer to home (snip) Our Intelligence Community is so worried (snip) it is beginning to withhold intelligence from a White House which our spies do not trust.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JustCause, 2/12/2017 5:20:10 PM     (No. 11153345)

Hey John, are you making this up out of thin air and using the meme, ´un-named sources´?

Name names...

Sorry, I don´t believe there is a Spy Revolt. There may be a revolting ex-spy that might not like The Donald, but, my friends in the law enforcement community are very happy The Donald is our President and not Mrs. C and especially thankful that the O is out of office.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: saryden, 2/12/2017 5:20:50 PM     (No. 11153346)

More fake news? Any facts to back up these statements? Attempting to delegitimize a legally elected president is sedition... and should be punished accordingly.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: hpmatt, 2/12/2017 5:22:23 PM     (No. 11153350)

Unlike sharing sensitive info w House ´Intelligence´ Cmte hacked by Muslim Brotherhood IT democrat contractors...

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Reply 4 - Posted by: plex, 2/12/2017 5:24:25 PM     (No. 11153355)

Makes perfect sense to withhold intelligence from the person making the decisions.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: thelmalou, 2/12/2017 5:35:52 PM     (No. 11153370)

Schindler was always a NeverTrumper...voted for McMuffin if memory serves. Smart guy but hates DT.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jl80863, 2/12/2017 5:41:01 PM     (No. 11153380)

Yep, just like the mass defection of senior State Department officials. Ouija board news.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/12/2017 5:45:53 PM     (No. 11153390)

I do not believe a thing this article says.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: harper, 2/12/2017 6:07:49 PM     (No. 11153401)

No doubt there is a significant infestation of muzz friendly Dimmis everywhere at fedgov, including at the CIA etc.

Galvanizing these Dimmis as "spys" or other useful, patriotic folks is just more Dimmi smoke and mirrors.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: O.G.´s Mom, 2/12/2017 6:45:41 PM     (No. 11153440)

The problem here is even if some of this is true,the press has been so thoroughly discredited by their over the top bias against Trump, as well as their conspiring with the Clinton campaign during the election, that I certainly don´t believe anything anymore that is sourced from them. The author cites The Washington Post and CNN as his sources. Really? REALLY? Are you kidding me?

Moreover, because the Obama administration thugs are peppered through the federal bureaucracy combined with campaign contributions that showed they were Hillary supporters, who can believe anything these bureaucrats have to say?

Truly, this is a dangerous situation because trying to keep a curious mind, what if even a modicum of some of the accusations is true? I don´t believe they are true, but for argument´s sake, information has been so corrupted that we cannot believe anything anymore. Very, very dangerous.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: jdwill, 2/12/2017 7:19:53 PM     (No. 11153465)

#9 hit it right on the nose! Good! Never believe anything you see, hear, dream, imagine, guess, in forming your honest Citizen´s opinion! Research the sources, and there are many fairly reliable news sources around, but one must look for them, and use a bit of logic and rationality when choosing! Poor pity bitter, commie Dems! Having been fed so much BS over the last 8 years that no one knows which way is up, anymore!!!! President Trump, and his honest staff and Cabinet, have the immense task of, yes, DRAINING THE SWAMP, which may take a few more days! God bless America!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: PoppaCharlie, 2/12/2017 8:06:10 PM     (No. 11153490)

Google "John R Schindler" and you will find out why the guy is a flake.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/12/2017 9:37:00 PM     (No. 11153553)

Well they claim that a bunch of US intelligence agencies were bugging the Russian Ambassador´s communications systems along with General Flynn´s telephone. If that is true, the intelligence people who leaked such information would have been releasing highly classified information in an unauthorized manner and would be subject to arrest and criminal prosecution. Investigations should have already been started.

Sounds like fake news. It was not against the law for General Flynn or any other American to talk with the Russian Ambassador, even about the sanctions that President Obama initiated against Russia. At the time that supposed conversation occurred President Trump had been elected and was waiting to assume office and at that time neither Trump or his future staff had any authority to lift those sanctions. To this day Trump has not lifted any sanctions against Russia.

After Trump was elected, Obama should have consulted with Trump when he decided to impose those sanctions a couple of weeks before leaving office, but apparently Obama did not, and in effect planted a minefield in Russia and USA bilateral relations that Trump was going to have to navigate after assuming office. So why would not Trump want to ask the Russians not to overreact to Obama´s last minute sanction imposition?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Quigley, 2/12/2017 9:39:03 PM     (No. 11153555)


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Reply 14 - Posted by: mabelkitty, 2/12/2017 10:12:47 PM     (No. 11153599)

NeoCons spreading fear and doubt to try and put pressure on his support base.

They´ve never had to live in an economy hollowed out by Clinton, and illegal criminals pushed into our schools and neighborhoods.

Nothing scares me any more.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: BarryNo, 2/12/2017 10:14:11 PM     (No. 11153601)

The U.S. Espionage service is a tool of the U.S., first formost and always. If there are U.S. intelligence agents who wish to argue the point, they need a bullet in the head. It´s not open for debate. It´s not acceptable for you to decide policy.

You tell us where the threats are. We through those we elected will decide what to do about them.

Personally, though, I think this is more fake new. The field personnelcould not have been happy with an Administration that treated them like expendable tokens to advance the Administration´s political careers.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ida lil, 2/13/2017 1:07:00 AM     (No. 11153699)

Currently spies are someone who sits around gathering info from devices and the old fashion ones -- Those hands on operators are too few.
Probably for now the best ones belong to the military as only they put America first.
Since P. Trump is running circles around and over his progressive enemies we can bet the revolting ones are all merely secret squirrels as the military intelligence agents used to call them.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: suejeanne, 2/13/2017 6:13:20 AM     (No. 11153780)

I smell a rat -

surely members of our intelligence community were worried about the low regard the Obama administration held for those who put their lives on the line - the cavalier approach to information security that endangered people, operations and eroded trust

1. Benghazi
2. CableGate - State Department cables from 1966 forward were hacked - HOW did they become hacked? Surely since the days of Dean Rusk, they sere in a vault under lock and key but SOMEHOW were put on Hillary´s server to become hackable.
3. The role of Seal Team Six in the raid on Osama Bin Laden´s compound
4. The revelation of the identity of the doctor in Pakistan who helped in the confirmation of the location of Osama Bin Laden
5. The lack of oversight exercised by the House Permanent Select Intelligence Committee chaired by Mike Rogers (he decided to not seek another term in Congress and went on to become a television producer for CNN´s program, "Declassified"). Why didn´t this House committee under his chairmanship do anything about CableGate or Benghazi?
6. The failure to act on a warning from Russia about the Tsarnaev Brothers

these are just a few things that were worrisome - why would the intelligence community want to see Hillary Clinton as Commander in Chief?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dagger, 2/13/2017 6:49:14 AM     (No. 11153803)

This has the smell of ground work to blame Trump for any terror attack that can be traced back to the influx of refugees from the countries covered by the EO and botched by the 9th circus. Anything to give air cover for those fools in black robes.

The media and clear thinking dems ( a small no. to be sure) know full well the danger that lurks.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 2/13/2017 7:05:56 AM     (No. 11153828)

My problem is that I don´t trust our intelligence agencies.

Sure, I trust them to uncover the occasional plot and the characters behind it. That can save lives.

But I don´t trust them for the big picture. They try to predict what China or Russia will do. What Iran will do. What ISIS will do. I don´t think they can do any better than I could by observing the past, sitting in front of a crystal ball, and filling in the huge gaps of getting to the future with my opinion.

They then act like not following their advice will lead to doom for the Country. They are making educated, and sometimes biased guesses and they can sometimes be quite wrong. It´s like business analysts predicting (often with bias, remember Windows 8?) the market with absolute certitude, being completely wrong, and companies that believed them going out of business.

What these agencies fear is someone like Trump not hanging on their every word and acting on it. If they are being cautious it is because they don´t want to be exposed as simply guessing at what they are saying.

Predicting the future is NEVER certain, even when those that do INSIST that they are sure of their predictions.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/13/2017 8:53:21 AM     (No. 11153992)

No problem, move on to the un-employement line.

IT´s not if you had not already screwed up everything by thinking Lib...Don´t let the door hit you in the arse on the way out!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: MattMusson, 2/13/2017 9:19:43 AM     (No. 11154027)

White Hats vs Black Hats.

This started before Trump was elected. There are two warring factions in the Intelligence community. Trump threw in with the Generals who were willing to fight against the system.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/13/2017 9:26:12 AM     (No. 11154034)

These sorts of ´inside beltway hit-pieces´ seem to occur at the inception of every Republican Presidency (never Democrats), and are usually instigated by some thin-skinned ultra-political, Democrat hack, higher-level appointee who runs his mouth to any sympathetic journ_O_list, until he scores a hit (e.g. Mr. Valerie Plame). These are the pampered ´princes´ of the Beltway Bourgeoisie.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: geoguy, 2/13/2017 10:10:54 AM     (No. 11154105)

Are we to believe that our spooks supported 0bama more then Trump when Zippy was willing to give away the store on our missiles? Remember when he was talking to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev?

“This is my last election,” Obama said. “After my election, I have more flexibility.”

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Reply 24 - Posted by: qr4j, 2/13/2017 1:20:15 PM     (No. 11154345)

I cannot take seriously anyone talking about security issues the Trump Administration allegedly has when Hillary is still NOT LOCKED UP for using a private email server with less security than a gmail account.

Want to talk about inattention to security? Talk Hillary and her damned server. Talk Hillary and Benghazi. The list goes on and on and on.

Fake news.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: pa104inf, 2/13/2017 2:30:43 PM     (No. 11154447)

Didn´t seem to bother these same people when Obama was friendly with Russia.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Butch59, 2/13/2017 2:45:53 PM     (No. 11154472)

The thing that jumped out at me was the author´s continue use of the name SIGINIT. That was a secure phone system in use way back in the 60´s and 70´s. Now, I do believe that our ability to encrypt a phone system has gone far beyond that time of history. Just consider, the telephones used on Air Force 1 are not capable of interception. The President can converse to whom ever any place on the planet and not be intercept. And trust me, so can high up intelligence officers.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/13/2017 7:06:53 PM     (No. 11154779)

Fine, IF it is true, and I don´t believe most of it, do an internal affairs investigation and if you find any, life sentence at Gitmo. That should make the reports come fast and furious.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: NotaBene, 2/14/2017 3:24:38 AM     (No. 11155146)

I want the scalps of the FBI guys who recorded this and leaked it to the NYT and WP.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: winnie1, 2/14/2017 5:38:11 AM     (No. 11155172)

I´m sure the phones are bugged by orders of Obama. Donald time to fumigate the White House, The State Dept. EPA Dept. Homeland Security Dept. IRS Dept. Pentagon Dept. FBI Dept. immediately!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: winnie1, 2/14/2017 7:06:30 AM     (No. 11155209)

It wouldn´t surprise me if that little Beady Eyed Rep. Adam Schiff (D) who serves on the Intelligence Comm. is the leaker. This guy is not every TV station 24/7 ripping Trump.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Dreadnought, 2/14/2017 7:47:00 AM     (No. 11155259)

The game is afoot at the Kushner Observer. The WSJ asks this morning if the Foreign Intelligence Service Court ok´d (or not) the monitoring of Mike Flynn and if so, what was the justification. Flynn is an American citizen who was not protected by a signit minimization procedure. It´s weaponized intelligence.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: fed-up, 2/14/2017 8:20:55 AM     (No. 11155306)

If these calls were monitored by our IC, then we have all the information we need. This call that is getting all this attention was leaked by Brennan and the hold overs from the Obama administration. It is sad this had to happen, but once there was blood in the water, you knew the sharks were not going to stop coming at him and therefore Trump.

We will know soon enough how deep the leaks go. But the sharks will be waiting for more blood thats one thing we can count on.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Sarr, 2/14/2017 8:31:14 AM     (No. 11155321)

CNN = ´C´ertainly ´N´ot ´N´ews

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Reply 34 - Posted by: bobgray2, 2/14/2017 11:11:51 AM     (No. 11155507)

While I don´t believe in a wholesale revolt, keep in mind that most "spies" are not of the James Bond or Jason Bourne variety. Many are analysts recruited out of Ivy League universities where they majored in political science, or something with the word "studies" attached to it, as well as a thorough liberal indoctrination. So there may be a grain of truth to the story.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: ocho reales, 2/14/2017 11:24:45 AM     (No. 11155530)

And we are supposed to believe this fellow who was fired from the Naval War College for posting a racy picture of his anatomy online? Get real folks. This guy is a fraud and will always be a fraud. He has zero credibility and now thanks to being unable to control himself he has a very limited future. Want the story? Google this guys name.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: winnie1, 2/15/2017 6:45:13 AM     (No. 11156347)

I would be more inclined to not trust the Intel.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: starboard, 2/15/2017 1:18:31 PM     (No. 11156853)

This is much larger in scope and with more tentacles then we have ever thought imagined. Our government is at risk with these far left hate radicals. They, along with Obama will try to overthrow the trump government and then implant Obama back into the White House.
If you listened to Rush today. There´s something the Left is trying to hide about the Iran Agreement. Now if I were a real journalist, that would be my quest, to go after a story that would surpass the Blue dress or Watergate.
This problem with the New Leftoid party is not going to go away. Fox News is keeping us preoccupied with platitudes and excuses, but they´re just trying to play it safe. The old Dems are done. They´ve been replaced by bad hombres. It´s almost as though they´re the
U S Version of ISIS. Sorry to say, but I don´t have a good feeling about this.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: leonardo, 2/15/2017 4:42:45 PM     (No. 11157123)

The Trump team needs to start punching back, HARD.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 2/15/2017 10:31:08 PM     (No. 11157514)

Does anyone believe that the same Intel dorm room behavior are also capable of withholding critical Intel like another 9-11? And could this be what these same non professionals did to President Bush? I worry that it could happen again by conspiracy.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: jdwill, 2/16/2017 7:27:13 AM     (No. 11157748)

Beyond amazing what the "nether world" will stoop to!!!!

The "big bomb" should take care of this mess, but it will take a bit of time!

Fight fire with fire, it does say at the bottom of the page!!!

Dems, the commies, h´s minnows, are fast cooking their own goose! They don´t seem to be able to make the connection, poor chaps -- do think there´s "counter-leaking", and "counter-whatever" going on inside whatever h thinks is his herd!!!! Do it!

Two can and do play the same game!!!!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Elvira, 2/17/2017 2:30:34 PM     (No. 11159717)

#26 I don´t know about an encrypted phone system called SIGINIT, that was before my time. I do know that the acronym terminology now is SIGINT for signals Intel, HUMINT human (on the ground) Intel, GEOINT is now used for satellite intel. There are others, just can´t think of them right now. Who knows what will be thought up next.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 2/17/2017 7:09:11 PM     (No. 11160096)

When will the "leakers" get prosecuted? It has been very dismaying to me that obvious law breakers never go to jail. Never get investigated. Could there be some fear in the camp that POTUS and his justice department will go after any and all of the treasonous, seditionists in our government? Not holding my breath. I wish, wish that Trump will actually do something. Punish punish. Now one must assume that 0bama left a bunch of "land mines" when he left office. Every now and then one will go off, like Gen. Flynn conversations being leaked. THe 0bama nightmare is not over. I guess it will go on for at least 8 years.

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On the grassy slope of a fjord near the southernmost tip of Greenland stand the ruins of a church built by Viking settlers more than a century before Columbus sailed to the Americas. The thick granite-block walls remain intact, as do the 20-foot-high gables. The wooden roof, rafters and doors collapsed and rotted away long ago. Now sheep come and go at will, munching wild thyme where devout Norse Christian converts once knelt in prayer. The Vikings called this fjord Hvalsey, which means “Whale Island” in Old Norse. It was here that Sigrid Bjornsdottir wed Thorstein Olafsson on Sunday, September

Democrats Come Up With a Practical
Way to “Banish” Trump: Witchcraft

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PowerLine, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
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Tonight is the big night: all across the country, witches will gather to light candles and mutter incantations in hopes of evicting President Trump from the White House: "Men and women from around the world are planning to gather and cast a spell at midnight that will stop President Trump from doing harm while also possibly banishing him from office." (Snip) The idea is that these witchcraft events will continue until Trump is “driven from office.” There is a chant, too. It begins: Hear me, oh spirits / Of Water, Earth, Fire, and Air / Heavenly hosts / Demons of the infernal

George W. Bush´s daughter will
headline Planned Parenthood fundraiser

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Washington Examiner, by Anna Giaritelli    Original Article
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Barbara Pierce Bush, daughter of former President George W. Bush, is slated to deliver the keynote address at a Planned Parenthood fundraiser in Fort Worth, Texas, next week. Barbara Bush has previously expressed her support for abortion, a procedure that the government-subsidized healthcare group is well-known for providing to women. Next Wednesday, she will rally financial support for the abortion provider at its annual luncheon. Barbara Bush is no newcomer to health issues. The youngest of the former Republican president´s two daughters is CEO and co-founder of Global Health Corps.

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