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US Senate passes measure to take
first step in dismantling Obamacare

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Posted By:PageTurner, 1/12/2017 5:22:54 AM

US senators have passed the first measure on the way to dismantling outgoing-President Barack Obama’s much debated health care law, commonly known as Obamacare. Early on Thursday, the Senate voted 51-48 in favor of a nonbinding Republican-backed budget measure that will make it easier to pass repeal legislation, which could be voted on as early as next month. epublicans plan to get rid of the law and replace parts of it by the end of February, according to House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, speaking on “The Hugh Hewitt Show”, a conservative radio program, on Wednesday. Other Republicans, however, say the

I love it! Our long national nightmare may really be coming to an end!


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Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 1/12/2017 5:39:07 AM     (No. 11105464)

Repeal is needed. Replacement, not so much. Sorry, but covering preexisting conditions IS NOT insurance but some sort of "rider." Keeping kids on a parent´s policy is fine, but kids reach the age of consent at 18. Health insurance was available BEFORE Obamacare and will be after as well. I think health insurance caused the HUGE cost of getting well after being sick. I´m old and possibly I can´t see the forest for the trees....?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mushroom, 1/12/2017 5:59:47 AM     (No. 11105478)

Non-binding. How is this helpful?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Tehtriggerman, 1/12/2017 6:41:03 AM     (No. 11105505)

When do we get our refunds?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: privateer, 1/12/2017 6:43:40 AM     (No. 11105508)

Why not pull an Alinsky on the dhims? Force the plan to live up to its promises. 1. give each family a check of $2500 per year for the savings lying barry claimed a typical family would get. 2. you are free to return to the doctor you formerly had and liked. 3. you may return to the plan you formerly had and liked. If doctor or plan no longer are available, you are free to quit ozerocare and find a policy on the open market.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/12/2017 6:57:02 AM     (No. 11105519)

Non-Binding. Isn´t that McConnell´s nickname?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 1/12/2017 7:06:50 AM     (No. 11105532)

Previous insurance was weighted against the self-employed. It gave lousy coverage no matter how much you paid. Covering pre-existing conditions is not an entitlement, but coverage should be available, but NOT at standard rates.

Pre-existing conditions could be covered in a pool among all companies and then become affordable but not cheap. A friend who had coverage paid off $450K because his insurance (self-employed) paid only $30K for his wife´s conditions that led to her demise. I paid $6000 when my wife had some health problems. The insurance would not pay for "diagnosis" though I had the policy for years. What?????

There are ways to fix all this without 30K pages of crap in husseinCare. Repeal this nonsense. It´s criminal theft from all Americans.

And #4, I´d go for the $2500 check each year if it came out of hussein´s, piglosi´s and many other cretin´s who "represent us" pockets. Coming out of OUR pockets would again be theft!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: winnie1, 1/12/2017 7:11:05 AM     (No. 11105535)

Open the State boundaries now for people to purchase insurance like you would do for car insurance. The polls showed 85% were happy with our old plan. Once you make it competitive prices will reduce. You will have to figure out what to do with people who have pre-existing illness maybe form a risk pool. A lot of people who have this condition are complaining now they are not being treated anyway, so Obamacare is not working. I think Trump is the only one who can negotiate with the Insurance companies and make a fair deal.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: MoBeef4u, 1/12/2017 7:20:16 AM     (No. 11105545)

Health savings accounts for the small stuff coupled with a high deductible major medical policy for the big stuff. This basic formula would work for the majority which is how all insurance has to be designed. There can be ways devised to handle the rare exceptions. Also allowing 18-26 year-olds to be covered by their parents´ plans is counter productive. These are the ones who should be paying a modest amount while they´re young and healthy against future need when they´re not. It´s not that hard unless people want it to be.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/12/2017 7:22:11 AM     (No. 11105548)

It may be non-binding but at least it´s a thumb in the eye of smidgen BEFORE he even leaves office.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JansGraphix, 1/12/2017 7:36:45 AM     (No. 11105562)

Replace ´parts of it´?

That´s what I was afraid of.

These clowns just won´t let go of ´control´ and ´power´ over the voters. They just won´t go back to free market principles. Maybe 30%. Maybe 50%. Maybe 70% of what we used to have.

But NEVER give 100% free market, free choice back complete to the electorate, LIKE THEY have. NEVER!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Highlander, 1/12/2017 7:42:22 AM     (No. 11105571)

Non-binding doesn´t mean diddlysquat if it´s still tax-supported. We don´t need it and we don´t want it. It´s just a colossal stinking pile of doggy do.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: strike3, 1/12/2017 8:24:37 AM     (No. 11105637)

Zerocare was not about healthcare coverage, it was about government control and all parts should be thrown out immediately because they are all worse and more expensive than what we had before. Solve the problems of outrageous costs accrued through unnecessary tests and treatment to avoid litigation, outlaw the ambulance chasers and open the state lines. Force doctors with bad records out of the system. This still won´t make the perpetually ill happy but taxpayers are not obligated by the Constitution to make them happy. Require that people stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs and gaining hundreds of pounds through overeating before they get the first treatment for anything. The same people who drain us for food stamps, EBT cards, free education, etc. are also the ones that overburden the healthcare system. They need to be restricted and inconvenienced, not the working taxpayers.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 1/12/2017 8:33:48 AM     (No. 11105660)

The fact that the legislators we voted for, or a little more than half, didn´t read it is ridiculous but what led to total disaster was Pelosi, Reid and Obama did not regionally develop the system and fix the mess before it went national. It was as if they wanted the health care segment of the economy to collapse. But it hung in there for the improvement and fixes needed.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/12/2017 8:33:58 AM     (No. 11105662)

Okay; Think- In my time as a worker, I had a great job whichh as a Benefit, offered H Insurance via Kaiser Permanente. My co-pay premium was $80.00 a month. The company failed after I had been there six years. We had two kids in that era and my wife came down with early onset arthritis for which se was take some expensive meds- without insurance cost us $190.00 a month. I got a new job, but, not nearly the good job I had. It paid less and the insurance was not nearly as good. And, the new insurance would not cover my wife´s pre-existing condition, plus my oldest son´s asthma, which was diagnosed a few months before I had lost the good job. We were overwhelmed with medical expenses. We actually cold not make ends meet. I took a second job and wife had to go get a job- child care expenses practically sucked that income up. Why should that happen in this society? All we needed was continuation of our health insurance. It took us ten years to recover from that disaster and some families never recover. And it is a very common thing for American families. That´s what needs a fix. Not what Gruber and Emmanuel and the Democrats did. Instead, they fixed a crack in the dry wall with a bulldozer.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: privateer, 1/12/2017 9:30:58 AM     (No. 11105751)

Apologies for not including the sarcasm \ in my reply at #4. I don´t think there is ANY chance of those points being enacted.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 1/12/2017 9:32:33 AM     (No. 11105757)

Obamacare just changed who the uninsured people will be. It used to be that the poor showed up at free clinics and the hospital and were never turned away. The problem was that they had no insurance for elective procedures. Now they have free obamacare because of their income level, and I have no insurance.

When I realized that paying $700/month for a very high deductible insurance got me nothing all year but a free mammogram, I chose to go uninsured. You can usually get a discount for self pay, because they don´t have to deal with insurance.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 1/12/2017 9:36:13 AM     (No. 11105769)

What no one is mentioning - -

- - is that the "success" of "20 million" enrollees is because enrollment is MANDATORY! You enroll - - or you go to jail!

Nice business model, ain´t it? Buy my product or we´ll take you away. Not so hard to be "successful" with a scheme like that.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Arby, 1/12/2017 10:37:27 AM     (No. 11105862)

I hear the strains of a death knell. It makes me feel alive.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: NotaBene, 1/12/2017 10:52:26 AM     (No. 11105886)

I had great insurance with ÆTNA. Still work at the same good job but as soon as Obamacare started our gold plated plan got downgraded to Blue Cross with a second company for dental. Copayment up, services down. I liked my plan, could not keep my plan. Period. In the meantime California insured millions of illegal aliens I what is simply an expansion of Medicaid to the undeserving. They pay zero dollars because of subsidies to paupers, while the self-employed pay and pay. Medical treatment for the poor was ALWAYS available at health clinics, emergency rooms and county hospitals. No one died in the streets in California before Obamacare.

I am so glad that this Obamacare nightmare will be terminated. Health savings accounts will revive the economy because the money from the healthy will be invested.

Mitch McConnell is our Senate leader and I am well pleased with him. Thanks to the 51 senators for holding together.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/12/2017 11:41:13 AM     (No. 11105995)

IMHO, what is needed is to form a committee made up of doctors, nurses, hospital personal, insurance personal and come up with a working plan that will do what the majority of the people can be happy with. And to add, get rid of that idiotic idea of not being able to purchase a policy out of state. In a few words, get health care out of political hands. Not very many of them are doctors or any other healthcare givers.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/12/2017 11:51:01 AM     (No. 11106012)

I am for keeping Obamacare, but only if it applies to all federal workers - including current and former congress members, the Executive Branch and the SC members. Let´s force them to live by the rules they forced on the private sector!!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dvc, 1/12/2017 1:00:25 PM     (No. 11106143)

Chip, chip, chip. Like repainting a battleship, first you chip off the old paint, bit at a time.

After a while, you have it stripped down, the rot removed and next you cover it with a nice new coat of paint.

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