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Judicial Watch:
DOJ Admits Lois Lerner’s Emails Exist

National Review Online, by Joel Gehrke

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Posted By:Doctor P, 8/25/2014 3:32:34 PM

A Justice Department official admitted that former IRS official Lois Lerner’s apparently missing emails actually exist on a backup server, but the government doesn’t plan to retrieve them. , “A Department of Justice attorney told a Judicial Watch attorney on Friday that it turns out the federal government backs up all computer records in case something terrible happens in Washington and there’s a catastrophe, so the government can continue operating,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told Fox News’ Shannon Bream. “But it would be too hard to go get lois lerner’s emails from that backup system,” Fitton continued, paraphrasing the DOJ official.

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Lots of folks should go to jail and lets see how hard it is to get the email then


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Reply 1 - Posted by: jhpeters2, 8/25/2014 3:39:01 PM     (No. 9980514)

It isn´t hard to retrieve back up data. Why bother backing it up at all? It is hard to face the facts the backed up data will do to 0bama.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: planetgeo, 8/25/2014 3:40:47 PM     (No. 9980516)

So those of us who have been insisting exactly this (i.e., that ALL the disputed emails do in fact exist on some server or its backup) are correct. Now the question is, why has it taken months to even have this fact acknowledged?

Jail time is in order.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: lancelink1, 8/25/2014 3:43:56 PM     (No. 9980522)

Let´s all try this with our tax returns next year.

"Yes I had income but figuring out your tax form was too hard so I won´t be filing".

Think that will fly?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 8/25/2014 3:45:53 PM     (No. 9980525)

That´s an amazing admission , just proving that all the Government officials that spoke about the emails in point were, in fact, lying,
or simply repeating what they were told like the good little Democratic sycophants they are.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: august9, 8/25/2014 3:49:32 PM     (No. 9980527)

Actually #3, something will fly-----------the IRS order of attachment of your assets!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bpl40, 8/25/2014 3:51:10 PM     (No. 9980530)

Next time the IRS wants back ups for my expense receipts and I claim they are too hard to get?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 8/25/2014 3:53:00 PM     (No. 9980535)

Getting The Emails from the backup server is hard, but not as hard as my new cell mate.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: nimby, 8/25/2014 3:54:47 PM     (No. 9980537)

And the Judge couldn´t force them???

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Reply 9 - Posted by: roger h. cook,MD, 8/25/2014 3:58:36 PM     (No. 9980539)

Why is this such a big surprise? Are all thegovernments departments so dumb? The MSM is however or so they act like it.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mitzi, 8/25/2014 3:58:56 PM     (No. 9980540)

What´s the point of backing up if they can´t be retrieved?


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Reply 11 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 8/25/2014 4:00:38 PM     (No. 9980542)

Perjury is a crime so start the arrests.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/25/2014 4:01:05 PM     (No. 9980543)

justice delayed is justice denied

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 8/25/2014 4:03:35 PM     (No. 9980547)

Apparently there needs to be a few indictments first before we see if they can be retrieved.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 8/25/2014 4:05:00 PM     (No. 9980551)

It would have been easier to ask Edward Snowden or Julian Assange. Might have been a problem getting them paid.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 8/25/2014 4:08:15 PM     (No. 9980560)

A month or so ago a Federal Judge requested a sworn affidavit re these systems in response to the Judicial Watch lawsuit. Looks like the DOJ could find no one willing to commit perjury to this judge. Things will start to unravel now.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: texaspast, 8/25/2014 4:10:11 PM     (No. 9980562)

Yeah, I think I´ll try that response to a Request for Production - ´Yeah, we have those emails, but they would be hard to get at, so we aren´t going to produce them.´ I know exactly what most district judges would say to that.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: comstock, 8/25/2014 4:16:32 PM     (No. 9980568)

Well, then, just permit access to all the backups to Judicial Watch and let them search for the files. But these criminals would never do that. JW might just uncover a lot of other illegal activity.

What the IRS is really saying is "We have to read and censor every item (and maybe lose a few more) before we hand them over, and that would take forever."

The judge should just grant JW general discovery, and order the IRS to open their files to them.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Momma Walton, 8/25/2014 4:32:20 PM     (No. 9980589)

Wonder what would happen if we would bond together in prayer and see the glory of God appear as in old times. He alone knows the heart/mind/soul/spirit of everyone. This administration continues to challenge US to make a stand for righteousnes! How about it. Let God have His way! We have tried man´s way and failed. How about the One who created us and knows what we need - all the time! He is the Great I AM! Faith casts out fear! Rise and be heard by the One who is able to deliver US from all evil, here and abroad!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: msjena, 8/25/2014 4:38:53 PM     (No. 9980598)

If they exist, they should have to produce them. There are plenty of IT geeks who would be able to retrieve them if the government can´t.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Muguy, 8/25/2014 4:54:40 PM     (No. 9980620)

The e-mails will be released in February 2016 when the crooks in the big white house are out of office and cannot be thrown out due to prosecution for perjury.

For transparency, this is the more corrupt group in my life time...forget Nixon, we have a new low!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 8/25/2014 6:23:49 PM     (No. 9980730)

Time to make government employees personally liable for their malfeasance.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: rugerman2242, 8/25/2014 6:26:33 PM     (No. 9980733)

Hello Mr. Issa,, how many lied to you under oath that they were gone? what is the definition of perjury? You have it straight from the horses a@@,(mouth) now, so what you gonna do? You have a smoking gun Sir!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: hebrew_hammer, 8/25/2014 6:40:54 PM     (No. 9980759)

The fact that DOJ admits this means the data has already been doctored.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 8/25/2014 7:09:11 PM     (No. 9980805)

I´ll bet ya when Judge Reggie Walton gets through with them they wont think it´s so hard to retrieve them. Those boys, the ones not serving time for contempt, will be falling all over each other fetching documents by the truck load for the Judge - all nice and neat, indexed and cross-indexed, clearly marked by subject and date, and all wrapped with a ribbon. Man-o-man this should stoke his fires. He knew they were lying and his last order was to tie them in a knot. Now he´s got them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: M2, 8/26/2014 7:20:10 AM     (No. 9981357)

So the DOJ, after all the lies Lois Lerner & Co. told at the hearing, admits the missing emails are not missing.

Here´s the fun part: Despite the fact that lies were told to the American people and to various hearings about those emails and about how there´s not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS, they are not going to cooperate anyway.

"..the government doesn´t plan to retrieve them", is what the DOJ told a Judicial Watch lawyer. In other words, "You want them? YOU try to find them."

The DOJ and this government are not going to help Americans find the truth about IRS persecution of conservatives. They won´t do it.

They are essentially telling Judicial Watch (God bless them) to stick it. In the process, they are telling conservatives, "You´re on your own and we will continue business as usual at the IRS, like it or lump it."

In short, conservatives and the GOP have just been put on notice that the IRS will continue to try destroying their ability to raise money for candidates and political advertising, which as I see it, is a violation of the First Amendment, wot?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Janjan, 8/26/2014 7:22:22 AM     (No. 9981362)

Those backups are for disaster recovery. They are not the type of backups you do on a single PC. It was a no-brainer from the beginning. Of course they had them. Now someone needs to direct IT to restore on to their disaster recovery servers. It would probably take 24-48 hours. Another day to find the data. JW could have everything by Friday. Send me in there. I will make it happen.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Arby, 8/26/2014 7:24:33 AM     (No. 9981366)

Their default position is to lie. Always.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: OhMy, 8/26/2014 7:25:36 AM     (No. 9981368)

This is why the founders set up three branches of government. Now is the time for the judicial branch of government to hold the executive branch of government accountable. Do It or you become responsible if some less civilized methods get used in the future. This is why you have that cushy job with generous pay. Now Do It ! !

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Reply 29 - Posted by: strike3, 8/26/2014 7:47:01 AM     (No. 9981382)

The IRS expected us to believe their first explanation because they are the IRS. They have since lost their ability to make us fear and respect them now that we know the entire organization is made up of fools, flunkies, geeks, bootlickers and affirmative action stooges.

It will fly, #3, if we all do it. That may be the only way to shut them down since they obviously won´t give up their gravy train on their own.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Udanja99, 8/26/2014 8:02:59 AM     (No. 9981399)

The judge needs to start is issuing subpoenas to the
IRS´s IT department employees today. Betcha we´d have those emails tomorrow. How hard could it be? I´m sure the IRS has its own search engine.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Rinktum, 8/26/2014 8:14:05 AM     (No. 9981412)

Is everyone´s head exploding too? They have the emails but they are too difficult to retrieve? Really? Between the article on immigration and now this one, I need to calm down. It is one thing to believe your government is totally corrupt but it is another when they shove it in your face as if to say, "Yeah, and what are you going to do about it!" Has everyone in Washington decided to ignore the law? What say you, politicians of both parties, does this abuse of power stir a response in you? If not, you are worthless cowards who stand for nothing. Party does not trump the rule of law.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Farmwife1, 8/26/2014 8:22:21 AM     (No. 9981420)

The elephant in the room: the information in those missing, destroyed, recovered emails can convict the whole pack of them. We know it and they know it.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Clinger, 8/26/2014 8:27:33 AM     (No. 9981425)

Vile and despicable people exist and will continue to exist. Our battle is with the decent people who have been brainwashed into supporting them. Your Democrat neighbor has no idea that this story broke because he or she doesn´t watch Fox or listen to Rush, Levin....



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Reply 34 - Posted by: congar, 8/26/2014 8:42:54 AM     (No. 9981446)

“But it would be too hard to go get Lois Lerner’s e-mails from that backup system,” Fitton continued, paraphrasing the DOJ official.

That’s a class orange jump suit lie coming from our Department of Injustice.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 8/26/2014 8:45:46 AM     (No. 9981452)

No one seriously believes those emails will be produced, do they?

They may exist, but they´ll never come to light.

The 0vomit administration considers itself completely above the law. We´re still waiting for Eric-The-Red to produce the information about Fast and Furious.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: geoguy, 8/26/2014 8:57:22 AM     (No. 9981474)

This revelation is HUGE!I haven´t watched the news in a few days, has it been reported on FOX?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 8/26/2014 9:04:50 AM     (No. 9981486)

Most serious computer geeks wouldn´t find retrieving those hidden emails too hard...impossible...or would take forever. No, to them, it´s a CHALLENGE, and nothing gets their geeky little hearts pumping faster than a challenge to their abilities. Send in the Geeks...

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Carolina Kat, 8/26/2014 9:07:59 AM     (No. 9981494)

Of course they exist - but it takes a long time to scrub out the many many incidences of unlawful behavior. When they are done with that they will get back to us.

Heads need to roll, but they won´t.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: brianod1, 8/26/2014 9:15:47 AM     (No. 9981503)

This is not news, as the NYTimes has chosen not to cover it.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: fed-up, 8/26/2014 9:56:58 AM     (No. 9981621)

The real problem now is timing. Holder will stonewall any of this until the last dog is out of office. He is too busy race baiting and protecting O to care about what is right for the country.

These people are just plain despicable. I´m so sick of them all.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/26/2014 10:04:13 AM     (No. 9981630)

Don´t you people understand?

There´s this enormous warehouse where all the e-mails are stored. And Lois Lerner´s e-mails are in these boxes way at the bottom against the back wall.

It would take an army division two years to unstack all those boxes to get to the ones which are at the bottom and in the back. The IRS doesn´t have the time or the resources to do that!

No, wait - - e-mails are just electronic blips. Hmmmm - - never mind.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Butch59, 8/26/2014 10:55:38 AM     (No. 9981691)

It´s not mentioned here in this article, but I wonder if this is the response to the Judge´s Aug. 22 deadline for answers to those e-mails? If it is, it really doesn´t answer the judge´s questions. And if this judge is as tough as I´ve read, then very soon there will be severe consequences meted out to some IRS employees. If and when it happens, I´ll dance in the streets.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: mc squared, 8/26/2014 11:08:01 AM     (No. 9981708)

We here at L.com knew this from the outset.

I suggest Issa get the IT people to testify. Preferably someone without a spouse or children at home.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/26/2014 11:37:18 AM     (No. 9981744)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/backups-for-missing-lois-lerner-irs-emails/

Judicial Watch statement

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Reply 45 - Posted by: zuker5, 8/26/2014 1:54:31 PM     (No. 9981984)

We´re going to have to put together a joint US Special Forces/SAS strike force to go in and get these files.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: tlsher, 8/26/2014 2:32:15 PM     (No. 9982044)

My thought exactly # 23! When they do finally release the e-mails, I don´t know if we can trust them to be the original ones.

If this story line doesn´t rise to the level of Watergate, I don´t know what would!

The media´s response? (Crickets)

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Reply 47 - Posted by: 4Justice, 8/26/2014 4:28:33 PM     (No. 9982169)

Next time the IRS tries to audit someone, I would like to hear everyone respond..."It would be too hard to get those records"

These idiots are constantly insulting our intelligence. Disgusting cretins all need to be incarcerated.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: CEP, 8/26/2014 8:04:44 PM     (No. 9982462)

Why are we paying these lazy (insert descriptive word here) and they admit they are just too lazy to retrieve the records.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Angry Dumbo, 8/26/2014 9:19:14 PM     (No. 9982536)

The impact of this story is reflected in the lack of coverage. This is the end for a lot of FTEs and politicians who will be forced under the bus to cover for our President. The fire wall will hold, the President will be shielded from this scandal to protect the narrative.

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Go to a grocery store in California and buy all the milk, eggs and vegetables you want. But there’s one thing you won’t find at the checkout line, beginning July 1, 2015: Plastic bags to carry your stuff home. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) on Tuesday signed into law a ban on single-use plastic bags, making California the first state to prohibit stores from using the ubiquitous carry-alls. Shoppers will be charged 10 cents for every paper bag and heavy-duty plastic bag they use. “This bill is a step in the right direction,” Brown said in a press release announcing his approval. “It

Lindsey Graham Mulling White House Run
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Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 10/3/2014 1:37:53 PM     Post Reply
The hawkish Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina says he is thinking about running for president in 2016. In an interview with Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard, the senator, running for re-election to the Senate this year, said: “If I get through my general election, if nobody steps up in the presidential mix, if nobody’s out there talking — me and McCain have been talking — I may just jump in to get to make these arguments,” Graham said. Graham, 59, also dismissed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, 43, as a presidential candidate, saying he is too young. “He’s a good

Hillary Gets Tocqueville
Wrong By 100 Years

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/2/2014 11:31:10 AM     Post Reply
Speaking at a Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors event last night, Hillary Clinton decided to talk about Alexis de Tocqueville. The problem? She got it wrong -- by about a hundred years. "There´s a wonderful phrase that was first used by Alexis de Tocqueville, who came to the United States in the very early 1930s and traveled around our country," said Hillary Clinton, a probable 2016 presidential candidate. "And he was so amazed at how Americans organized themselves -- you know, coming from aristocratic Europe, which was totally top-down and hierarchical -- he couldn´t believe how many of us were joiners.


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