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Ryan: Not ‘legitimate’ to tell country
House could stop Obamacare last year

Washington Times, by David Sherfinski

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 8/24/2014 7:36:42 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan said the notion that the House could have unilaterally stopped Obamacare through a government shutdown last year was not a plausible idea to sell the country on. The Wisconsin Republican was addressing a passage from his new book on CBS’s “Face the Nation” in which he described last year’s push toward a government shutdown — in which House conservatives unsuccessfully tried to defund Obamacare — as a “suicide mission.” The purpose of the passage in the book is to try to unify the party, he said, noting that he held back a bit more at the time with party unity in mind. “I don’t think we can succeed if all we do is

Sometimes politicos think that supporting some pivitol idea different from the herd will make them stand out. It does, but there is a basic truth. In Ryan´s case, he´s still a RINO, no matter whether he leads them (as McCain tries) or not.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: eoddad, 8/24/2014 7:43:42 PM     (No. 9979313)

Go away Paul ands take your book that ain´t selling with you.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 8/24/2014 7:53:04 PM     (No. 9979320)

This guy was a wart on Romney´s nose and now on the nose of the GOP. His logic goes something like this - the GOP needs to come up with better ideas but doesn´t so does nothing. What a genius. Maroon.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: plex, 8/24/2014 7:53:37 PM     (No. 9979321)

The House could and did shut down Obamacare for a while. They don´t understand messaging in the environment where the press is on Obama´s side. If the GOP takes the Senate I really hope that they pass a budget (you know one of those things that the Democrats have avoided for 4 years) with no Obamacare funding. Let Obama shut down the government with his veto.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: trapper, 8/24/2014 7:54:30 PM     (No. 9979325)

He COULD unify the Republican party AGAINST amnesty and FOR deportation of illegal aliens, since even legally-here Hispanics oppose amnesty and favor deportation. Everyone is already united behind these two positions. It only remains for Republicans to get aboard the pro-American juggernaut before it runs them over.

But no. Ryan is determined to pass amnesty for his Chamber paymaster.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: stablemoney, 8/24/2014 7:56:49 PM     (No. 9979329)

I am tired of republicans that tell me they can´t do anything. So please resign. We need someone that can.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fritzilou, 8/24/2014 8:32:43 PM     (No. 9979365)

The house could have refused to fund it. They have the power of the purse.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/24/2014 8:34:06 PM     (No. 9979367)

I like it, #5. You nailed it, buddy.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 8/24/2014 8:35:53 PM     (No. 9979368)

What Ryan is saying in a genteel manner is that Cruz, Limbaugh, Palin, Hannity and Jim DeMint lie to their followers by making phony assertions.
Anything passed in the House also has to pass the Senate.
And then be signed into law by Obama.
The 45 Senate Republicans cannot stop Obamacare without the help of 21 Senate Democrats.
That´s the real world , not the fantasy land of Cruz, Limbaugh, Palin, Hannity and DeMint.
All of whom have their hands out selling books, drinks, asking for contributions or trying to pump up their ratings.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 8/24/2014 8:45:00 PM     (No. 9979372)

You guys need to stop pointing out the blatantly obvious truth about the RINO Party. One of the resident RINO hens got her beak twisted up in a knot over your on the mark comments.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/24/2014 8:47:11 PM     (No. 9979374)

Do Nothings don´t have dreams. If others have dreams, Do Nothings call them fantasies.

"I know not how to assure you saving being one of full age and much severe experience, that you cannot fail if you resolutely determine that you will not" Abraham Lincoln

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Reply 11 - Posted by: oh-heck, 8/24/2014 9:00:56 PM     (No. 9979383)

I´m sick to death of the whiners. Nothing that Obama has done on Obamacare has been legitimate. He delayed the employer mandate because software wasn´t even close to ready. He didn´t have the means to verify income or nationality, a mess that may delay tax returns in 2015. Interfacing a state insurance pool with the federal pool turned out to be a disaster, so several more states have thrown in the towel. The law says the federal government may not give subsidies or assign penalties unless the state has established a pool. The IRS plans to do so anyway. Finally in rating their legal scholarship on a scale of 1 to 10, I´d give Cruz a 10, Ryan a 4 and Obama a 1.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ok state mom, 8/24/2014 9:21:06 PM     (No. 9979390)

The discourse on this site has weakened.

I was disappointed in Paul Ryan´s illegal immigrant stand and hurt by it.

He is, however, a good man.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Safari Man, 8/24/2014 9:24:36 PM     (No. 9979394)

So let me get this straight. In the "real world"...

1) Dimocrats get whatever they want

2) Republicans bend over and take it like a man.

Oh, okay, I guess ww´ll just be satisfied with that. I appreciate Paul Ryan going to great pains to tell us that IN YOUR NEW BOOK.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 8/24/2014 9:33:16 PM     (No. 9979403)

Next year Ryan will be saying the same thing about immigration.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 8/24/2014 9:36:46 PM     (No. 9979407)

Loser talk, from a loser. Poster above has it right, Paul Ryan should resign and allow someone else try with a winning attitude.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Norgay, 8/24/2014 9:39:33 PM     (No. 9979411)

For all the good he is doing for the tax paying middle class why doesn´t he just follow his heart an join the Democrat party an be done with it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Coy860, 8/24/2014 9:39:39 PM     (No. 9979412)

When did Ryan become a democrat?
He throws the bee ess with the best of them.
Has he not become one of THE most UN trustworthy men in Washington?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: faldo, 8/24/2014 10:02:44 PM     (No. 9979436)

Yo, Ryan...we´re aiming higher than just..."plausible"

We´ve got a country to save...you sound like you´re auditioning for the cover of GQ Magazine.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Tlyons1, 8/24/2014 10:05:25 PM     (No. 9979443)

#12..... All I can/ want to say is: thank you!! You are on the money!!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: curious1, 8/24/2014 10:26:29 PM     (No. 9979462)

Without money O´tard care can´t happen. The house provides the funds. The American people don´t want O´tard care to happen.

But our employees say, "Our hands are tied", somehow, kinda, sort-of, probably wouldn´t work.

We need new employees.

Anyone claiming the Republic would vanish or the debt not get serviced, etc., ad nauseum, if the government ´shuts down´ - hasn´t researched what keeps getting paid for and happening even if the government ´shuts down´ and listens way too much to the libtard indoctrination and lies (but I repeat myself) machine known as the media.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: loveUSA, 8/24/2014 11:15:28 PM     (No. 9979489)

What happen to Ryan. Years ago he sounded conservative. Maybe too much time with Mittens.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: nevernaught, 8/24/2014 11:27:34 PM     (No. 9979498)

Looking at the results of the last Presidential election, you two didn´t convince enough people of anything.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Citizen Plain, 8/25/2014 4:13:32 AM     (No. 9979599)

Another low t/hormone therapy candidate

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mws50, 8/25/2014 5:03:28 AM     (No. 9979603)

Is Paul Ryan really this stupid? The House did not shut down the government, Harry Reid and his democrats shut down a small part of the government by not allowing a vote for funding that small part of government. 83% of the government was never shut down. How could Ryan get this confused if he wasn´t stupid?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: judy, 8/25/2014 6:27:14 AM     (No. 9979630)

Ryan´s been around Boehner & Cantor too long. He was the wrong selection for Romney, You are supposed to select opposites. Christie should have been the VP selection. Peter King, Cantor, Boehner & Ryan have backbones like jelly fish. Did the Chamber of Commerce get to Ryan? Let´s not forget Ryan cut the military budget & left the entitlements alone.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: MissMolly, 8/25/2014 6:34:12 AM     (No. 9979637)

Well stated, #8. Of course Ryan is right. Cruz knew his effort was a feint, but many of his followers believed in it.

As for #9, Some playground is missing a third grader.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: judy, 8/25/2014 6:49:34 AM     (No. 9979650)

So is Ryan saying why vote for a republican they can´t do anything? I recommend pass the bills to show the republican strength & prove Harry Reid´s weakness for allowing the bills to sit idle in the senate. Ryan could at least be honest & say he didn´t try to stop obamacare because he wanted to ruffle any feathers.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: judy, 8/25/2014 6:54:33 AM     (No. 9979654)

He didn´t want to ruffle any feathers. Sorry.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: TXknitter, 8/25/2014 10:18:45 AM     (No. 9979940)

Ryan talks like a loser. Losers talk defeat instead victory. Losers can always give you a list of "why it can´t be done" instead of "why CAN´T we try?" Reagan never talked this whiny nonsense. I heard him on Medved´s show last week when we were in Seattle. Michael just slobberered all over his Senatorial spin and total lack of vision! He had no strategies for when or if R´s retake the Senate. He is another government drone satisfied with the status quo. The only way to get a rise out of these guys is when THEIR paycheck is threatened.

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/2/2014 11:31:10 AM     Post Reply
Speaking at a Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors event last night, Hillary Clinton decided to talk about Alexis de Tocqueville. The problem? She got it wrong -- by about a hundred years. "There´s a wonderful phrase that was first used by Alexis de Tocqueville, who came to the United States in the very early 1930s and traveled around our country," said Hillary Clinton, a probable 2016 presidential candidate. "And he was so amazed at how Americans organized themselves -- you know, coming from aristocratic Europe, which was totally top-down and hierarchical -- he couldn´t believe how many of us were joiners.

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