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To Kill or Not to Kill
All the Lawyers?
That Is the Question

Wall Street Journal, by Jacob Gershman

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Posted By:MDMuskrat, 8/18/2014 8:26:31 PM

The inscription on a novelty mug for sale at the Shakespeare Theatre Company´s gift shop in Washington always gets a rise out of veteran trial lawyer David Epstein. It isn´t the line itself: "The first thing we do, let´s kill all the lawyers." (snip) "I´m a lawyer. I get the ´humor,´ " he says. "But I don´t like this target on my back." Now, Mr. Epstein is among an unhappy band of attorneys who are toiling to, as they view it, set the record straight.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 8/18/2014 8:32:36 PM     (No. 9971091)

An honest lawyer marries a hooker with a heart of gold. New on NBC this fall!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 8/18/2014 8:38:31 PM     (No. 9971101)

The implication is not so much the lawyers, it is a charge against the law itself. Society strangles it´s self eventually. Complexity of law breeds lawyers and misuse of the legal system by the bevy of lawyers ends society. It is practically a calculable situation. How long before any social structure is so complex it simply can no longer function? Are we reaching our complexity end?

So, people sense something is amiss when they look around and realize the police state has risen out of that sea of enforceable red tape they have made for themselves. What to do? Don´t kill all the lawyers, - it is the society that needs killing. Like an aged cow that can no longer produce calves or milk. She must go to make room for the new breed.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 8/18/2014 8:53:33 PM     (No. 9971128)

Indictments like the one out of Austin against Perry give this quote validity. The rule of law is the reason civilization has evolved and thrived. Look where law is not respected, the old USSR, the Middle East, Detroit. All in decay or decline. But we the people are guardians of the rule of law, not courts or lawyers or even beloved dictators like Obambi. We can determine the law and enforce it through our efforts, resources and votes. WE should.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Italiano, 8/18/2014 8:57:09 PM     (No. 9971134)

As a blanket statement, clearly inappropriate, offensive and over the top. But add a few qualifiers (e.g., Justice Department, EPA, ACLU, DNC), and perhaps an argument can be made.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: PAdiva, 8/18/2014 8:59:30 PM     (No. 9971136)

Traditionally, lawyers are paid an hourly rate.
The new paradigm is to pay a monthly fee for a buffet of services.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Hotrod, 8/18/2014 9:07:47 PM     (No. 9971146)

The old saw still rings true:

´´99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name´´....

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Reply 7 - Posted by: snakeoil, 8/18/2014 9:14:01 PM     (No. 9971152)

Basically there are too many of them. If a town has one lawyer he will starve. If there are two they will get rich suing each other. What needed is a way to cut down on frivolous lawsuits. If you can´t handle your coffee don´t drink the stuff. And limits should be placed on appeals of criminal convictions. Nobody needs a plumber until their pipes break. Nobody needs a lawyer until they are being railroaded or sued for no reason. A relative of mine is being sued for $ 800k by an illegal alien who claims she hit her as she crossed the street on foot. Medical types found no evidence of any injury, no witnesses to the alleged accident, but the illegal alien has a lawyer who´s been working on it for two years. One of my favorite lines from the movies is True Grit: Mattie to Ned Pepper, Do you need a good lawyer? Ned Pepper to Mattie, I need a good judge.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lazlototh, 8/18/2014 9:24:41 PM     (No. 9971163)

I´ve been a lawyer for 29 years. One of my professors in the first year said to us that if verbal aggression made us uncomfortable we should find another career. He was right. The Shakespeare line doesn´t bother me and its usage out of context doesn´t bother me, and I like lawyer jokes, especially new ones. I don´t regret my career choice - it fits my personality. But there ARE too many lawyers, and our society has had much of its joy lawyered out of it through silly litigation and too many laws that criminalize us all. That´s good for my efforts to earn a living but not good for the country. We are better off if our talented youth don´t find a good future in law and are forced to deploy their talents in more useful and productive endeavors.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: agrunt, 8/18/2014 9:59:39 PM     (No. 9971207)

Shakespeare´s exact line ´´The first thing we do, let´s kill all the lawyers,´´ was stated by Dick the Butcher in ´´Henry VI,´´ Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73. Dick the Butcher was a follower of the rebel Jack Cade, who thought that if he disturbed law and order, he could become king. Shakespeare meant it as a compliment to attorneys and judges who instill justice in society.

Too many law schools and too many lawyers If you have too many of anything the value goes down -- but the price of becoming an attorney keeps going up. To pay your way this causes too many lawyers to cut too many corners -- too much done just for the money. No true "love of the law."

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Reply 10 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 8/18/2014 11:25:51 PM     (No. 9971272)

If it´s true that our country has 55% of the world´s lawyers*, then a bit of culling seems to be in order. [Killing does seem rather excessive. How about just making them teachers and cops in ghetto schools and neighborhoods?]

* Conrad Black, if I´m not mistaken.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 8/19/2014 12:28:19 AM     (No. 9971298)

The law in the US is too easily abused and if you invite abuse you will get it whether it´s used to harass someone or filing meritless suits. Spending over 40 years as an insurance agent allowed me to witness what amounted to legalized extortion.

It´s not necessarily lawyers that are bad it´s simply a system that can attract some unethical money-hungry people.

Sad to say religion is another area attractive to assorted scammers and charlatans. It also goes without saying that another career that lately attracts the worst of the worst these days is politics.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: harper, 8/19/2014 1:43:33 AM     (No. 9971329)

Not really the lawyer´s fault. Everyone thought closing all those bordellos was a great idea at the time, but all the unemployed piano players and sheet changers could only qualify for one other career, not being able to pass the morals test for garbage truck driver.

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