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Hawaii´s Governor Ousted in
Stunning Primary Loss

Associated Press, by Cathy Bussewitz & Juliet Williams

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Posted By:Flyright, 8/10/2014 8:16:03 AM

A 40-year political career came to a close after Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie lost his bid for a second term in a stunning primary-election defeat by a fellow Democrat and state senator who defied party leadership to challenge the incumbent. A second intraparty fight for U.S. Senate was too close to call. State Sen. David Ige, once seen as an underdog, cruised to a decisive 35 percentage point win in Saturday´s primary after being dramatically outspent by Abercrombie, who also had high-profile endorsements including President Barack Obama. Ige said his win "proves that people power can be money power, especially in Hawaii."


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/10/2014 8:30:23 AM     (No. 9960188)

A democratic equivalent of Cantor?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Jawone, 8/10/2014 8:34:13 AM     (No. 9960192)

Abercrombie will now have time for his true love: doctoring birth certificates.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: texaspast, 8/10/2014 8:36:08 AM     (No. 9960197)

This is what happens when the dem machine has it´s vote-stuffing operation interrupted by a hurricane.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: GoDeacs79, 8/10/2014 8:38:08 AM     (No. 9960200)

He knows more than Loretta Fuddy did. He needs to watch his back.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/10/2014 8:46:48 AM     (No. 9960209)

If anything this is the equivalent of an ANTI-Cantor vote as the Governor broke with the establishment.

One more victory for the dead icon.

"Abercrombie´s decision to appoint Schatz to the U.S. Senate seat after the death of beloved political icon U.S. Sen. Daniel Inouye, who died in 2012, also angered many Hawaii voters. Before he died, Inouye told Abercrombie that he wanted him to appoint Hanabusa to his seat."

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Reply 6 - Posted by: miceal, 8/10/2014 8:54:03 AM     (No. 9960221)

It would be interesting for y´all to see what Obama´s Grand Mother was doing in Hawaii before she retired....

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Reply 7 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 8/10/2014 9:04:30 AM     (No. 9960238)

Wow! This is huge. Thanks for letting us know!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: snakeoil, 8/10/2014 9:10:34 AM     (No. 9960246)

Miss the old commercial: How´d you like a little Hawaiian Punch. Since the ultimate winner will be a dim not much to celebrate.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 8/10/2014 9:34:10 AM     (No. 9960261)

I guess Obama´s endorsement is quite valuable - for the person running against his blessed candidate.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: strike3, 8/10/2014 9:51:55 AM     (No. 9960284)

Maybe the next governor will know where Obama´s real, unaltered birth certificate is. Not, at this point, that it matters.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird, 8/10/2014 9:54:58 AM     (No. 9960286)

Oh, frabjous day!!!

One of Obie´s primary volunteer henchpersons, jprotector of his birth information/misinformation.

Maybe there´s hope for Hawaii after all...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Emerson, 8/10/2014 9:56:32 AM     (No. 9960290)

Abercrombie and Cantor? I can´t see mentioning them in the same sentence.

Hawaii politics can make Chicago/Illinois politics look pristine.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 8/10/2014 10:18:46 AM     (No. 9960317)

Ige promised in a campaign flier that “there will be no name-calling when I disagree with anyone, no disparaging remarks toward anyone, no taking sole credit for collective achievements or blaming others when things go wrong.”
Soooo, does David Ige like Mr. Obama, because he just described him.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Hazymac, 8/10/2014 10:36:11 AM     (No. 9960335)

ISIL can either be killed now, or, after they consolidate their control of territory in the Middle East, they will waltz over our southern border and start killing Americans in their hometowns. Remember they have promised to do that, and we should take them at their word.

Obama´s total withdrawal from Iraq--and soon Afghanistan--will leave us in far worse shape than we were in fifteen years ago. Zero may not be interested in war, but it´s coming our way if we don´t do enough to help defend our would be allies. Every time we slither out of one bloodbath, a worse one later becomes inevitable.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Hazymac, 8/10/2014 10:41:04 AM     (No. 9960340)

Sorry, wrong thread. That said, I´m glad to see Abercrombie gone. Maybe there´s hope for Hawai´i.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Mushroom, 8/10/2014 10:42:26 AM     (No. 9960343)

#11 Missed his stop. (smile)

I have been told repeatedly that the Dims walk in lockstep and we should do the same for the Established Repubs...what happened here?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Emerson, 8/10/2014 10:55:19 AM     (No. 9960372)

Re #16, this was a primary election where Abercrombie was beaten by another Dem.

The notion that Dems stick together and vote for the candidate with the (D) after their name was about the general election. We have had numbers of people who refuse to vote for an (R) against a (D) when the (R) isn´t quite pure enough. So we got Obama. Twice.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 8/10/2014 11:14:09 AM     (No. 9960392)

Wow, Hawaii voted out one Dem and replaced him with another Dem. What does anyone think will change? It´s like replacing an Obama with a Clinton.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 8/10/2014 11:14:26 AM     (No. 9960393)

Six of one, half a dozen of another - "What difference at this point does it make"

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Agent Orange, 8/10/2014 11:53:02 AM     (No. 9960428)

I called Hawaii home for almost four years and it is as close to a third world country as you can get. If you are even a part native Hawaiian you get a free ride, the roads are filled with pot holes, the nepotism is unbelievable and Abercrombie looks like a toad and is about as smart as one.

After four years I couldn´t wait to get out of "Paradise" once and for all. I never plan on going back.

They tried to get nuclear power for the islands, but the locals killed it as they don´t want anything nuclear in or around their beloved island, but at Pearl Harbor, it is the home of 18 nuclear powered fast attack subs. Go figure.

They killed the high speed ferry that would allow cars and trucks to actually go to each island, but the long shoremens union killed it because it might bring lower cost labor from the other islands to Oahu.

Near Pearl harbor it took over five years to build a 200 foot long bridge on the Nimitz that crosses over a small creek. You pass a construction site and there are six workers and probably five or six Honolulu cops with their hands in their pockets. Not directing traffic, which is as bad as anything you will find on the 205 around Portland or LA´s freeways on the beginning of a three day weekend. If you live in West Oahu, and work in downtown Honolulu, it can take up to three hours each way, and it´s only about 18 miles.

Cheers....MSgt USAF (ret)

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Carolina Kat, 8/10/2014 12:06:24 PM     (No. 9960444)

Hawaiian chickens coming home to roost?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Carolina Kat, 8/10/2014 12:22:42 PM     (No. 9960462)

Oh and #17 - by not pure enough the conservative voters are not voting for a non-conservative. Every time the stupid GOP runs a moderate HE LOSES. You can either get mad at the voters whose patterns are not affected by your disdain or you can work to nominate a conservative that will get the votes. Does the GOP intend to repeat the mistakes of 2008 and 2012 by nominating another moderate? That would be the definition of insanity. Funny that, when a conservative runs, he wins. Methinks you are angry at the wrong part of the party.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: JediJerry, 8/10/2014 12:23:08 PM     (No. 9960463)

Now Neil can go back to doing what he does best. Jet ski tow in surfing Jaws at 40 feet and smoking Maui Wowie.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Emerson, 8/10/2014 12:47:40 PM     (No. 9960483)

Re #22, the best we can do is promote and vote for Conservatives in the primaries. But it they don´t make it, we shoot ourselves in the foot by showing our anger by not voting for whoever is the ultimate nominee in the General Election.

Those who sit out GENERAL (not primary) elections or threaten to vote for the Dem because they are angry about the nominee are the ones who are the problem. And those who are too lazy to actually get out and vote for Conservatives in the primaries.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/10/2014 12:52:29 PM     (No. 9960492)

I wouldn´t get too excited about this.

Ige is a sock puppet for the communist teacher´s union. Another commie in office - - no matter where or when - - is always bad news.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: thethirdruffian, 8/10/2014 1:27:51 PM     (No. 9960535)

Looking at the polling data, it appears closer to Obama vs. Clinton than anything.

There was a clear racist angle going on, certain races vote lockstep for people of their persuasion.

This is basically the same as Obama, who got 95% of the black vote against Hillary, which is statistically impossible except for race.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Polecat49, 8/10/2014 3:33:18 PM     (No. 9960657)

#22, the big trouble about so-called republican moderates is, that once they get the nomination they turn into not quite liberal, socialist democrats. If they would fight the demoncRATS as hard as they did other Republicans they could have won without outraging and losing their original Republican support.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 8/10/2014 3:42:28 PM     (No. 9960662)

IMO, Abercrombie more than richly deserved this defeat regardless of who delivered it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 8/10/2014 6:28:06 PM     (No. 9960770)

I give up #6. What?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Carolina Kat, 8/11/2014 12:19:46 AM     (No. 9960986)

We are not having an argument, it´s just that you don´t seem to see that your disdain has no impact and serves no purpose other that to vent your spleen. You will not ´shame´ a person into voting against their convictions. period. The only people who don´t understand that do not suffer from convictions. In a value neutral situation, I might agree that there is no reason for petulance, however the GOP/RNC funding and organization have not only not served conservative interests, they are fighting against them almost as hard as democrats. I didn´t leave my party, they left me. I always vote, but I can understand those who won´t as a matter of conscience, and I can only hope that someday those idiots in the Beltway Bubble come to terms with their ever-present losing strategy, and give their party BASE someone to support. Again, you are angry at the wrong part of the party.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 8/11/2014 12:52:39 AM     (No. 9961000)

Let´s count it as a win and move ´forward´


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Meghan McCain joined the dog pile on the Secret Service this week, saying she’s had “nothing but horrible experiences" with the agency and likening the agents to “glorified mall cops.” The 29-year-old author and television personality, who is also the daughter of former GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), opened up on Pivot’s “TakePart Live” about some of her interactions with the Secret Service. "I have nothing but horrible experiences with the Secret Service,” McCain said. “One of my friends called them glorified mall cops and I don´t think that´s terribly far off. I found them cliquey. I hated

Some Blacks See Secret Service
as Flawed Shield for the President

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New York Times, by Peter Baker    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 12:16:43 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland was at the grocery store the other day when he ran into an elderly black woman who expressed growing concern about President Obama’s safety. Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents? The furor that led to this week’s resignation of the director of the Secret Service resonated deeply among blacks, outraged that those supposed to be guarding the first black president were somehow falling down on the job — and suspicious even without evidence that it may be deliberate. “It is something that is widespread in

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