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Netanyahu too strong, Abbas too
weak for lasting peace, says Obama

Jerusalem Post, by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:Attercliffe, 8/9/2014 9:06:59 AM

Peace has to start with Israeli and Palestinians leaders, namely Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, US President Barack Obama told the New York Times´ Foreign Affairs columnist Thomas Friedman. [Snip] Obama worried that Netanyahu´s high approval ratings--which have jumped in recent weeks in the wake of Israel´s month-long operation in Gaza--could prevent him from making the difficult concessions needed to reach a long-term deal: "If he doesn’t feel some internal pressure, then it’s hard to see him being able to make some very difficult compromises," like the issue of settlements, the president said.

Comments:
Obviously, Obama is backing the Papa Bear-Baby Bear theory to explain the decades of fighting between Gaza and Israel. (Guess he´s never heard of Yassir Arafat.) And he adds in the rising popularity numbers for Netanyahu as a contributing factor. Of course, it´s not because Bibi´s doing the right thing./S

Who does he think he is--Mama Bear?


      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 8/9/2014 9:09:48 AM     (No. 9959072)

No, he´s definitely more the Goldylocks type coming into someone else´s home and thinking he can have whatever he wants with no consequences.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: grace1798, 8/9/2014 9:10:41 AM     (No. 9959074)

The only thing about Obama knowing what strong is ...is the strong ODOR of his presence and his madness.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/9/2014 9:14:16 AM     (No. 9959079)

Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you want peace, prepare for war" (usually interpreted as meaning peace through strength—a strong society being less likely to be attacked by enemies).

Of course, Obama attacks the concept as the anti-Reagan.

Worse, Obama attacks our allies and builds up our enemies.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jerseyden, 8/9/2014 9:21:18 AM     (No. 9959095)

If we ever had to have a foreign born president I wish it would have been Netanyahu instead of Obama.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pearson365, 8/9/2014 9:26:25 AM     (No. 9959102)

"Israel needs to find a way to coexist in peace with the Palestinians, Obama said, if it wants to preserve the values on which the State of Israel was founded. “You have to recognize that [the Palestinians] have legitimate claims, and this is their land and neighborhood as well,” he added."

Obama´s is clearly siding with Hamas and their Palestinian supporters. To Obama, the 3,000+ rockets and the 40+ attack tunnels were the result of Israeli disrespect for Gaza, and not Hamas and the Brotherhood´s hatred of Israel. Then again, when the US president is an admirer if not member of the Muslim Bro, what else can we expect.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: valinva, 8/9/2014 9:30:18 AM     (No. 9959109)

One leader too strong, one too weak. Kinda like Putin and Obama.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: web, 8/9/2014 9:38:15 AM     (No. 9959116)

For people such as Obama, the concept of right and wrong doesn´t even exist. Netanyahu is too strong because of approval ratings. The polls tell him he is right because Israelis are tired of being targets. They shouldn´t make any concessions or compromises. You can´t coexist when your neighbor just wants you dead.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hazymac, 8/9/2014 9:40:15 AM     (No. 9959118)

As an enemy of Israel--and he most certainly is--Obama is also an enemy of the Almighty (Genesis 12:2-3). He is the chaff awaiting the four winds to scatter it. The Administration´s obsession with the murderous Palestinians is a strategic and spiritual blunder of epic proportions. God´s going to cut these people down.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: miceal, 8/9/2014 9:43:07 AM     (No. 9959120)

Peace follows victory in war. Civilization 101 you ignorant dolt....

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chatham, 8/9/2014 9:45:13 AM     (No. 9959124)

Obama should be the last person to comment on anyone, Especially Netanyahu.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: chillijilli, 8/9/2014 9:48:47 AM     (No. 9959127)

In his effort to sound academic, he disclosed his entire world view: NO country should be stronger than another. And that includes America. There you have it, straight from his purple lips.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: dman, 8/9/2014 9:55:07 AM     (No. 9959133)

Yet, too many Jewish voters support this poser and his party.

Wake up, folks!!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: avital2, 8/9/2014 9:57:47 AM     (No. 9959137)

to the victor belong the spoils. re a lot of Jews voting for this disaster of a president, too bad many Christians on the right didn´t show up to thwart his victory in 2012, i say.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: planetgeo, 8/9/2014 9:58:02 AM     (No. 9959138)

Being in America under an Obama regime is like living in the movie, "The Three Amigos." Somebody needs to tell President Lucky Day that there really is an El Guapo and that he´s using real bullets.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney, 8/9/2014 9:59:22 AM     (No. 9959140)

Obama and Kerry have, and will have, nothing to do with Israeli´s negotiations. Netanyahu knows they are fools, and will ignore them, while going straight to the American people for the support he needs. Obama should be fired. How long will America tolerate high salaries to government and politicians with such awful performance?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bubby, 8/9/2014 10:00:09 AM     (No. 9959142)

Well that statement then makes you a fool obama. Dear God send us a strong leader like Bibi who loves and wants to protect and defend his country from all enemies foreign and domestic.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lonestarm3, 8/9/2014 10:01:25 AM     (No. 9959144)

Obama´s abiding contempt for the american public shines through in this latest wacky pronouncement. In effect, "...the fact that my approval ratings is so low means I must be doing everything right..."

Reminds me of the Wizard of Id comic strip when Sir Rodney says, "Sire, the peasants are revolting!
The King replies, "Boy, I´ll say they are."

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Jobe, 8/9/2014 10:07:58 AM     (No. 9959153)

How can there be "lasting peace" between two entities when one of them states publicly and often that its only goal is to make the other cease to exist? Only a liberal can be this stupid! Peace what happens after one side defeats and conquers the other. This situation will be no different.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: offrope, 8/9/2014 10:10:00 AM     (No. 9959156)

Most men learn in junior high school that if you don´t want to get your butt kicked, then don´t start trouble with someone who is likely to be able to do it. The entire "Guy Code" revolves around this simple concept. Hamas apparently never learned this.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tommyr, 8/9/2014 10:28:05 AM     (No. 9959195)

I´m sure the Mossad has reported to Bibi a history of Obama that the dems do not want available to American citizens...

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Reply 21 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 8/9/2014 10:32:19 AM     (No. 9959201)

It is infuriating to me just how willfully obtuse this man and all his leftoid comrades really are.

WHY haven´t they figured out by now that there NO territorial concession Israel can make that will bring about peace? WHY do they refuse to understand that this is an EXISTENTIAL struggle, and that Israel´s war today will be ours tomorrow?

I think we all know the answers: facile notions of moral equivalence, a self-indulgent refusal to accept moral responsibility, a reflexive 60´s era empathy with any non-Caucasian rabble, however savage or bloodthirsty - and just plain, old-fashioned Jew hatred.

I have a neighbor who is from Israel. He and I have discussed this situation several times, and in each instance he has urged me not to worry about Israel. He insists that his native country has a resilience and inner strength that Americans cannot understand. "We will survive Obama, and anything else that is thrown at us", he says.

Let us all hope and pray that he is right.






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Reply 22 - Posted by: oh-heck, 8/9/2014 10:36:04 AM     (No. 9959209)

Someone needs to lock ValJar and Obama in a room and explain the Middle East to them. Israel just gave back Gaza, did this lead to Peace? No, the Palestinians resumed firing rockets. Land for peace doesn´t work when the other side denies your right to exist.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 8/9/2014 10:36:10 AM     (No. 9959210)

You cannot negotiate with Muslims, whose sole intent is to destroy you. Period!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 8/9/2014 10:39:54 AM     (No. 9959217)

All posts here are outstanding and couldn´t agree more. Did you notice that every time there is another conflict the Arab world is totally silent? I wonder why. Question is: will the Jews in America wake up? If ovomit calls, Bibi should hang up the phone and if johnny gigolo shows up at the airport, do not let him in. Israel has to finish with Hamas now or never. Another cease fire is more time to reload.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: DMiller, 8/9/2014 10:51:41 AM     (No. 9959238)

The public needs to understand that Obama studied at Columbia under Edward Said, a Palestinian scholar and activist who reviled America and stated that ANYTHING the Palestinians did to fight Israel was acceptable. Obama is doing his best to hide his extreme Palestine bias and naturally it bubbles to the surface and reveals itself. This would all be self evident had our old media done their job of vetting our Democratic candidate with 1/10 the fervor with which they applied to vetting our GOP candidates. We now have a true Manchurian Candidate for a president. It drives me crazy to listen to political pundits continuously repeat "Why is he doing (whatever he is currently doing)" Wake up! He is doing it because he has a plan and that plan is not beneficial to America.
I met a couple Palestinians in Houston. They are foaming at the mouth angry, bitter, Israeli hating individuals. They grew up their whole lives being taught how vile Israel is. They never see anything Palestinians do as wrong. No matter how heinous. Remind you of anyone else?

Two thoughts:

1. Obama grew up surrounded by radicals his entire life. (and still is) GIGO Principal applies.
2. I will never forgive the media for foisting this left wing radical upon America. I would feel the same way about a right wing radical. We need a right leaning moderate just like the country itself.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 8/9/2014 11:08:42 AM     (No. 9959271)

#4 beat me to it, because I have been thinking the same thing for the last five years. If we ever had to have a foreign born president I wish it would have been Netanyahu instead of Obama.

I think a great many Americans would gladly exchange Netanyahu for Barry any day of the week. Of course, I would hate to do that to our #1 ally in the ME.

A truly smart Republican politician who really loves this country (we do have a couple) would try to emulate Netanyahu´s strength of character and commitment. We don´t need any pastel colors in our WH.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 8/9/2014 11:22:45 AM     (No. 9959309)

Every citizen of Israel could move into a 200 square mile area and tell the Pali´s, ´´You can have the rest of the country, let´s have peace.´´

We all know what would happen.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: rochow, 8/9/2014 11:30:17 AM     (No. 9959326)

The first jerk with his usual jerky barf bag comments. Unless this half idiot reads of the dummy prompter he really can´t state anything of note or intelligence. The first clown needs to be seen by a doctor, or we all have to see one. These befuddling comments must make Putin laugh his rear end of. But he took his measure of this amateur when he met him 6 years ago and Netanyahu probably does not pick up the phone when zero wants to talk to him!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: coyote, 8/9/2014 11:37:55 AM     (No. 9959341)

Hey Bam, do you think Hamus desire, no not desire, purpose in life, to kill all Jews might have something to do with lack of peace.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Highvoltage, 8/9/2014 12:11:48 PM     (No. 9959410)

This fits with Obama´s ideology: America is too strong for peace with the rest of the world, therefore he must weaken it. He has certainly weakened us but there is no peace. Just because there is no shooting doesn´t mean there is peace.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: lana720, 8/9/2014 12:15:51 PM     (No. 9959417)

Concessions from Israel; nothing but rockets from Gaza. That´s what zippy wants. It´s BS!
Force and strength are all the barbarians understand.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 8/9/2014 2:14:48 PM     (No. 9959564)

BO wants Israel so weak that they will acquiesce to the unacceptable.

This should be no surprise.

Liberals want everyone around to be so weak that they bend their knee to the government and liberal thinking. They hate business because it creates wealthy, independent people. They want more poor immigrants in the country and voting because they can "take care" of them to buy votes.

If Israel were weak, Kerry could come in with his ridiculous demands, Israel would cave in, and Kerry could get his peace prize.

The fatal flaw in the liberal plan is that government cannot take care of anyone well. Socialist countries have poor economies and therefore can not spend much to "take care of" the people. The simple reason for this is without the motivation of compensated success, no one is interested in building anything. Why bother? The only possible way to succeed is to allow enough business success and personal reward to fuel the state without allowing the power of the state to dwindle. China is trying to do this with some success but they face massive challenges as well.

As to Israel following this route, not likely. They are too smart with too much reality staring them in the face to follow false liberal ideology. Hopefully they will endure until 2017 and we have a new leader that has some intelligence and some bravery to deal with the Muslim problem.


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Reply 33 - Posted by: lil dotty, 8/9/2014 6:01:12 PM     (No. 9959757)

Oh Lord NO #26 We have had enough frilly pinks and yellow lemons to last a lifetime. We need BOLDER colors. Red White and Blue would be good choices. Signed..
a Conservative (enemy of baraq obomba)


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Reply 34 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 8/9/2014 9:21:50 PM     (No. 9959873)

#33 did you not understand what I said?
We don´t need any pastel colors in our WH. I was agreeing with you before you made your comment - just wanted to clear that up.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: chatham, 8/10/2014 1:04:12 PM     (No. 9960506)

If Netanyahu wasn´t as strong as he is, Israel and it´s people would have been annihilated long ago. Just look at the peace loving Christians who have been murdered by Muslims over the last 20 years and are currently being murdered by muslims, right now.
Look up the history of these muslim Savages.

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American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson    Original Article
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What on earth is an ohbee-guynee? Apparently it is a weird Obamaspeak pronunciation of OB/GYN (pronounced oh-bee-gee-why-en). For the president’s benefit, let me specify that means a doctor who delivers babies and takes care of the lady parts. When President Obama announced the departure of Eric Holder from his position as attorney general, he also mentioned his “good friend,” the AG’s wife, Dr. Sharon Malone, and he called her an “ohbee-guynee.” (snip) it almost seems as though someone raised in a fantasized USSR training camp for deep cover agents was inserted into the identity of Barack Obama and loosed upon

Courts Will Decide If Chimps Should
Have Same Rights As Humans

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New York Post, by Lia Eustachewich    Original Article
Posted By: mc squared- 10/4/2014 10:08:43 AM     Post Reply
It’s the “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.” A New York appeals court next week will consider whether chimps should have the same rights as human beings. The extraordinary proceeding is the result of a lengthy battle by animal-rights activists who argue that animals with human qualities — including chimps — are entitled to human protections, including freedom from captivity. Steven Wise, part of the Nonhuman Rights Project, which is leading the effort, will have to convince a panel of Albany appellate judges that a chimp name Tommy is a “legal person” to get him moved from a cage

We’ve made the
Ebola crisis worse

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Telegraph [UK], by Geoffrey Lean    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 10/3/2014 11:45:50 PM     Post Reply
It is the stuff that nightmares are made of, and day by day it is getting worse. The Ebola epidemic, says Dr Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organisation (WHO), is now “the greatest peacetime challenge” since the Second World War. Yet her own organisation’s tardiness, partly caused by cuts, together with reductions in--and misuse of--funds elsewhere, are largely responsible for Ebola spiralling out of control. [Snip] It’s just the beginning. At present the numbers of people infected are thought to be doubling in under 30 days--and the blue-chip US Center for Disease Control and Prevention predicts that, if Ebola

28 words that Democrats
really wish President Obama
didn’t say today

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Washington Post, by Chris Cillizza    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 10/2/2014 10:48:52 PM     Post Reply
President Obama was at Northwestern University on Thursday to deliver an economic speech that, he and his team hoped, would lay out the case for why the public is better off today than they were six years ago -- even if they didn´t feel it in their everday lives. Instead, Obama just gave every Republican ad-maker in the country more fodder for negative ads linking Democratic candidates to him. Here are the four sentences that will draw all of the attention (they come more than two thirds of the way through the speech): "I am not on the ballot this

Ebola is a greater clear and present
threat to America than any terror group -
so why is Obama spending billions bombing
ISIS but only millions blitzing the virus?

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Daily Mail [UK], by Piers Morgan    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 10/4/2014 7:00:30 AM     Post Reply
I’m always sceptical when I hear scare-mongering claims about diseases. From bird flu to SARS, we’re repeatedly told it’s going to be the new Plague that will wipe everyone out and then…it doesn’t. Probably because the scare-mongering itself makes people take it seriously enough to prevent it spreading. But there is something very sinister and frightening about this Ebola outbreak, which has so far infected 7,100 and killed 3,300. [Snip] It’s hard to think of a more cack-handed, dangerously inept response than what transpired in Dallas. Consider what we now know: Thomas Eric Duncan, a 42-year-old Liberian citizen, had been

Michelle Obama: U.S. Has Improved
´By Almost Every Economic Measure´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Warner Todd Huston    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/4/2014 10:36:54 AM     Post Reply
In a speech in Boston, First Lady Michelle Obama left behind talk of exercise and school lunches, exchanging it all for bald politics by claiming that under her husband the US economy is now better off "by almost every economic measure." The First Lady appeared at the Strand Theater Friday to stump for Martha Coakley´s campaign for Governor of Massachusetts. Coakley needs help badly, as even in blue, blue Massachusetts, the race between Democrat Coakley and Republican Charlie Baker is essentially a toss up. In her remarks, Obama pushed the President´s newest campaign line that he has saved the economy based on

United Airlines Flight 998 From Brussels
To Newark Liberty Met By Hazmat CDC
Officials – Liberian Father and Daughter*

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Conservative Treehouse, by Sundance    Original Article
Posted By: galloglass- 10/4/2014 3:00:31 PM     Post Reply
Ladies and Gentlemen: Please secure your trays tables and seats into their upright and locked positions, along with any vomit or other Potentially Infectious Materials for our flight staff to pick up as we prepare for arrival to our final destination”…. “And, as always, the staff of United Flight 998 would like to thank you for remaining calm as we transport the Ebola virus to a destination near you”. NEW YORK - A United Airilines flight from Brussels was met by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials today at Newark Liberty International Airport after a passenger on board believed to be from Liberia exhibited possible signs of

Meghan McCain on Secret
Service: ´I hated all of them´

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 10/3/2014 12:30:44 AM     Post Reply
Meghan McCain joined the dog pile on the Secret Service this week, saying she’s had “nothing but horrible experiences" with the agency and likening the agents to “glorified mall cops.” The 29-year-old author and television personality, who is also the daughter of former GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), opened up on Pivot’s “TakePart Live” about some of her interactions with the Secret Service. "I have nothing but horrible experiences with the Secret Service,” McCain said. “One of my friends called them glorified mall cops and I don´t think that´s terribly far off. I found them cliquey. I hated

Some Blacks See Secret Service
as Flawed Shield for the President

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New York Times, by Peter Baker    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 12:16:43 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland was at the grocery store the other day when he ran into an elderly black woman who expressed growing concern about President Obama’s safety. Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents? The furor that led to this week’s resignation of the director of the Secret Service resonated deeply among blacks, outraged that those supposed to be guarding the first black president were somehow falling down on the job — and suspicious even without evidence that it may be deliberate. “It is something that is widespread in


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