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Libertarian Folly: Why Everybody
is a Social-issues Voter

American Thinker, by Selwyn Duke

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Posted By:tisHimself, 8/7/2014 5:57:27 AM

There is this notion, one we hear more and more, that the Republican Party has to shed the social issues to seize the future. “Social issues are not the business of government!” says thoroughly modern millennial. It’s a seductive cry, one repeated this past Tuesday in an article about how some young libertarians dubbed the “Liberty Kids” are taking over the moribund Los Angeles GOP. Oh, wouldn’t the political landscape be simple if we could just boil things down to fiscal responsibility? But life is seldom simple.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: grace1798, 8/7/2014 6:21:40 AM     (No. 9956379)

These Anti-American DEMONRATS started the social crap in order to gain more votes from the IDIOT Voters in our nation. It all started with control...the need for control on the DEMONCRATIC side. And of course, the idiots who support it are responsible for all this. But yes, I blame the voters. Demonrats always said PEOPLE ARE STUPID and need to be TOLD what to do...well, I agree.......I have seen it in their votes..and support of vile candidates. PPL are STUPID.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tyshab, 8/7/2014 6:31:58 AM     (No. 9956393)

The author has a valid point
FTA: "But this is impossible. For the truth is that every just law is an imposition of morality or a corollary thereof -- every one."

Unfortunately, morality is being redefined by folks on nearly a daily basis, and basing a countries laws on that ever changing foundation wreaks havoc.

As John Adams said,
"“we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.” He goes on to say, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”



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Reply 3 - Posted by: tyshab, 8/7/2014 6:33:14 AM     (No. 9956395)

Above should be country´s.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: kahunavol, 8/7/2014 7:16:23 AM     (No. 9956443)

Moral issues tend to have a fiscal impact. How much do we spend on AIDS research as a country? Why? We make a moral choice to try and cure something that is highly preventable. We not only legalize abortions, Medicaid will pay for them. Birth control is a social issue covered by Obamacare. Colorado is finding that legalization of marijuana has real costs to the state as well as financial benefits. In order to strip these issues from the dialogue you have to defund all spending related to them. Unless you´re willing to do that, you can´t just say we won´t talk about them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bkt23, 8/7/2014 8:06:35 AM     (No. 9956516)

As a Libertarian, I would like government to back away from the nanny-state mentality. As long as individuals do no harm to others (the non-aggression principle), they should be left alone to do it.

The real problem is captured by #2´s Adam´s quote: a small government that does not infringe on individual rights means individuals must be self-governing. It means they must individually choose not to do harm to others.

Sadly, today that´s a very tall order. People have been bred to be narcissists and they don´t really care who they step on to get what they want.

Before we can effectively fix the government, we must fix the people. Teach them once again the ideas of self-reliance and self-sufficiency, hard work, honor, integrity and yes, morality.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: craige, 8/7/2014 10:17:05 AM     (No. 9956668)

Interesting article, but it shows a lack of knowledge of basic libertarian principle.

Marriage is not a state issue. It is religious, or contractual, or both. Requiring state permission is a form of government aggression.

Pedophilia is a form of aggression against minors, by adults. Governments exist to protect citizens against aggression.

Forming an opinion about Nazis´s or KKK´s or anyone or anything else, (judgement) is freedom of thought. Freedom of speech gives one the right to express such opinions.

Bestiality is aggression against animals. The author seems to be unsually interested in sexual perversions.

Key concept: Aggression is a bad thing.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: zoidberg, 8/7/2014 12:11:34 PM     (No. 9956829)

Conservatives have trouble distinguishing a vice from a crime, just as liberals have trouble distinguishing a virtue from a requirement.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jglas, 8/7/2014 1:26:08 PM     (No. 9956921)

Libertarians believe he who governs least governs best but there has to be some government. Very few libertarians want no laws regulating behavior whether it be secular, ethical or religious behavior (that is, not many libertarians are anarchists). The guiding principle is that peoples behavior in whatever area ought not harm others, put others in danger nor infringe the rights of others. If a behavior violates any of those criteria and can´t be handled in another way then it should be the subject of a law or regulation. Otherwise it should be left to the discretion of the smallest social unit in which it occurs, that is the individual (e.g. virtually any behavior so long as it is not harmful to others or is only harmful to oneself) the family (e.g. who spends the money on what, how to raise the kids), the church (e.g. who can be a Deacon, what it takes to get into Heaven), organizations (who to hire and how much to pay them) or the community (e.g. business taxes, zones, blue laws), etc.

One can see that libertarians are going to object most to things like the government mandating how you spend your money (infringing the right to property) or trying to stop you from harmful habits and pleasures that only harm oneself (this is one area where social-issues complaints come in). The US Constitution is a very libertarian friendly document . . . maybe the most libertarian friendly national constitution ever written but we´re moving ever further from those libertarian ideals the more it is violated.

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