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Five myths about impeachment
Washington Post, by Jonathan Turley

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 8/2/2014 9:11:58 AM

1. An impeachable offense is anything Congress says it is. (Snip) But Congress’s exclusive power to impeach does not license it to abuse that power, any more than the Supreme Court’s final say on laws gives it license to deliver arbitrary rulings. The framers carefully defined the grounds for impeachment as “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” — language with British legal precedent. They clearly did not want removal of the president subject to congressional whim. Indeed, they rejected the addition of “maladministration” after James Madison cautioned that “so vague a term will be equivalent to a tenure during pleasure

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Impeachment is not the problem, as much as the separation of powers by our three branches of government. It´s the will of a Senate to practice bipartisanship in removing an errant president who ignores the other two branches after he has been impeached.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/2/2014 9:25:15 AM     (No. 9950488)

An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House has the votes for.

This is as false as the Constitution is what 5 Supreme Court members say.

It is true that there has to be limits, but unfortunately those limits are self imposed.

If members of the House or the Supreme Court abuse their own self control, they are the still the final arbiters of those decisions.

This goes further in the impeachment hearings. Suppose the House so votes and it goes to the Senate for a trial. The same self control issue applies.

The Senate can vote to convict someone who the House falsely or frivolously voted for impeachment. Yet the Seante also can fail to convict someone who the House righteously voted for trial.

Yet all the members of the House, Senate, and the Supreme Court have taken oaths to uphold the fidelity of the Constitution.

Some fail in their obligations.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Tom Paine, 8/2/2014 9:39:26 AM     (No. 9950503)

Impeachment plain and simple is a political act. The house can impeach the President for any reason they desire. Since politicians only care about being reelected, they would vote
without caring if the President is guilty or not.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: krause, 8/2/2014 9:41:47 AM     (No. 9950513)

Why can´t Harry Reid be impeached? He personally decides which bills presented to the Senate from the House get voted on. He refuses to present just about any bill from the republican dominated House. These are the people´s bills, presented by their duly elected representatives.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: planetgeo, 8/2/2014 10:37:11 AM     (No. 9950601)

It´s difficult to imagine a more clear cut case for impeachment than Obama´s. He epitomizes the type of stealth tyrant that the founders feared might arise some day. Arrogation of powers from Congress. Domestic spying. Dismantling of our military. Support for our enemies and estrangement from our allies. Etc., etc.

If he doesn´t warrant impeachment and removal, who would?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: grace1798, 8/2/2014 11:04:17 AM     (No. 9950657)

We all just want that enemy of America GONE! AND NOW.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Gordon Mills, 8/2/2014 11:09:51 AM     (No. 9950673)

I disagree with Turley in that the SCOTUS has been delivering arbitrary, made up rulings.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 8/2/2014 11:50:52 AM     (No. 9950742)

Actions that subvert the U.S. Constitution are grounds for impeachment.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Doctor P, 8/2/2014 3:48:44 PM     (No. 9950965)

To #3

One does not impeach Congressmen or Senators. Those bodies have rules to seat, punish, and/or remove their own members.

I doubt we see enough Democrats who control the Senate to remove Sen Reid or even to remove him from their leadership.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: snakeoil, 8/2/2014 5:44:36 PM     (No. 9951053)

The term "high crimes and misdemeanors" is about as vague as it gets. What is a high crime? Ordering government agencies such as the IRS to harass political opponents? Having an Attorney General who violates the law by committing perjury in testimony to congress? Back when the case was made against Nixon we were told that lying to the American people was an impeachable offense.

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