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It Wasn´t Pretty, But It
Worked: How the Right Won
the Summer Immigration Skirmish

Breitbart Big Government, by Caroline May & Matthew Boyle

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 8/1/2014 11:30:19 PM

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Nobody — even those among their ranks — thought it could happen, but House conservatives cracked GOP leadership to get almost everything they wanted out of a supplemental appropriations immigration bill before the Congress broke officially for recess. Conservatives capitalized on a perfect storm of the new House GOP leadership team´s inability to whip enough votes Thursday and the hardline stance of key conservatives. Their effort was aided by aggressive movement activists, the conservative media, and a national mood against President Barack Obama — which led many Americans to call their representatives demanding they come up with


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bubby, 8/2/2014 7:09:15 AM     (No. 9950341)

Speaker Boner should be removed as Speaker based on the first bill he introduced and tried to get passed. He is all for amnesty and helping his friend and golfing partner obama who he trusts "absolutely"! If obama tries to grant amnesty via executive order any conservative Republican candidate for President should declare obama asked them to come I will tell them to leave and go home. Executive orders can be revoked by another President. My guess is if a moderate GOP establishment like Jeb Bush or Christy wins the nomination obama´s illegals will be more than welcome.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40, 8/2/2014 8:21:40 AM     (No. 9950407)

The fact that this had to be forcibly shoved down the throats of Boehner and the RINOs confirms every fear we have had about them. Needs watchung.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 8/2/2014 8:27:02 AM     (No. 9950413)

I´m so reminded of the marches in DC of 2010 and how they were patently ignored by the (*&*^% sitting in the halls of Congress. It gets even worse by the day. Why does the people have to burn up phone lines to let them know what you think of something. They don´t already know!? They were sent there to represent us but we know they are in the pocket$ of the lobbyist$.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 8/2/2014 8:46:32 AM     (No. 9950439)

Encouraging, the CoC lost this round IMHO because of Breitbart, Drudge, Townhall etc. The internet is changing politics.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: congar, 8/2/2014 9:13:36 AM     (No. 9950470)

The RINOS and their Democrat pals will just wait until some headline gets the world’s attention, and then ram through some disgusting bill no loyal American would approve at 4 in the morning, Friday.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: eoddad, 8/2/2014 9:15:24 AM     (No. 9950475)

"The loudest meanest voices in the Republican Party dictate the policies for the majority. that is what I believe,” Gutierrez

This comment coming from the nastiest loudmouth currently in the Congress is really taking the cake.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 8/2/2014 9:49:38 AM     (No. 9950528)

Boehner could have stonewalled as Harry Reid does, but he did no. ou all got what you want. Thank you, Lord, for this no matter how it was accomplished.


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Reply 8 - Posted by: Tusker, 8/2/2014 9:54:38 AM     (No. 9950533)

Get fluent in Spanish as it terrifies them when responded to in kind as they hide behind your inability to fathom what is , most of the time, no better than eubonics, i.e. Illiteracy in two languages.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: M2, 8/2/2014 10:01:46 AM     (No. 9950546)

Bachmann was similarly pleased with the the GOP’s new unity on the full immigration package. "I was a ´hell no,´ and now I can be for this bill today," Bachmann told reporters. “We completely gutted the bill, we changed the bill....the bill is "far better today than it was yesterday.” She further credited the American people’s willingness to call their representatives for the turnaround.

From a conservative, that is good news. Then there´s the telephone calls Americans made to their reps. Great news.

“A unified bold conservative alternative to the open borders radicals is the biggest threat to the Democrat Party,” conservative activist Daniel Horowitz... told Breitbart News....The message emanating from the entire Democrat Party is that we don’t deserve to have borders or sovereignty.

If the right can keep up the constant drumbeat of the Democrats, not conservatives, as being the extremists, that is going to help immeasurably.

Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) decried the House GOP lawsuit as he addressed “all the white people in here” during the Rules Committee hearing —...

That qualifies as racism. But get this: the article says:

The loudest meanest voices in the Republican Party dictate the policies for the majority. that is what I believe,” Gutierrez he said, when asked how conservatives were able to influence the process.

They are scared to death of conservatives because they alone have the fire to get things done. They call them "meanest", yet not a word about Hastings´ comment about "white people." That´s not mean?

The message is that conservatives can get the job done when they hold firm and have America, which is conservative at heart, behind them. They need our help. They´re outnumbered in our Party. Maybe now, the establishment GOP will listen a little harder to those reps who are really representing us.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: RancherJack, 8/2/2014 10:21:57 AM     (No. 9950568)

Immigration: Knocking on the door and asking May I?

Colonization: Kicking in the door, demanding the homeowner feed you, give you benefits

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative, 8/2/2014 10:25:22 AM     (No. 9950576)

Bachman is a lame duck, not standing for re-election. The Swiss Miss from Minnesota is playing her part as a conduit to "conservatives"...and will vote for a "comprehensive reform" after the elections with a broad smile and a vapid "we did what needed to be done". Has the invasion stopped? Have the invaders been sent home? Has the border been made secure? No, of course not to all of them. This is a different bi-partisanship in action...and the boobs take the bait. The "right" hasn´t won - it hasn´t even achieved stalemate. When the appropriate numbers are reached, the flow will stop, Republicans will crow about restoring the border, Democrats will boast about social justice, and the American public will pay...the perpetrators safely in office for another term.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 8/2/2014 10:32:55 AM     (No. 9950589)

There isn´t a single person - - conservative, RINO, demonrat, commie - - who is willing to address the real issue - - namely, the welfare state.

All this blah-blah-blah about "immigration" completely misses - - indeed willfully ignores - - the biggest issue - - which is the rolling back and repealing of all the failed New Deal, Great Society and other commie-inspired legislation.

None of the "conservatives" - - not a single one - - has the guts to raise this issue and to propose the real solution - - the END of the welfare state.

Until some elected official does - - all of this immigration talk is just a bunch of meaningless posing and nonsense. Don´t waste your time and energy over it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: MEMcL, 8/2/2014 10:49:14 AM     (No. 9950622)

Putting aside the specifics for the moment, just look at the "process." Boehner hires a pro-immigration assistant to draft the legislation. He obviously did not conference with more Conservative members of the party, but said: "Here it is...now, vote for it!"

Kudos to Sessions, Cruz, Blackburn, Gohmert and others who rallied the American people and pressured others to not vote for a very flawed bill!

We have to have more of this. It cannot be "my way or the highway" from RINO´s and Boehner. The American people are behind the Conservatives and have spoken. I´d say that this is a vote of no confidence to Boehner, and he should be forced out.

But, at the very least, this proves that the American people are not hesitant to stand up and fight, if given some leadership.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: nevernaught, 8/2/2014 10:51:19 AM     (No. 9950630)

I think this is some sort of victory, but I haven´t seen the bill, and I don´t trust anyone from Washington DC anymore. That is from either side and those in the middle.

Why, because this whole mass immigration morass was engineered from DC by Obama, the Democrats and there was some culpability by Republicans.

In a brave new world, Democrats would be thrown out of office and Obama, Holder, Reid and the rest would be thrown into jail for being convicted traitors. The only document protecting the little guy is the Constitution, and these petty thugs would shred that safeguard in a second if they could.

The UN has to be kicked out too. A UN chairman (who went to Harvard), said yesterday that the UN Condemns Israel´s Latest War Crime: Not Sharing Iron Dome technical data with Hamas. I bet her records were redacted by Harvard too.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: judy, 8/2/2014 10:52:30 AM     (No. 9950636)

Boehner´s problem is he thinks he can push everyone around. Cantor´s loss encouraged the conservatives more than Obama´s low poll numbers. The bill will never go anywhere, but I do like the part where they gave millions to the national guard. Better than giving millions to lawyers who will rule in favor of the illegals.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Namvet, 8/2/2014 11:20:18 AM     (No. 9950699)

November needs to come swift and hard for those who don´t support this great republic.
We can get this done if we work together.
Boehner needs to go!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bighambone, 8/2/2014 2:16:05 PM     (No. 9950892)

Nobody voted for any illegal alien to be sent home, all they did was vote to provide Obama with a lot of money to take care of the illegal aliens.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: loveUSA, 8/2/2014 2:51:58 PM     (No. 9950922)

Pray for the conservatives in Congress. They are not only fighting the Rinos but the far left media and the commies who call themselves Democrat progressives.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: arkfamily, 8/2/2014 3:23:28 PM     (No. 9950946)

I really can´t believe the comments on this thread. John Boehner is between a rock and a hard place with this whole issue. Obama threatens to go it alone. Applies to most issues. More than likely this bill won´t even get past Harry Reid. The initial bill may not have either. Who knows with these Democrats.

How is it that the Republicans are getting blamed for this? This crisis has been caused by Obama and everyone makes it sound like the Republicans had a part in it. They are being forced to act on something because Obama threatens amnesty.

I get really sick of reading the pet names people have for John Boehner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, or substitute any name you care to. "Treat people the way you want to be treated" is an old saying but applies here. It has to be very difficult dealing with Obama and the Democrats. I don´t envy the Republicans, quite honestly.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 8/2/2014 5:14:11 PM     (No. 9951029)

An overwhelming majority of the people who post on this forum - - have lost all faith and any feeling of empathy for the Pubbie party.

It´s not as if they have left the party - - the party has left them - - sold all of its principles for the siren lure of handing out welfare state goodies.

If Boehner & Friends are called names - - it´s the result of simple disgust with those spineless backstabbers.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: judy, 8/2/2014 5:45:01 PM     (No. 9951054)

I respected Boehner until he removed tea party members from key committees. Somewhere along the line Boehner lost his ability to be inclusive. It´s a big party include everyone. I remember a congressman on TV say he couldn´t say anything because Boehner would remove him from his committee. The tea party is the only reason Boehner is leader, he out grew the little people & catered to the chamber of commerce. The first immigration bill this week was a disaster , the second bill with conservative input was better. The bill included sending the illegals back, $$$ to the national guard & most of all it was millions not the 3 billion the WH requested.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/2/2014 5:53:26 PM     (No. 9951059)

#19, Politicians sometimes earn their nicknames as shown by the Lord with regard to Harod, calling him a "fox".

"The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee. And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected."

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Posted By: JoniTx- 9/27/2014 3:48:05 AM     Post Reply
When the U.S. military strikes, its leaders often choose colorful code names for the operation that sometimes stick in history, like Operation Overlord or Rolling Thunder or Desert Storm. Not this time. The U.S.-led air campaign against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria doesn´t have a name. "I know of no plans at this point to name it," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said Thursday. Since World War II, almost every U.S. military operation, large and small, has had a code name. And that name usually sticks when veterans talk about the conflicts in which they participated, such

By Disrespecting Its Base,
GOP Risks Electoral Flop

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Rick Manning    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 9/27/2014 12:51:21 PM     Post Reply
Political pollsters have a tough job. They have to create formulas to determine if the person they are interviewing is likely to vote, and it is within this calculation that their reputations are made. Typically, those who are likely to vote in an off-year election are pretty set. They are the people who always vote in elections — with some motivated by specific issues. In a wave election, the number of those motivated by specific issues escalates, changing the electoral landscape as the candidates who are beneficiaries of this increased participation sweep to victory. The 2014 election is rapidly looking like something new


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