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Ebola victims heading to Atlanta:
Infected pair controversially airlifted back
to U.S. for treatment as hero doctor
gives up the only dose of experimental
serum for his American colleague

Daily Mail [UK], by Helen Pow, Joshua Gardner

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 8/1/2014 8:01:23 AM

Two Americans in the fight of their lives against incurable Ebola will reportedly soon board a plane out of Liberia. U.S. authorities are saying little about where Dr. Kent Brantly and hygienist Nancy Writebol will be taken once lifted out of disease-ravaged West Africa. However, Atlanta´s Emory University confirmed Thursday plans to house at least one of the victims--both of whom were said to be in ´grave condition´--once they arrive in the U.S. in a specially outfitted Gulfstream jet. Emory in collaboration with the CDC has built a special containment unit to house just such a patient in need of an extremely

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: NYBruin, 8/1/2014 8:38:20 AM     (No. 9949067)

What could possibly go wrong??

/sarc

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 8/1/2014 8:41:36 AM     (No. 9949074)

I do not understand why Franklin Graham can´t provide the same treatment where these two poor souls are instead of importing them to our shores.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: FLCracker, 8/1/2014 8:54:56 AM     (No. 9949098)

I expect one reason they are bringing those people back is the each is an unique experiment in Ebola treatment.

Both victims are life-long beneficiaries of Western health and medical practices.

The woman has received a serum that might be effective against the disease.

The man received a transfusion from another victim that survived the disease.

How effective are either of these treatments in people who have known medical and health histories?

Live or die, I want the best that Western science has observing these two people.

Because, really, what is keeping Ebola from our shores? Or from our Border?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: FLCracker, 8/1/2014 8:55:49 AM     (No. 9949100)

Oh, and the other reason they are bringing them back?

They´re Americans!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: thelmalou, 8/1/2014 9:05:31 AM     (No. 9949126)

They are indeed Americans, and I´m glad they´re bringing them back.

Honestly, I don´t get all this ebola hysteria...I really don´t. It´s ONLY passed by bodily fluids or eating tainted, improperly-cooked meat ovf an infected animal. Given the fact that we do not drink the blood of our dead and don´t eat bat soup, I´m reall not seeing the logic of how this will become an epidemic here.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: geoguy, 8/1/2014 9:13:48 AM     (No. 9949138)

They are taking them to Atlanta in order to begin work to weaponize the Ebola virus. Just a thought.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: arkfamily, 8/1/2014 9:34:46 AM     (No. 9949185)

I´ll be honest - I am nervous about this decision. I am not hysterical but a couple of the people they aren´t sure how they contracted it because they were very careful. When that question can´t be answered, it makes me anxious as to why they are taking this risk.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 8/1/2014 9:47:19 AM     (No. 9949204)

#5, while the disease might have been contracted from eating bush meat, the patient can pass it on, as follows:

The virus then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. ("Mucous membranes"--includes coughing and sneezing?)

From a recent Telegraph article at:

http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=794758

I think the major fear is that if the disease did begin to spread in the US, there would not be enough special isolation units to handle the patients. This is one of those situations where an abundance of caution is a good idea, as in the recent case where the illegal with antibiotic-resistant TB ran away. (He has since been found and returned to medical care.)

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Reply 9 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 8/1/2014 11:30:41 AM     (No. 9949376)

It is a massively stupid thing to move them to the US - hey what else is Guantanamo good for? But maybe it will encourage some progress on treatment. Which should have been done years ago.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: noparallel, 8/1/2014 11:36:24 AM     (No. 9949385)

It is neither heroic or Christian to bring them to a clean continent. Samaritan´s Purse, Franklin Graham, and the family members should be ashamed of their selfish behavior and desires.

Patrick Sawyers´ (who died from ebola on the way home from Liberia) wife said, "His devastated wife, Decontee Sawyer, 34, shudders when she thinks how close Sawyer came to returning home to the States for his daughters´ birthdays carrying the dreaded virus.

´It´s a global problem because Patrick could´ve easily come home with Ebola,´ Decontee said to KSTP. ´Easy. Easy. It´s close, it´s at our front door. It knocked down my front door.´"

and

Decontee Sawyer said the sequence of events shows how close Ebola is.

"I don´t want any other families to go through this," Sawyer said. "Ebola has to stop. This can´t happen anymore."

I´d like to thank the thoughtless, selfish people who insist on bringing a deadly disease to a clean continent. Thank you.

/sarcoff

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dwa, 8/1/2014 11:39:07 AM     (No. 9949394)

With the incompetence we have seen time after time in our supposedly world class labs that have "misplaced" dangerous bacteria etc, what makes anyone think that the ebola virus can be contained here. Yes, they are Americans, Americans who took the risk to go where the ebola outbreak was. They knew the risk and have no right to come back to the US for treatment -- and potentially spread rather than contain the virus where it broke out. Stupid move.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Lalo, 8/1/2014 3:04:10 PM     (No. 9949671)

I imagine that the CDC, which is practically next door to Emory Hospital, will be closely and physically monitoring the situation as well. But in any event I feel it will be safe enough and pray that this move will help save lives in the future.

And I so agree with ##3 & 4 - they should be brought back home if for no other reason than that they are Americans - and we can handle it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: harper, 8/1/2014 4:13:53 PM     (No. 9949741)

Just wondering how many Affirm-As Dems are in the chain of command, security and other important positions at CDC and the university?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Lalo, 8/1/2014 6:43:51 PM     (No. 9949874)

Correcting my post @ #12.. I just checked with my best friend, a senior microbiologist who has worked at or with the CDC for many years. She doesn´t seem worried at all and says that Emory will be handling it - not the CDC at all since it is a clinical situation.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Libertygal, 8/1/2014 7:49:05 PM     (No. 9949941)

When all of you who feel so confident do some research on MRSA, and the spread in our hospitals, which is largely based on healthcare worker to patient spread, get back to me.

Most hospitals record a 78-80% success in handwashing technique. None report a 100% success rate in handwashing, which is all that is necessary to prevent the spread of this disease.

Please consider these two things. Both of these people profess to have been practicing standard contact precautions. If this is the case, then there is a mode of transmission the CDC has NOT identified, OR
both of these people have failed at handwashing.

You are going to have people NOT experienced at handwashing in a teaching facility when you already have a non 100% compliance rate. Doctors are known to be the worst at following handwashing, and doctors´ ties are the most contaminated objects found in hospitals.

Also, let´s not put it past some ego driven jackwagon to have some psychopathic thrill out of starting an epidemic.

The linens, all disposeable goods from these patients, must be incinerated. That means the chain of custody must be followed down through housekeeping, and into the basement, with the janitors. Seriously, do you think ANYONE will follow this, 100% of the time, i24/7, 365? Someone will trust Joe the Janitor, who MAY just grab a soiled towel as a "keepsake".

With Atlanta being the busiest travel hub in the country, I bid you farewell, and good luck. It isn´t just Atlanta, the country, but the entire world they are placing at risk here.

Trust no one, because in this crazy twilight zone we live in right now, it is all totally plausible. Just read the story about the guy putting needles in meat "for the hell of it".


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Coy860, 8/1/2014 8:35:41 PM     (No. 9949987)

I am sure that these 2 infected Americans took every precaution, including highly protective gear while helping their patients, avoided bat soup, etc. and still contracted the disease.
What IF one of the medical people in Atlanta DOES contract ebola? Then what?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Trust No One, 8/1/2014 8:38:22 PM     (No. 9949989)

#15. EVERY good rational post. You are correct that there are many links in the chain and they can be broken very easily.

A million up votes.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: grace1798, 8/2/2014 8:44:05 AM     (No. 9950433)

Send them all to the WHITE HOUSE

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