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Well Being: Melting that
old advice about ice

Philadelphia Inquirer, by Art Carey

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Posted By:Calvinesq, 7/27/2014 4:34:46 PM

For decades, the standard method for treating injuries was RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation. Everyone from Little League coaches to pro sports trainers knows icing is a sure way to reduce swelling, inflammation and pain, and speed healing. That has been the conventional wisdom. Now comes Gary Reinl, with 40 years of experience in sports, fitness, and rehab, with an iconoclastic message. In his self-published book ICED!, Reinl argues that icing is not only wrong - "an illusionary treatment" - but also counterproductive and harmful. "There´s not a shred of evidence that icing is helpful," Reinl said.

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Here I thought the science was settled. This new approach makes sense. Stop icing those injuries.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 7/27/2014 4:47:20 PM     (No. 9942299)

My high school football coach knew all about this (class of ´63). He would tell us ice packers, "Okay, go ahead- put ice on it. You might look pretty quicker, but you are gonna still hurt at practice tomorrow."

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Reply 2 - Posted by: thelmalou, 7/27/2014 5:08:47 PM     (No. 9942328)

And it´s dang cold, too. I´ve never liked using it; a hot towel does much better for me.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: farmwife, 7/27/2014 5:12:53 PM     (No. 9942333)

Just goes to show science has a way of becoming ´unsettled´ no matter how much the know-it-alls resist it.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/27/2014 5:31:49 PM     (No. 9942349)

On two different type injuries - 10 years apart (2003 and 2013) - therapists applied wet hot packs to injured area after therapy sessions, with instructions to soak area in hot water at home.

No one ever said to ice anything.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 7/27/2014 5:32:40 PM     (No. 9942350)

There is one helpful beneift not mentioned. Ice is a great anaglesic. It works very fast to reduce pain and often is a more potent pain reliever than other medicinces taken by mouth. That certainly doesn´t dispute the claim that no ice is overall helpful, but not hurting has its benefits.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jir, 7/27/2014 6:01:33 PM     (No. 9942365)

Pain is a signal to rest the area - not use it. This makes complete sense to me. Thank you for posting.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Scribelus, 7/27/2014 6:13:17 PM     (No. 9942370)

Didn´t William Jefferson Clinton (impeached, 1998) advise one of his rape victims to "...put some ice on that"? So it is a politically correct remedy, although temporary.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: EQKimball, 7/27/2014 7:19:03 PM     (No. 9942420)

Nothing helps a severe backache like ice. Remember the pictures of Larry Bird lying on the sideline with ice on his back? I´ve tried ice and hot packs. From my experience, ice is a miracle remedy for both pain and swelling.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: coyote, 7/27/2014 8:20:48 PM     (No. 9942453)

I´ve had hockey injuries that were treated with ice and those that were not so treated. Ice the first day, then heat and a slow increase in exercising the injured area worked best.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 7/27/2014 9:10:50 PM     (No. 9942485)

There´s a reason why therapy pools are heated to around 92 degrees or so. My pool has shut down and I´m definitely feeling the loss of its highly beneficial effects, half-crippled again. Soaking in the tub just doesn´t do it, must have the exercise. Am working on a solution, no worries.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Calico Al, 7/27/2014 9:38:33 PM     (No. 9942495)

It sure helps the bone spur swelling in my heel.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: 4justice, 7/27/2014 9:44:53 PM     (No. 9942499)

No revelation here. I knew this ages ago.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: loveUSA, 7/27/2014 10:44:57 PM     (No. 9942527)

Sorry, but ice helps my bad back and sciatic nerve pain.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: smcchk, 7/27/2014 11:20:26 PM     (No. 9942548)

Advil and keep moving works for me. But everyone´s pain and relief are their own.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: enuf8, 7/28/2014 1:35:09 AM     (No. 9942602)

Lavender and Peppermint Oils worked wonders for me from an injury. Like my recent knee cap injury, additional oils of Birch and Wintergreen were used. No Ice used but leg elevated and a knee brace made mobility a possibility in short order.

It´s the pits to kiss the cement driveway when being tripped, especially being 3 quarters of a century in age.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LoneVoice, 7/28/2014 1:43:25 AM     (No. 9942610)

Ice works for acute injuries and inflammation, but what do I know? I only have 21 years of experience working in physical therapy.

Ice doesn´t cure everything, but it does help reduce inflammation and pain in most people. This guy is just BSing you to sell a book.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/28/2014 2:58:52 AM     (No. 9942646)

My orthopedic doctor said that you should never use warm packs unless told by a doctor after diagnosis; if you´re self-treating a strain or bump, ice will relieve the pain and can´t do damage, but heat can.

I think I´ll follow his advice instead of this guy´s.

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For decades, the standard method for treating injuries was RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation. Everyone from Little League coaches to pro sports trainers knows icing is a sure way to reduce swelling, inflammation and pain, and speed healing. That has been the conventional wisdom. Now comes Gary Reinl, with 40 years of experience in sports, fitness, and rehab, with an iconoclastic message. In his self-published book ICED!, Reinl argues that icing is not only wrong - "an illusionary treatment" - but also counterproductive and harmful. "There´s not a shred of evidence that icing is helpful," Reinl said.



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