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What Hamas Planned To
Do With The Terror Tunnels

Baltimore Jewish Life, by Jonathan Dahoah HeLevi

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Posted By:Judy W., 7/26/2014 7:46:59 AM

The IDF has not yet located and destroyed all of Hamas´ terror tunnels, but the consensus about the intent behind them is quite clear. This is Jonathan Dahoah HeLevi of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas prime minister, delivered a revealing speech on March 23, 2014, in which he stressed the strategic importance of the Hamas attack tunnels, which, he argued, have changed the balance of power with Israel, when taken together with his organization’s military build-up. In the meantime, the IDF’s war against the tunnels continues. On Monday IDF forces thwarted another terror attack after two groups of Hamas

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All that "humanitarian" aid for the Palestinians went for war. Untold quantities of concrete were supplied, supposedly for homes and schools. It all went to build the tunnels (and enable the leaders to live in luxury) while the people live in squalor.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2, 7/26/2014 7:57:24 AM     (No. 9940719)

...sending hundreds of terrorists swarming through those tunnels to massacre Israelis in the Gaza-envelope kibbutzim and moshavim. Netanyahu said Sunday that the intended Hamas attacks on kibbutz kindergartens, homes and dining halls would have been “catastrophic.”

How do you make peace with an ideology which has as its core the destruction of children and innocent civilians? We´re not even talking about collateral damage - Hamas makes kids and civilians their primary targets, the people who can reproduce more Jews, which Hamas finds a horrifying prospect.

Israel is right to go in there and destroy Hamas and their tunnels and their missiles, no matter where they are stashed. At least Israel gave Hamas warning they were going to attach, giving Hamas the chance to get innocents out of the target areas. Yes, Israel knew there would be collateral damage. This is war, it´s unavoidable. But at least they are being civilized, acting like human beings. For Israel, their defense is existential. For Hamas, their aggression is born of hate.

What does Hamas do? They blow up their own Mosques and madrassas, take photos of dead children and women, and blame it on Israel.

How do you reason with that?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: iamshazzam, 7/26/2014 8:29:07 AM     (No. 9940745)

This nation MUST stand behind Israel 100%. FURTHERMORE, we should use the IDF tactics to secure our own borders!!!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Gorzabozo, 7/26/2014 9:07:40 AM     (No. 9940794)

Note to Israel: Find a way to use these tunnels against the enemy. Yes, that would be difficult but at least give the appearance of using these tunnels to your benefit. If the enemy believes their tunnels aided in your attacks against them they will cease building tunnels for a long time.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: sadc, 7/26/2014 9:12:01 AM     (No. 9940803)

No need for tunnels on our border, #2, we have the Coyote in Chief sending a plane to pick them up in Honduras so they won´t have the long, journey to endure. How on earth do you deal with that?? We have a lawless leader, a borderless country and a Sec. of State trying to help Israel´s enemy. And, do we think if the Islamic terrorists succeed in wiping out the "little Satan" as they call Israel, that they will not come for the U.S. again, which is called the "Big Satan"?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: geoguy, 7/26/2014 9:12:45 AM     (No. 9940806)

I would suggest using flyover ground penetrating radar to find and map the tunnels. It works particularly well in arid regions. It´s done in geology to find buried river channels, it should work to find tunnels.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: horacer, 7/26/2014 9:22:31 AM     (No. 9940825)

The information they´re receiving from interrogations is appalling. Hamas was planning mass terror attacks on civilians using the tunnels. They would have come in force and murdered as many women and children as possible. Every tunnel has to be destroyed. Gaza has to be demilitarized. As long as Israel has Egypt and Saudi Arabia on their side they have to continue fighting.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: velox, 7/26/2014 9:50:07 AM     (No. 9940886)

They should have discovered them and left them alone. They could have put explosives in them and set them off during an invasion.
That would have killed plenty of terrorist without a single civilian getting harmed.
My dad used to leave a back screen door unlocked. it was alarmed. Once in the screen door a thief still had to get into the house through a locked solid door. The Jews could have done the same.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 7/26/2014 9:52:03 AM     (No. 9940891)

I like the way you think, #5.

For the life of me I will never understand the barbarians in the Middle East who are so opposed to Israel. If the barbarians were truly interested in making the region prosper, they would work with the Israelis to find agricultural solutions for turning useless arid acres into green productive land, or for those areas along the coast productive fishing zones. But, of course, they aren´t interested in anything "flowering" but hate. How sad - do they ever laugh?

Also, for the life of me, I will never understand why Israel is thought to be "the promised land" of the Bible. All that seems to have been promised is hateful, jealous enemies of the Jewish people. My question is: weren´t the 6 million dead Jews of WWII enough?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Avogadra, 7/26/2014 10:26:33 AM     (No. 9940943)

Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah, and Al-Qaeda want to steal and kill and destroy. Period. They are liars. They are haters. Those who know the Bible understand where this behavior originates. No amount of careful negotiation will succeed in changing their motivations.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: No Representation in CA, 7/26/2014 11:00:17 AM     (No. 9940999)

Evil! Every last one of them needs to be Wiped Out. Only then will you have peace with Hamas.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: iamshazzam, 7/26/2014 11:13:33 AM     (No. 9941012)

But they already have tunnels #4 - why can´t the airports REFUSE landing permits for any planes coming in unless they have a FULL MANIFEST? I was only saying that if we acted more like the IDF, we´d be at the border stopping all this crap. Don´t forget, we have full air defense compliments at For Bliss and could use it to stop any plane that refused to obey the landing blockade.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba, 7/26/2014 11:14:31 AM     (No. 9941015)

Hamas needs elimination.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Silly Old Me, 7/26/2014 11:23:46 AM     (No. 9941028)

Curtis Lemay, the youngest Air Force general in WWII, and later commander of Strategic Air Command is reputed to have said concerning the bombing of Japan, "If you kill enough of them, they will quit fighting". That will work just as well on Hamas.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Woodabela, 7/26/2014 11:23:58 AM     (No. 9941029)

#2: Numerous drug distribution tunnels have been discovered along the southern U.S. border, many of them marvels of engineering with reinforced concrete construction, light rail systems, electricity and air conditioning. How long before cartels and terrorists use the tunnels as a means to commit not only terrorist acts, but snatch U.S. citizens? After the prisoner swaps that result, Barry will have Gitmo cleared out in no time. Speaking of prisoner swaps, what´s the latest on national treasure Pvt./Sgt. Bergdahl? The guy has disappeared from the news cycle. No doubt Holder is doing one of his patented "investigations" which, as we have learned recently, are endless in scope.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 7/26/2014 11:39:50 AM     (No. 9941045)

There are acoustic detection methods, active and passive, that I´m surprised are not being used to locate tunneling activities.

Additionally, there are some ´big data´ solutions to narrow the areas most likely to contain one or more tunnels.

Maybe these methods are being used, but I tend to doubt it. Too many tunnels have been recently detected, and I think the Israelis have been lucky so far with the captures and kills they´ve made.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/26/2014 11:48:44 AM     (No. 9941055)

The article talks about how dangerous the "tunnels" are but it´s the people that use them that are the danger. These people are vicious animals.

Consider the difference between people who use civilian populations to shield their military actions and plan to sneak across a border and kill all the civilians they can VS people (Israelis) that try their best not to kill civilians and even give warnings before they bomb buildings to allow the people to get out.

A bunch of vicious animals VS. a noble people fighting for survival.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: moviegoer, 7/26/2014 11:54:49 AM     (No. 9941059)

Be aware that the southern border of the US also is riddled with tunnels and begin to imagine how they can be used and by whom.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 7/26/2014 11:56:06 AM     (No. 9941061)

Islamic terrorists believe their god has told them its OK to rob, enslave, and murder anyone around them that is different from them. Basically they are at war with the world.

Every non-Muslim needs to come to terms that Islamic terrorists cannot be negotiated with, and the problem cannot be ignored. It will not go away. Eventually the situation will deteriorate, and the people being attacked have to go to war as a matter of self-defense.

Right now our government is completely on the wrong page, and siding with terrorists. The problem is bad enough that our leadership must be changed.

Every Muslim needs to come to terms that their religion has been corrupted. Who calls on a person to murder their neighbor? God or the devil? Just who is Islam listening to? They need to reform or Islam will die as people flee the reality of Islam in horror.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: HorizonScanner, 7/26/2014 12:08:22 PM     (No. 9941067)

IDF would do well to seize the attack tunnels and reverse their purposes. Ironically, Hamas has provided a boon to the IDF. Now, the IDF can guard Gaza underneath it permanently! On the way to owning the tunnels the IDF should use them as weapons. Drone torpedoes could be launched to mole through the system eliminating those who resist. Once the system is mapped and seized then ironically Hamas has handed victory to their would-be victims.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: uno, 7/26/2014 12:13:18 PM     (No. 9941076)

#9 - After 1400 years of pure islamic hatred for the Jews (and other cultures) there is probably a genetic component to it. What amazes me is that they have to mollycoddle these barbarian neanderthals who can´t even grasp the concept of underwear!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/stink-bomb-underwear-bomber-wore-explosive-undies-for-weeks-fbi-says/

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone, 7/26/2014 12:13:45 PM     (No. 9941077)

You can bet your boots that a lot of American taxpayer´s money found its way into Gaza and was used to purchase the concrete and other building materials that Hamas used to build their bunkers and tunnels.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Freeloader, 7/26/2014 12:18:20 PM     (No. 9941084)

Hamas was founded by Palestinian members of The Muslim Brotherhood in 1987...Guess who currently has six card-carrying members of The Muslim Brotherhood "serving" on his White House Staff and in high administration positions?

Have a nice day.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: busterman, 7/26/2014 12:53:29 PM     (No. 9941127)

#9: I´ll break it down for you.

Hamas worships Allah, a false god, and the teachings of Islam, which call for world peace.

In their context (this is important to understand)...in THEIR context, world peace means that Islam is the only religion. The only people left in the world are those who worship Allah and those who are enslaved by Muslims for not worshiping Allah.

This alone should help everyone understand that Allah and the Christian God are NOT the same.

Islam preaches death, destruction, slavery, rape and lying as useful to the cause.

Christianity, despite the vile actions of some in the past and present, teaches the exact opposite.

God, the Christian God, does not contradict Himself. Therefore, Allah and God are NOT the same.

Islam is a satanic religion bent on world domination to help the Devil take as many as he can with him into the lake of fire.

That´s a simple characterization of the enemy. It´s much more complex, of course, but in a nutshell, that´s what all of this is about.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/26/2014 1:18:44 PM     (No. 9941157)

Anyone who believes that Hamas or any muslim organization in today´s world is going to "negotiate" with the Israelites is just plumb stupid. And they don´t have a clue of the history of the muslims. These people have been taught every since the days of Mohammad that they must kill everyone who doesn´t convert to Islam. And the hatred of the Jewish people goes back even farther, to the days of Abraham and the argument is the chosen "first born" of Abraham. Every Christian knows this story so no need to go into it now. But because of that, the muslims will NEVER give up their attempts to rid the world of every Jew. The best thing that Israel can do now is to re-take Gaza and put it back under Israeli control. At least the women and children will have a better life.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/26/2014 1:35:56 PM     (No. 9941172)

"who is the chosen" . Sorry

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Reply 26 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 7/26/2014 2:20:11 PM     (No. 9941223)

Well done, #s 24 and 25, goes back to Ishmael in Scripture.

That´s a v simple reason why we as Americans must "Stand with Israel" because God does... It´s called the Abrahamic Covenant, God´s redemptive promise of grace.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: billa, 7/26/2014 3:21:44 PM     (No. 9941288)

Times are really tough and we need to make some difficult decsions globally that are necessary and will not find our left-wing, socialist and communist peoples´ approval.

The US needs to demand that Europe, Asia and Latin America stand up against Hamas and Palestinians. If it is not met sanctions and embargos should be put in place to cripple economies globally.

With respect to Russia & Putin... it is a hard call because BO is soooooo weak.

Easy call is to buy him off, but with his recent oil adventures, the US may not have enough money to do that.

Finally with our totally wide open border in the southwest, terrorists and illegal aliens from all over the world will be invading the US.

The only true solution is live in gated-communities with all the necessities of live enclosed.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: leonardo, 7/26/2014 5:39:59 PM     (No. 9941397)

The "Palestinian" people in the UNoccupied strips near Israel, THEMSELVES VOTED IN Hamas KILLERS as soulless as the ISIL murdering fanatics executing the "infidels" in Iraq. That the stupefied world cannot see a difference between the Hamas murderers and Israel speaks volumes. There is only 1 way that an intractable enemy sworn to annihilate you can be dealt with: UTTERLY destroy them once and for all and do it in such a way that other enemies watching for the murderers´ success will think twice before messing with Israel.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: F16 guy, 7/26/2014 6:25:34 PM     (No. 9941439)

Lots of notice from Israel, then the use of a small tactical nuclear weapon.

I see no other option to end the violence, and anything else is futile.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 7/26/2014 8:15:46 PM     (No. 9941533)

@#25_26: Rif the world of "every Jew"...? In Islam, they do not make reference to just Jewish people. They only call for the murder of every non-Islamic person...all infidels on the face of the earth. of course, the Islamist apologists, even in our midsts deny this vehemently. But, it is very true. They will never stop this murder rampage...and even if they succeed (which they may), they will still continue to murder each other. I have to wonder if it is God´s plan to control the population of people on the face of this small planet. We have no natural predators except ourselves.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: JediJerry, 7/26/2014 10:53:50 PM     (No. 9941615)

Excavating tunnels involves moving a tremendous amount of dirt and rocks as well as heavy equipment to get the work done. Did they dig these things by hand with shovels and wheelbarrows and scatter the dirt around with their feet at night with no one even noticing it at all? The fact that they did so much of it undetected is remarkable in and of itself and a smack in the face of Israeli intelligence. Ridiculousness.

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Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 9/13/2014 7:52:33 PM     Post Reply
Voter turnout during last month´s primary races was a little too good in some counties, Arizona elections officials said Friday. Some precincts in northern Arizona tallied more ballots cast than there are registered voters, the Arizona Capitol Times reported. According to officials, errors made by poll workers and elections officials in Apache and Navajo counties led to the miscalculations. Initial reports from some precincts showed a turnout of anywhere from 200 to 400 percent. In Apache County, the Puerco West precinct reportedly had 100 votes cast, but only 23 voters are registered there. The voter turnout added up to 434

Bombshell Emails: White House Coordinated
With Department of Labor To Hide Illegal
Obama Fundraiser Hilda Solis’ Schedule

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/15/2014 5:24:06 AM     Post Reply
The Department of Labor coordinated with the White House on whether or not to release hidden portions of former Labor Secretary Hilda Solis’ schedule as Solis battled an FBI investigation into her illegal fundraising for President Obama. New emails provided to The Daily Caller from the nonprofit legal research firm Cause of Action show the White House thanking the Department of Labor for “flagging” a public information request for “withheld” portions of Solis’ schedule. The White House then asked for the name of the conservative group making the request — information that Labor officials were eager to give up. As TheDC previously

Is there a mutiny brewing around Obama?
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Washington Post, by Ed Rogers    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/15/2014 4:55:56 AM     Post Reply
Is a mutiny happening around President Obama? It appears possible that the president may not have made two of his most recent decisions with complete free will. The announcement that he would delay his immigration initiative until after the election and his formal announcement that the United States would take military action against the Islamic State could have been coerced. Maybe Democratic leaders in Congress and a few members of the Obama team have had it. Could it be that, after President Obama briefed Democrats in Congress on the immigration plan, they balked? Maybe the president was told that, if he

Pelosi’s panic fire: GOP Senate
would end ‘civilization as we know it’

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Washington Times, by Kellan Howell    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 9/13/2014 10:26:16 PM     Post Reply
House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi told “Real Time” host Bill Maher that Democrats are not “fear-mongers” but in the same breath said civilization is doomed if Republicans manage to take control of the Senate in November. “It would be very important for the Democrats to retain control of the Senate,” the California Democrat told Mr. Maher on his show Friday night, which aired live from Washington. “Civilization as we know it today would be in jeopardy if Republicans win the Senate.” Mr. Maher pointed out that voter turnout will most likely lean to the right saying, “Nobody comes out

Black Panthers Threaten to Lynch Black
Conservative for Supporting Officer Darren Wilson

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Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 9/14/2014 9:24:32 PM     Post Reply
Conservative Martin Baker attended a rally in support Officer Darren Wilson in St. Louis. As news of this rally in support of Wilson spread across social media it wasn’t long before Baker’s attendance was noticed by those super tolerant liberals. Now a local New Black Panther adviser is threatening violence against Martin Baker. The Bell News reported: Mauricelm-Lei Millere is a Black Panther and New Black Panther Adviser who is assisting to organize the protests in Ferguson, Missouri. He has also recently encouraged people to commit violence on Martin Baker in a recent Facebook posting.

Barack Obama’s Biggest Lie
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PJ Media, by Roger L. Simon    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/15/2014 4:41:47 AM     Post Reply
There’s a lot of competition for Barack Obama’s biggest lie. The man who could assure the American public with a straight face over thirty times that they could keep their doctor under his health plan, when he knew that to be completely false, is one hellluva fibber. But execrable as that serial prevarication may have been, it doesn’t hold a proverbial candle to his most recent whopper — that the Islamic State is not Islamic — not to mention its corollary, or perhaps subsidiary lie, that real religions do not indulge in murder. Islam has been doing that pretty much straight

Retired General John Allen Selected
for ISIS Campaign – And New Levels
of Dot Connections Follow…..

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Conservative Treehouse, by sundance    Original Article
Posted By: ROLANDDD- 9/13/2014 4:57:24 PM     Post Reply
The question posed to the Tree House was: Why are they selecting a retired General John Allen, instead of a current officer? Deep breath: This White House uses personal leverage to their advantage like no other before it. Example #1: Where’s Bowe Bergdahl? Example #2: What ever happened to Ahmed Abu Khattala the ‘recently’ captured head of the Benghazi attack ? See… you had to think about it. This White House swamps us so much we forget to follow-up….. There is a risk to the political optics of fighting ISIS. Consequently, this administration needs a competent general Denis McDonough can control, rely on,

White House Reacts to Death of
British Journalist David Haines

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Breitbart News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/13/2014 9:47:03 PM     Post Reply
The White House published a statement reacting to the decapitation of British Journalist David Haines at the hands of ISIS Saturday night: "The United States strongly condemns the barbaric murder of UK citizen David Haines by the terrorist group ISIL. Our hearts go out to the family of Mr. Haines and to the people of the United Kingdom. The United States stands shoulder to shoulder tonight with our close friend and ally in grief and resolve. We will work with the United Kingdom and a broad coalition of nations from the region and around the world to bring the perpetrators


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