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What Hamas Planned To
Do With The Terror Tunnels

Baltimore Jewish Life, by Jonathan Dahoah HeLevi

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Posted By:Judy W., 7/26/2014 7:46:59 AM

The IDF has not yet located and destroyed all of Hamas´ terror tunnels, but the consensus about the intent behind them is quite clear. This is Jonathan Dahoah HeLevi of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas prime minister, delivered a revealing speech on March 23, 2014, in which he stressed the strategic importance of the Hamas attack tunnels, which, he argued, have changed the balance of power with Israel, when taken together with his organization’s military build-up. In the meantime, the IDF’s war against the tunnels continues. On Monday IDF forces thwarted another terror attack after two groups of Hamas

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All that "humanitarian" aid for the Palestinians went for war. Untold quantities of concrete were supplied, supposedly for homes and schools. It all went to build the tunnels (and enable the leaders to live in luxury) while the people live in squalor.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2, 7/26/2014 7:57:24 AM     (No. 9940719)

...sending hundreds of terrorists swarming through those tunnels to massacre Israelis in the Gaza-envelope kibbutzim and moshavim. Netanyahu said Sunday that the intended Hamas attacks on kibbutz kindergartens, homes and dining halls would have been “catastrophic.”

How do you make peace with an ideology which has as its core the destruction of children and innocent civilians? We´re not even talking about collateral damage - Hamas makes kids and civilians their primary targets, the people who can reproduce more Jews, which Hamas finds a horrifying prospect.

Israel is right to go in there and destroy Hamas and their tunnels and their missiles, no matter where they are stashed. At least Israel gave Hamas warning they were going to attach, giving Hamas the chance to get innocents out of the target areas. Yes, Israel knew there would be collateral damage. This is war, it´s unavoidable. But at least they are being civilized, acting like human beings. For Israel, their defense is existential. For Hamas, their aggression is born of hate.

What does Hamas do? They blow up their own Mosques and madrassas, take photos of dead children and women, and blame it on Israel.

How do you reason with that?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: iamshazzam, 7/26/2014 8:29:07 AM     (No. 9940745)

This nation MUST stand behind Israel 100%. FURTHERMORE, we should use the IDF tactics to secure our own borders!!!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Gorzabozo, 7/26/2014 9:07:40 AM     (No. 9940794)

Note to Israel: Find a way to use these tunnels against the enemy. Yes, that would be difficult but at least give the appearance of using these tunnels to your benefit. If the enemy believes their tunnels aided in your attacks against them they will cease building tunnels for a long time.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: sadc, 7/26/2014 9:12:01 AM     (No. 9940803)

No need for tunnels on our border, #2, we have the Coyote in Chief sending a plane to pick them up in Honduras so they won´t have the long, journey to endure. How on earth do you deal with that?? We have a lawless leader, a borderless country and a Sec. of State trying to help Israel´s enemy. And, do we think if the Islamic terrorists succeed in wiping out the "little Satan" as they call Israel, that they will not come for the U.S. again, which is called the "Big Satan"?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: geoguy, 7/26/2014 9:12:45 AM     (No. 9940806)

I would suggest using flyover ground penetrating radar to find and map the tunnels. It works particularly well in arid regions. It´s done in geology to find buried river channels, it should work to find tunnels.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: horacer, 7/26/2014 9:22:31 AM     (No. 9940825)

The information they´re receiving from interrogations is appalling. Hamas was planning mass terror attacks on civilians using the tunnels. They would have come in force and murdered as many women and children as possible. Every tunnel has to be destroyed. Gaza has to be demilitarized. As long as Israel has Egypt and Saudi Arabia on their side they have to continue fighting.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: velox, 7/26/2014 9:50:07 AM     (No. 9940886)

They should have discovered them and left them alone. They could have put explosives in them and set them off during an invasion.
That would have killed plenty of terrorist without a single civilian getting harmed.
My dad used to leave a back screen door unlocked. it was alarmed. Once in the screen door a thief still had to get into the house through a locked solid door. The Jews could have done the same.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 7/26/2014 9:52:03 AM     (No. 9940891)

I like the way you think, #5.

For the life of me I will never understand the barbarians in the Middle East who are so opposed to Israel. If the barbarians were truly interested in making the region prosper, they would work with the Israelis to find agricultural solutions for turning useless arid acres into green productive land, or for those areas along the coast productive fishing zones. But, of course, they aren´t interested in anything "flowering" but hate. How sad - do they ever laugh?

Also, for the life of me, I will never understand why Israel is thought to be "the promised land" of the Bible. All that seems to have been promised is hateful, jealous enemies of the Jewish people. My question is: weren´t the 6 million dead Jews of WWII enough?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Avogadra, 7/26/2014 10:26:33 AM     (No. 9940943)

Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah, and Al-Qaeda want to steal and kill and destroy. Period. They are liars. They are haters. Those who know the Bible understand where this behavior originates. No amount of careful negotiation will succeed in changing their motivations.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: No Representation in CA, 7/26/2014 11:00:17 AM     (No. 9940999)

Evil! Every last one of them needs to be Wiped Out. Only then will you have peace with Hamas.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: iamshazzam, 7/26/2014 11:13:33 AM     (No. 9941012)

But they already have tunnels #4 - why can´t the airports REFUSE landing permits for any planes coming in unless they have a FULL MANIFEST? I was only saying that if we acted more like the IDF, we´d be at the border stopping all this crap. Don´t forget, we have full air defense compliments at For Bliss and could use it to stop any plane that refused to obey the landing blockade.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba, 7/26/2014 11:14:31 AM     (No. 9941015)

Hamas needs elimination.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Silly Old Me, 7/26/2014 11:23:46 AM     (No. 9941028)

Curtis Lemay, the youngest Air Force general in WWII, and later commander of Strategic Air Command is reputed to have said concerning the bombing of Japan, "If you kill enough of them, they will quit fighting". That will work just as well on Hamas.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Woodabela, 7/26/2014 11:23:58 AM     (No. 9941029)

#2: Numerous drug distribution tunnels have been discovered along the southern U.S. border, many of them marvels of engineering with reinforced concrete construction, light rail systems, electricity and air conditioning. How long before cartels and terrorists use the tunnels as a means to commit not only terrorist acts, but snatch U.S. citizens? After the prisoner swaps that result, Barry will have Gitmo cleared out in no time. Speaking of prisoner swaps, what´s the latest on national treasure Pvt./Sgt. Bergdahl? The guy has disappeared from the news cycle. No doubt Holder is doing one of his patented "investigations" which, as we have learned recently, are endless in scope.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 7/26/2014 11:39:50 AM     (No. 9941045)

There are acoustic detection methods, active and passive, that I´m surprised are not being used to locate tunneling activities.

Additionally, there are some ´big data´ solutions to narrow the areas most likely to contain one or more tunnels.

Maybe these methods are being used, but I tend to doubt it. Too many tunnels have been recently detected, and I think the Israelis have been lucky so far with the captures and kills they´ve made.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/26/2014 11:48:44 AM     (No. 9941055)

The article talks about how dangerous the "tunnels" are but it´s the people that use them that are the danger. These people are vicious animals.

Consider the difference between people who use civilian populations to shield their military actions and plan to sneak across a border and kill all the civilians they can VS people (Israelis) that try their best not to kill civilians and even give warnings before they bomb buildings to allow the people to get out.

A bunch of vicious animals VS. a noble people fighting for survival.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: moviegoer, 7/26/2014 11:54:49 AM     (No. 9941059)

Be aware that the southern border of the US also is riddled with tunnels and begin to imagine how they can be used and by whom.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 7/26/2014 11:56:06 AM     (No. 9941061)

Islamic terrorists believe their god has told them its OK to rob, enslave, and murder anyone around them that is different from them. Basically they are at war with the world.

Every non-Muslim needs to come to terms that Islamic terrorists cannot be negotiated with, and the problem cannot be ignored. It will not go away. Eventually the situation will deteriorate, and the people being attacked have to go to war as a matter of self-defense.

Right now our government is completely on the wrong page, and siding with terrorists. The problem is bad enough that our leadership must be changed.

Every Muslim needs to come to terms that their religion has been corrupted. Who calls on a person to murder their neighbor? God or the devil? Just who is Islam listening to? They need to reform or Islam will die as people flee the reality of Islam in horror.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: HorizonScanner, 7/26/2014 12:08:22 PM     (No. 9941067)

IDF would do well to seize the attack tunnels and reverse their purposes. Ironically, Hamas has provided a boon to the IDF. Now, the IDF can guard Gaza underneath it permanently! On the way to owning the tunnels the IDF should use them as weapons. Drone torpedoes could be launched to mole through the system eliminating those who resist. Once the system is mapped and seized then ironically Hamas has handed victory to their would-be victims.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: uno, 7/26/2014 12:13:18 PM     (No. 9941076)

#9 - After 1400 years of pure islamic hatred for the Jews (and other cultures) there is probably a genetic component to it. What amazes me is that they have to mollycoddle these barbarian neanderthals who can´t even grasp the concept of underwear!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/stink-bomb-underwear-bomber-wore-explosive-undies-for-weeks-fbi-says/

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone, 7/26/2014 12:13:45 PM     (No. 9941077)

You can bet your boots that a lot of American taxpayer´s money found its way into Gaza and was used to purchase the concrete and other building materials that Hamas used to build their bunkers and tunnels.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Freeloader, 7/26/2014 12:18:20 PM     (No. 9941084)

Hamas was founded by Palestinian members of The Muslim Brotherhood in 1987...Guess who currently has six card-carrying members of The Muslim Brotherhood "serving" on his White House Staff and in high administration positions?

Have a nice day.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: busterman, 7/26/2014 12:53:29 PM     (No. 9941127)

#9: I´ll break it down for you.

Hamas worships Allah, a false god, and the teachings of Islam, which call for world peace.

In their context (this is important to understand)...in THEIR context, world peace means that Islam is the only religion. The only people left in the world are those who worship Allah and those who are enslaved by Muslims for not worshiping Allah.

This alone should help everyone understand that Allah and the Christian God are NOT the same.

Islam preaches death, destruction, slavery, rape and lying as useful to the cause.

Christianity, despite the vile actions of some in the past and present, teaches the exact opposite.

God, the Christian God, does not contradict Himself. Therefore, Allah and God are NOT the same.

Islam is a satanic religion bent on world domination to help the Devil take as many as he can with him into the lake of fire.

That´s a simple characterization of the enemy. It´s much more complex, of course, but in a nutshell, that´s what all of this is about.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/26/2014 1:18:44 PM     (No. 9941157)

Anyone who believes that Hamas or any muslim organization in today´s world is going to "negotiate" with the Israelites is just plumb stupid. And they don´t have a clue of the history of the muslims. These people have been taught every since the days of Mohammad that they must kill everyone who doesn´t convert to Islam. And the hatred of the Jewish people goes back even farther, to the days of Abraham and the argument is the chosen "first born" of Abraham. Every Christian knows this story so no need to go into it now. But because of that, the muslims will NEVER give up their attempts to rid the world of every Jew. The best thing that Israel can do now is to re-take Gaza and put it back under Israeli control. At least the women and children will have a better life.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/26/2014 1:35:56 PM     (No. 9941172)

"who is the chosen" . Sorry

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Reply 26 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 7/26/2014 2:20:11 PM     (No. 9941223)

Well done, #s 24 and 25, goes back to Ishmael in Scripture.

That´s a v simple reason why we as Americans must "Stand with Israel" because God does... It´s called the Abrahamic Covenant, God´s redemptive promise of grace.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: billa, 7/26/2014 3:21:44 PM     (No. 9941288)

Times are really tough and we need to make some difficult decsions globally that are necessary and will not find our left-wing, socialist and communist peoples´ approval.

The US needs to demand that Europe, Asia and Latin America stand up against Hamas and Palestinians. If it is not met sanctions and embargos should be put in place to cripple economies globally.

With respect to Russia & Putin... it is a hard call because BO is soooooo weak.

Easy call is to buy him off, but with his recent oil adventures, the US may not have enough money to do that.

Finally with our totally wide open border in the southwest, terrorists and illegal aliens from all over the world will be invading the US.

The only true solution is live in gated-communities with all the necessities of live enclosed.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: leonardo, 7/26/2014 5:39:59 PM     (No. 9941397)

The "Palestinian" people in the UNoccupied strips near Israel, THEMSELVES VOTED IN Hamas KILLERS as soulless as the ISIL murdering fanatics executing the "infidels" in Iraq. That the stupefied world cannot see a difference between the Hamas murderers and Israel speaks volumes. There is only 1 way that an intractable enemy sworn to annihilate you can be dealt with: UTTERLY destroy them once and for all and do it in such a way that other enemies watching for the murderers´ success will think twice before messing with Israel.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: F16 guy, 7/26/2014 6:25:34 PM     (No. 9941439)

Lots of notice from Israel, then the use of a small tactical nuclear weapon.

I see no other option to end the violence, and anything else is futile.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 7/26/2014 8:15:46 PM     (No. 9941533)

@#25_26: Rif the world of "every Jew"...? In Islam, they do not make reference to just Jewish people. They only call for the murder of every non-Islamic person...all infidels on the face of the earth. of course, the Islamist apologists, even in our midsts deny this vehemently. But, it is very true. They will never stop this murder rampage...and even if they succeed (which they may), they will still continue to murder each other. I have to wonder if it is God´s plan to control the population of people on the face of this small planet. We have no natural predators except ourselves.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: JediJerry, 7/26/2014 10:53:50 PM     (No. 9941615)

Excavating tunnels involves moving a tremendous amount of dirt and rocks as well as heavy equipment to get the work done. Did they dig these things by hand with shovels and wheelbarrows and scatter the dirt around with their feet at night with no one even noticing it at all? The fact that they did so much of it undetected is remarkable in and of itself and a smack in the face of Israeli intelligence. Ridiculousness.

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28 words that Democrats
really wish President Obama
didn’t say today

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Washington Post, by Chris Cillizza    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 10/2/2014 10:48:52 PM     Post Reply
President Obama was at Northwestern University on Thursday to deliver an economic speech that, he and his team hoped, would lay out the case for why the public is better off today than they were six years ago -- even if they didn´t feel it in their everday lives. Instead, Obama just gave every Republican ad-maker in the country more fodder for negative ads linking Democratic candidates to him. Here are the four sentences that will draw all of the attention (they come more than two thirds of the way through the speech): "I am not on the ballot this

Mitt Romney and 2016:
Could It Be True?

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ABC News, by Alana Abramson    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/2/2014 1:46:59 PM     Post Reply
A presidential defeat isn’t an easy thing to bounce back from. And Mitt Romney did it twice. So it was understandable that after he lost the presidential race in 2012, he was adamant about closing the door to the possibility of a third campaign. But recently, speculation is whirling that Romney may not be so adamant anymore. When asked if he was running in a New York Times interview published earlier this week, Romney said : “I have nothing to add to the story. We’ve got a lot of people looking at the race,” he said. “We’ll see what happens.” That response, which

Meghan McCain on Secret
Service: ´I hated all of them´

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 10/3/2014 12:30:44 AM     Post Reply
Meghan McCain joined the dog pile on the Secret Service this week, saying she’s had “nothing but horrible experiences" with the agency and likening the agents to “glorified mall cops.” The 29-year-old author and television personality, who is also the daughter of former GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), opened up on Pivot’s “TakePart Live” about some of her interactions with the Secret Service. "I have nothing but horrible experiences with the Secret Service,” McCain said. “One of my friends called them glorified mall cops and I don´t think that´s terribly far off. I found them cliquey. I hated

Some Blacks See Secret Service
as Flawed Shield for the President

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New York Times, by Peter Baker    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 12:16:43 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland was at the grocery store the other day when he ran into an elderly black woman who expressed growing concern about President Obama’s safety. Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents? The furor that led to this week’s resignation of the director of the Secret Service resonated deeply among blacks, outraged that those supposed to be guarding the first black president were somehow falling down on the job — and suspicious even without evidence that it may be deliberate. “It is something that is widespread in

White House says it has
Ebola virus under control

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Sarah Ferris    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 6:55:38 PM     Post Reply
Top White House officials on Friday worked to reassure the American public that the national response to Ebola is under control. Leaders of the country’s health, defense and military branches stressed that they are taking the right steps to contain the spread of the deadly virus, which was first diagnosed in the U.S. on Tuesday. Top White House officials on Friday worked to reassure the American public that the national response to Ebola is under control. Leaders of the country’s health, defense and military branches stressed that they are taking the right steps to contain the spread of the deadly virus, which

We’ve made the
Ebola crisis worse

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Telegraph [UK], by Geoffrey Lean    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 10/3/2014 11:45:50 PM     Post Reply
It is the stuff that nightmares are made of, and day by day it is getting worse. The Ebola epidemic, says Dr Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organisation (WHO), is now “the greatest peacetime challenge” since the Second World War. Yet her own organisation’s tardiness, partly caused by cuts, together with reductions in--and misuse of--funds elsewhere, are largely responsible for Ebola spiralling out of control. [Snip] It’s just the beginning. At present the numbers of people infected are thought to be doubling in under 30 days--and the blue-chip US Center for Disease Control and Prevention predicts that, if Ebola

Most Texas abortion clinics shut down
as abortion rights recede in South

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Christian Science Monitor, by Patrik Jonsson    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 10/4/2014 7:48:03 AM     Post Reply
ATLANTA — Texas, America’s second-most populous state behind California, saw 13 of its last abortion clinics turn away women on Friday, after a federal appeals court upheld a law that practically guarantees that only a handful of clinics will remain open in the state. The strictest-of-its-kind Texas law requires abortion providers to build hospital-grade facilities and obtain sometimes impossible-to-get hospital admitting privileges. After signed into law last year by Gov. Rick Perry (R), the law forced most of the 41 clinics operating to close. Thursday’s ruling wiped out a brief victory this summer for abortion rights proponents,

California’s next big political fight:
Plastic grocery bags

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Washington Post, by Reid Wilson    Original Article
Posted By: garnet- 10/3/2014 9:19:26 AM     Post Reply
Go to a grocery store in California and buy all the milk, eggs and vegetables you want. But there’s one thing you won’t find at the checkout line, beginning July 1, 2015: Plastic bags to carry your stuff home. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) on Tuesday signed into law a ban on single-use plastic bags, making California the first state to prohibit stores from using the ubiquitous carry-alls. Shoppers will be charged 10 cents for every paper bag and heavy-duty plastic bag they use. “This bill is a step in the right direction,” Brown said in a press release announcing his approval. “It


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