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Illegal Immigration Is
Not the Only Problem

American Thinker, by John Bennett

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Posted By:Judy W., 7/21/2014 7:32:38 AM

For all the belated talk of illegal immigration turning America into a “third world nation,” legal immigration has its harmful consequences as well. Imagine that your boss told you that an H1-B visa holder from Country X was going to take your job, and that you have to train your own replacement. This is exactly what is happening to some American IT workers, whose tragic and infuriating story was told by Patrick Thibodeau of Computerworld. Thibodeau tells the story of “A.B.,” the fictitious initials of an American IT worker who was put through an ordeal that can be described only as

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 7/21/2014 7:51:41 AM     (No. 9933516)

This story is an old one that has been happening for decades. Just cause we have abandon our borders doesn´t mean all immigration is bad. I do feel we need immigration reform. Not amnesty or unlimited numbers of immigrants but real reform. Unfortunately, whatever emerges as immigration reform will never be perfect and stories like these will emerge. However, the flip side is that American employees in certain fields now face competition for talent outside as well as inside the company. Not to be cruel but competition can be a good thing. Many of us have faced layoffs or being fired. It happens and it teaches us and makes us hungrier for a better job. Or we can waller in self pity and blame something else and never advance ourselves.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: altoona, 7/21/2014 8:13:49 AM     (No. 9933541)

I don´t like this end of the spectrum either. Not only is the practice awful for American workers, but it is bad for maintaining the safety of systems from theft (think China) and from sabotage (think jihadi). The heads of these companies and their bought and paid for congress members have no loyalty to the USA and its future survival.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/21/2014 8:16:32 AM     (No. 9933544)

Totally disagree #1. How can American workers compete on a level playing field when companies hire solely based upon the how little they are able to pay their employees? Please do not tell us that Americans are unable to do a better job when they can at least speak in a manner in which they are understood? That should count for something.

Unfortunately, we are seeing corporate greed on a global scale. They want customer loyalty but they certainly abandon the American workforce easily enough. I may sound harsh and/or naïve, but we have American citizens who need and want a job and I believe we should take care of our own first. When American businesses fled the country with their manufacturing plants, it might have filled the pockets of the shareholders but it certainly weakened the middle class. I will buy anything marked, Made in the USA, before I will buy foreign made items and I believe I am not alone in this.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Lt.Mom, 7/21/2014 8:49:17 AM     (No. 9933574)

American citizens should be forced to compete with the remainder of the world for jobs in America? This country was begun with a moral view of man and his relationship to God. It was left to the posterity of those with that understanding. Our country was never meant to be a global employment center. We are truly devolving if we are left to that crass view in this land.

Limited immigration for specific reasons can be beneficial, but do we really benefit from a Muslim Somali community in Minneapolis? How about the gangs in California, looking for a ´better life´ in the USA, or the huge influx of economic migrants wanting to provide better education, better health care and a higher standard of living to themselves and their posterity, paid for by the labor of American citizens.

All of these groups and the previous ´legal immigrants´ have one thing in common. The majority support socialist views and vote for Democrats. Are we really better off now?

Limited immigration and refugee status (thinking of the Iraqi Christians) with the possibility of verifiable green cards would have served us better.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: skedaddle, 7/21/2014 9:07:30 AM     (No. 9933598)

This article is about 20 years (or more) late but true, as far as it goes. This is what happens when multi-national corporations and multi-national government entities get to dictate what happens in our country. So far we´re in a race to the bottom on wages - we just haven´t loosened our zoning laws so we can build scrap tin & tarp slums that our newly impoverished people can afford.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 7/21/2014 9:42:14 AM     (No. 9933640)

This started to happen in the late 80´s after Teddy "the swimmer" immigration reform in 1986. With 92 million unemployed right now, all immigration - legal and illegal - should come to a halt until the coast is clear. Corporate greed and the Chamber of Commerce have a lot to do with this. And we shouldn´t forget the damage done by the unions. Many businesses can not compete. That is a reality.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 7/21/2014 10:18:16 AM     (No. 9933699)

Somehow, I suspect that #1 is not an engineer and has no children that are engineers. The H1-B has been used by "businessmen" to systematically suppress the salary structure of engineers in the US for years. In my observation the imported engineers do the "formula" work that requires only a minimum of engineering skill, meantime the company depends on a few of their staff - almost always Americans - to do the serious stuff. Yet, the overall salary structure is held down by the cheap, imported labor.

This reduced salary structure has for a couple of decades served to discourage those Americans capable of difficult professions from pursuing them. This has done significant damage to the American middle-class, in my opinion.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: enuf8, 7/21/2014 11:06:40 AM     (No. 9933759)

# 6 - You are correct - early 80´s Texas Instruments did this procedure. The influx was unbelievable. The visa holders were also told to assume common names here and tons of "john smiths" were the visa holders. The story was because their names were too hard to pronounce------or was it to cover up how many were taking the jobs of U.S. a citizen. With announcements of ´john smith´ hired didn´t raise any flags.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: fishbone, 7/21/2014 11:29:48 AM     (No. 9933801)

I remember articles and discussions while I was in college (Electrical Engineering) about this situation.

Our conclusion: "There is NO shortage of engineers. Only a shortage of engineers who don´t want lowered wages."

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Marzon, 7/21/2014 12:47:49 PM     (No. 9933922)

This happened to me at the end of the 90s. It´s illegal (Companies are supposed to prove that they can´t find local talent before using an H1-B holder) but it happens all the time in tech. Several of us thought about taking legal action but its hard to pay for lawyers when you have no job.

And Microsoft, among the loudest voices clamoring for more H1-B´s, just announced it is laying off 18,000 American workers.

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