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Cliven Bundy and the dangers
of fueling extremism

Washington Post, by Steven Horsford

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 7/19/2014 11:03:58 AM

It has been more than three months since my constituents in Bunkerville, Nev., had their lives turned upside down by the standoff at the Bundy ranch. Although Bunkerville (population 1,300) is no longer in the media spotlight, life there has not returned to normal. The militia presence may have dwindled, but a sense of chaos and uncertainty lingers in my state and the broader American West. When news of a rebellious rancher facing off with federal agents broke in April, conservative media and politicians pounced, quickly lionizing Cliven Bundy as a patriot. They handed Bundy a megaphone, and self-proclaimed militia members

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Hadjipoo, 7/19/2014 11:16:54 AM     (No. 9931575)

So... his solution, like Reid´s, is to sell public land to the Chinese? How dare this "rebellious rancher" take a stand!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 7/19/2014 11:28:56 AM     (No. 9931602)

I notice that neither his website nor his reelection web site states prominently his party affiliation. GUESS He may be from NV-4(?) but he does not represent his district.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chumley, 7/19/2014 11:29:55 AM     (No. 9931603)

It just drives them nuts that they dont have all the guns, and that free citizens have the means to resist.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/19/2014 11:33:53 AM     (No. 9931609)

#2, did you click on the article? The lead sentence states that he is a Democrat.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: columba, 7/19/2014 11:36:54 AM     (No. 9931614)

You gotta be aware of those extremists who raise cattle and alfalfa. Why it´s a downright outrage. They should live in an urban area and have green lawns and drink strange and sweet coffee beverages ... and vote for anyone who approves of killing turtles (oops) I mean babies.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 7/19/2014 11:39:21 AM     (No. 9931618)

That the Post reports his affiliation does not change the fact that he is hiding it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: enuf8, 7/19/2014 11:56:24 AM     (No. 9931644)

Among the dumbest to sit in a congressional seat in the House. He can´t even read many of the questions his staff has provided when questioning in hearings. He is good at blaming all the Republicans for asking tough questions and calling unnecessary committee hearings.



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Reply 8 - Posted by: Susannah, 7/19/2014 11:57:00 AM     (No. 9931645)

The banner headline at www.stevenhorsford.com states "Steven Horsford: Democrat for Congress." It´s pretty hard to miss, and it´s one of the first items that come up when you Google the name.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 7/19/2014 12:09:21 PM     (No. 9931667)

Horsford is my rep. Let me tell part of the letter I am writing to him:

Steven, thank God you were not part of the group we call "Founding Fathers". So, everything was cool with Bundy until he went all rogue against the present politically correct mantra? Did you ever bother even thinking there is a reason for the present mass outrage against the over reach of the Federal Government? Instead, you have focused on the most shallow portions of the "Bundy" event. Please, step back, take a much wider view of this wonderful country. Compare it to just twenty years ago! The outrage you see today is a result of mass frustration with an over powerful, all demanding Federal system which you are now a part of! We elected you to go in there and try to fix this mess. Instead, it turns out, you do not have even the most remote clue that there really is a mess!"

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Reply 10 - Posted by: MataHarley, 7/19/2014 12:18:00 PM     (No. 9931677)

#2 and #6, the official Congressional websites do not note party affiliation. Dean Heller´s Senate website, or Joe Heck´s House site - also NV elected officials - are both Republicans, and their party affiliations are also not noted. In fact, rules established by the House Oversight Committee INRE official websites forbid any personal, political or campaign information, or hotlinks, to external sites on their official website. So it seems to be common practice to adhere to rules, and not some nefarious attempt to hide being a Democrat.

Steven Horsford´s campaign site - Steven Horsford dot com - has a larger banner across the top that states... Steven Horsford, Democrat for Congress. Not sure how you missed that.

Lastly he does represent the district since he won 50.11% of the district´s votes to the GOP´s candidate with 42.11%. You may not like him, but apparently a size-able majority of voters in that district preferred him, and that´s what counts.





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Reply 11 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 7/19/2014 12:23:44 PM     (No. 9931683)

If Mr. Bundy had paid his grazing fees, even though he apparently felt he should not have to do so, he would have been in a much better legal position. Now, he´s stuck.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: dwa, 7/19/2014 12:49:25 PM     (No. 9931704)

What this liberal Rep fails to state is the over-the-top armed federal agents with snipers that were there BEFORE the militia people arrived. The response was to a tyrannical government who thinks it can run roughshod over the citizenry because they have guns and (they wish) we don´t. The response by Bundy and the militia is not the extremism, it is the governments action that is and this idiot democrat is too blinded by his ideology to see it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ruready?, 7/19/2014 1:01:18 PM     (No. 9931717)

Exactly, #12. This was not about Bundy any more than Mississippi was about Cochran. The Bundy incident is about the government (grazing fees, pretty funny) and Mississippi is about the GOP.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: dvc, 7/19/2014 1:25:18 PM     (No. 9931742)

These "extremists" should be seen as canaries in the coal mine, warning that if the feds continue their thuggish, fascist approach to people, eventually even the non-extremists will have to think hard about what is acceptable behavior for federal "law enforcement".

Events at Ruby Ridge and Waco were shocking and to the extent this sort of misbehavior by "federal agents" continues, more and more normal people find themselves questioning federal law enforcment.

I think it is clear that Bundy should have payed his grazing fees, but there are reports that perhaps the steady increasing of these fees was primarily intended to drive him off the land so it could be used to enrich Harry Reid and other investors from China. If this is true, then this is a whole different story.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Coy860, 7/19/2014 1:32:48 PM     (No. 9931751)

Perhaps his opinion of "extremists" should focus on Washington, DC.
Eric Holder is an extremist.
Obama is an extremeist.
Harry Reid is an extremeist.
Hillary Clinton is an extremist.
Lois Lerner is an extremist.
They flaunt their power using the US government against the People.
Way more far reaching than anything Bundy and his cattle will ever do to me.
PS
I can live without the desert turtle too.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bkt23, 7/19/2014 2:19:36 PM     (No. 9931803)

Other than postal roads and the District of Columbia, the Federal government should own absolutely no land. Land within a state´s border belongs to the people of that state.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: web, 7/19/2014 2:48:37 PM     (No. 9931824)

Just what I was about to say. Why does the federal government need to own and manage any land? The states could manage any of this land much better than the feds. Google "border trash" to see how well they are "managing" the areas along the border.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 7/19/2014 3:27:03 PM     (No. 9931862)

Horsford is a pathetic lib. Since the Bundy episode, Horsford has been busy running Dow to the border with Pelosi and telling everyone how we need to help all of these "children." I hope he loses. He also does everything Dingy Harry tells him to do.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 7/19/2014 3:28:10 PM     (No. 9931864)

That would be down to the border.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: patpgmr, 7/19/2014 4:21:16 PM     (No. 9931890)

A government that condones law breaking by illegal aliens doesn´t impress me when they go after a guy for grazing fees and huge penalties. I pay my taxes too, but I haven´t been harassed by the Federal government, so I don´t presume to vilify Clive Bundy. He´ll be punished in the end by the government, so all of you who want that outcome will get your wishes. The government will get you too, if they decide they want to. Don´t forget that.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 7/19/2014 4:35:23 PM     (No. 9931899)

In the dry west the real battle is not about grazing fees . it is about the usual politician grabbing WATER for one of his/her enterprises.
Reid sold dry BLM land to a foreign company for not just a solar farm assuming they could steal a water right by prosecuting the owner with grandfather rights.
Westerners fight back to keep their water.
A former lush valley in Idaho is now dry and arid because the water thieves have political clout. A valley and extended areas where farmers and ranchers have fought water theft for around a 100 years.


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