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Congressman Predicts Victory
in Lawsuit Against Obama

Washington Free Beacon [DC], by Elizabeth Harrington

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Posted By:JoniTx, 7/17/2014 12:21:30 AM

Rep. Tom Rice (R., S.C.) and constitutional law expert David Rivkin on Wednesday predicted victory in the lawsuit the House is launching against President Barack Obama. The House Rules Committee held a hearing on the proposed lawsuit, which is intended to prove the unconstitutionality of Obama’s unilateral delay of the employer mandate portion of the Affordable Care Act. Witnesses at the hearing argued about whether the House has standing to sue the president to enforce the law. “I’m very optimistic that this lawsuit will succeed,” Rivkin said in an interview. “I certainly expect there to be a propaganda offensive to

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: stablemoney, 7/17/2014 1:02:10 AM     (No. 9928101)

Turley and Prof. Elizabeth Foley´s testimony very impressive at the House hearing. The opposing hacks discussed history, adjusted their mikes, and spoke of everything but the law, from which I drew the impression did not favor them, as they did not mention it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/17/2014 1:19:36 AM     (No. 9928108)

Are they going to talk it to death for months or act ?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CleanhouseinDC, 7/17/2014 1:45:28 AM     (No. 9928124)

So they sue him. He loses. The employer mandate is put in place. None of this will be finalized before the election.

They going to spend the next 2 years filing lawsuit after lawsuit challenging his executive orders?

They still don´t have the cajones to go after zippy or anyone in his administration. They just go after conservatives and taxpayers.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lil dotty, 7/17/2014 1:56:42 AM     (No. 9928140)

So the House wins the lawsuit (we should be so lucky!) What does this mean? WTP line up and spank the bottom of the bow-boy with a paddle, spat his hands, he gives back the trillions he has stolen from WTP, he invites all to his next super party Pow Wow in our White House. What punishment will he receive?
Exactly, none and he will ignore any instructions he might be given should he lose

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Starlady, 7/17/2014 7:18:16 AM     (No. 9928312)

Judge Napolitano was just on Fox saying this is nothing more than a political stunt. Last night I heard on Fox News it won´t come before a judge until 2016.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Joe vann, 7/17/2014 8:07:53 AM     (No. 9928378)

I believe this is a positive step and I am proud of the House for taking it. Trey Gowdy is no top water and he will preside over these hearings. Obama´s fondness wish is for the House to impeach him...before this fall´s election...which would be madness.

The delaying tactics of the left are hard to deal with, when a thug us in charge of the a Justice Depsrtment and the FBI has been compromised by the regime. What do you complainers propose the House to do in order to prosecute these people ? Never forget the msm is looking for a way to make US look like fools and racist.

If we don´t scew up this falls election, which many of US are prone to do, we will have a real chance to impeach the tyrant. In the mean time save you ammunition for the enemy...not friendliest.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/17/2014 8:08:13 AM     (No. 9928379)

If the House believes he has overstepped his authority, then impeachment should be the remedy. This lawsuit is a coward´s way out. Republicans are so afraid of the backlash of impeachment that they want nothing to do with it and have hit on this folly to try and appear to be doing something. What this accomplishes is nothing. It gives Obama a smart aleck talking point. He manages to turn the tables on Republicans with little effort. It is getting to be more and more like watching a Road Runner cartoon.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: grace1798, 7/17/2014 8:12:51 AM     (No. 9928386)

Pray to the LORD that The LORD would confuse and confound the plans and traps of the wicked (we know who they are) and that THE LORD would let their own plans and traps fall on their own heads. Please pray for victory for the children of God all around this earth every day and every night.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Passion, 7/17/2014 8:18:26 AM     (No. 9928395)

The Jonathon Turley versus Mark Levin opinions in this are fascinating…..counter intuitive…..

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Refried, 7/17/2014 8:20:08 AM     (No. 9928397)

If Mohammed were impeached tomorrow NOTHING would come of it in a legal sense.
House impeachment means nothing unless the Senate sitting as a jury finds him guilty by a 2/3 vote.
Does anyone here really think that 66 senators would vote to throw him out of office?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/17/2014 8:38:49 AM     (No. 9928422)

#10, you´re absolutely right. But, I can understand the emotional appeal of an effort to at least humiliate Barack Obama with an impeachment effort. I worry that it would be an enormous waste of energy and resources and the worst part is that Obama wants us to do it. A GOP effort to impeach would drain all the focus from IRS, Benghazi, the Mexican border, John Kerry´s ineffectual diplomacy, Eric Holder´s dereliction of AG duty, to say nothing of the GOP effort to take the Senate in preparation for a hoped-for victory in the 2016 presidential race.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: RancherJack, 7/17/2014 8:53:17 AM     (No. 9928444)

Wooo-hoo ... a piece of paper! A strongly worded letter!

Yea!!!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/17/2014 9:08:41 AM     (No. 9928473)

While BO may deserve impeachment, they would never get enough dem support in the Senate to get it done. (Unless the fool does something so egregious that even the dems can´t ignore it). So let´s get real.

This lawsuit has a good chance of winning. If it does it will shred BOCare. The infrastructure to enforce the mandate does NOT exist. It will highlight the failure of the law once again. AND it will set precedent for BO´s other distortions of law to be attacked. It will tangle up his administration in lawsuits for the next couple years which will keep him from doing more damage. And it will keep the public focus on the illegal actions of this extreme liberal administration.

It´s about time that someone confiscated BO´s phone and pen. We are a nation of laws, not community grievance organizer whims. People are noting that BO seems disconnected from his job and maybe even a bit from reality. What will happen when the heat is turned up some more? It could he interesting and it couldn´t happen to a more deserving guy.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: stryker714, 7/17/2014 9:19:20 AM     (No. 9928492)

Some like to hypothesize that Republicans won´t do anything to stop Barack Hussain Obama because they are afraid of being called racists, riots will happen or that "this is exactly what Obama wants". Well one question? How do you know that is what he wants? Sounds like enemy trolls planting mind-propaganda to me.

The most likely reason for Republicans´ lack of testosterone eclipses any of these previously suggested notions: money. The Republicans we see but do not hear are making enormous amounts of money from Obama being president. That is the only possible explanation. Follow the money-they are in on his diabolical reign, may even throw elections to keep status-quo: We had two lame candidates in a row(not including Sarah Palin of course), who showed they really did not want to win. McCain took a microphone away from a lady at a political event, scolded her, told her Obama is certainly "not a Muslim, but a good man". Romney could have torpedoed Obama for good over Benghazi in debates but he played nice and lost.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: pineledger, 7/17/2014 9:23:01 AM     (No. 9928501)

Obama wants impeachment proceedings, which in and of itself is reason not to do it. He knows they would only further divide the country, which is his goal, and likely result in violence. Why would we want to play into his hand like that?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: chillijilli, 7/17/2014 10:06:23 AM     (No. 9928572)

I may be in the minority here but I think the lawsuit is a very strategic political maneuver designed to keep the Administration on edge and in tow during the run up to the midterms and 2016. It will just quietly run in the background, surfacing when significant testimony is given. It will keep the Demos scattered, which will obliterate one of their most historic strengths---their unity.
There´s a very brutal chess game going on. Slow but deliberate moves are often needed before we can get to the endgame.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MattMusson, 7/17/2014 10:06:46 AM     (No. 9928575)

And, OBama is suddenly going to pay attention to the law if the courts tell him to?

Grow up.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: M2, 7/17/2014 10:31:30 AM     (No. 9928613)

“There’s just no way a court would find that the House of Representatives as an institution has been harmed by President Obama attempting in good faith to implement the ACA,” Catholic University law professor Victor Williams told Politico.

Of course the House is "harmed." How can the members be expected to do the job voters elected them to do if everything they dispose to legislate is immediately or shortly thereafter invalidated by the president? As a result, voters view their elected Representatives as ineffective, harming their ability to get re-elected and harming their ability to legislate effectively.

Worse, the president is NOT acting "in good faith". He is acting in bad faith, using his pen and his phone to do that which enhanced and continues to enhance his far Left agenda so that voters don´t become angry at him for not acting.

This is Kabuki theater. We all know it. I am praying mightily that this lawsuit will proceed apace and that we will be victorious.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/17/2014 10:50:47 AM     (No. 9928640)

#7, a recent article by Jonathon Moseley in American Thinker makes the case for lawsuit vs. impeachment and says, in part:

It makes no sense to demand the drastic step of impeachment, which is highly unlikely to succeed. Furthermore, a Supreme Court precedent would be binding on future presidents. Impeaching one president would not prevent the next president from the same violation.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/boehners_brilliant_lawsuit.html

There´s another article "Could Boehner Enforce Lawsuit Against Obama?"

"f the U.S. Supreme Court rules that Obama exceeded his authority, then the directives and regulations imposed on your power plant are null and void. Obama cannot enforce his overreach against you. He cannot enlist the courts or any law enforcement. Therefore, a court decision would be automatically self-enforcing.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/could_boehner_enforce_lawsuit_against_obama.html


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Reply 20 - Posted by: dman, 7/17/2014 10:55:27 AM     (No. 9928651)

We need to do "all of the above". Try the lawsuit, but don´t let expectations get too high. And don´t let an ongoing lawsuit impede other efforts. Proceed with Levin´s Article V approach, and proceed with impeachment.

Impeachment, especially in an election year, "calls the question" with the voters. If the public does not see cause for it, the effort will fail as it did with Clinton. If it does (as with Nixon) it will be effective.

Nixon resigned because party leaders convinced him that the House would impeach and the Senate would convict. Public sentiment was enough to do the job. The Emperor won´t resign, of course, but not even Democrat senators will resist public pressure to be rid of this traitor. They will be thinking about 2016. Get the mandate, and you have a reasonable chance of getting the 16+ Democrats needed.

And no, "crazy Joe" would not be worse.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/17/2014 11:15:13 AM     (No. 9928683)

This is the right plan for now. Good legal minds have put this lawsuit together and other good legal minds believe it will succeed. No, it´s not immediate gratification, but as other posters have pointed out, a victory in this lawsuit puts a governor (in the vehicle sense) on future presidents. Impeachment of Barack Obama impedes no future occupier of the White House.

The Levin plan is a really, really bad idea. And, I´m pretty sure Levin understands it´s a bad idea, but since it won´t happen, it´s ok.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Tulunk, 7/17/2014 1:04:30 PM     (No. 9928904)

Winning lawsuits and dismissal of corrupt officials is just a bunch of words unless it is backed up with imprisonment and financial penalties. Lois Lerner? Early retirement? Yeah. With full pay and perks. Bill Clinton, and Hilary? Corrupt beyond imagination. Impeached, but rolling in cash. Other federal crooks are "suspended", but actually just shifted laterally to another job with identical perks. Millionaires are awarded lucrative contracts in exchange for donations. If they get found out, tut tut. Shame on you. Keep the money.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 7/17/2014 1:40:07 PM     (No. 9928950)

@#2: They´re going to talk it to death. Regardless of the outcome, Obama will ignore any findings, rulings or judgements and continue to march us off the cliff. Running out the clock is all that can stop him, unless he runs for a 3rd term, which is highly likely with a personality such as it is. Don´t put it past him to bellyache the public should have a right to vote for the person of their choice, regardless of the constitutional restriction. His argument will be the two congressional chambers and the SC are not subject to term limits so why should he....

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Reply 24 - Posted by: dbdiva, 7/17/2014 1:47:18 PM     (No. 9928955)

It would be simpler (and cheaper) to inform our Fearless Reader that he either comply with Constitutional law or else Congress would confiscate his golf clubs and make it illegal for anyone to sell him new clubs. Oh.... and if that doesn´t do the trick he would be handcuffed to MO 24/7/365. I don´t imagine he would be happy about that.
If nothing else that would ensure that they only take ONE plane instead of two on their myriad vacations.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ebuilder, 7/17/2014 1:52:12 PM     (No. 9928962)

All you savvy republicans who know the democrat senate will do nothing forget one thing. If the truth is we have an illegal President -- is he? -- who is overthrowing, not just transforming the country -- is he? -- by bankrupting and overregulating and chaos making and invasion making and weakening us and our children and military everywhere, top down, bottom up, inside out without end and laughing at us from Martha´s Vineyard or Putin´s lap or the border -- is he? -- an "incompetent" who cannot be stopped by normal constitutional channels because the idiot/smart gobshite republicans and Diane say so -- and he plays golf and gets stoned with his plaything and covers up Benghazi and his scandals and laughs at you -- they, the savvy ones, therefore justify other edgier means of self defense to stop this treason which is the right of a free people. Not to mention these savvy gobshite republicans who are so far ahead as to know Obama is inviting his arrest or impeachment -- actually daring some savvy establishment republican drunk to arrest him -- are in the same boat with the liberal guy who automatically believes he is smarter than everybody -- this version being the guy who waits and waits because he is too savvy to restrain the treason because he KNOWS it cnnot not work, and he KNOWS elections could be lost, and he KNOWS conservatives [who say things like "DEPORT -- CLOSE THE BORDER -- CUT OFF THEIR MONEY"] are dangerous, and he KNOWS a race war involving his worst idea of black stereotype madmen would come more immediately than the WWIII scenario or collapse of America scenario starting next week that Obama and well funded, silent republicans have well in hand. "Stay savvy San Diego."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: nevernaught, 7/17/2014 2:32:11 PM     (No. 9929006)

I´m thinking more and more that Impeachment should wait until Republicans get control of both the Senate and House. If that happens then he could be Impeached in the House.

The problem with this whole procedure is that it takes a 2/3rd majority in the Senate to convict and remove him from office. That would take some Democrats to go along. If they didn´t, Republicans could make life miserable for the President and Democrats the last two years of office with program cancellations and whatnot.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 7/17/2014 3:55:27 PM     (No. 9929099)

No 3 is missing the point. They don´t care when or if the mandate is or is not established. They are looking for a case of Obama writing law. Only Congress can write law. If Obama does it he is usurping the authority of Congress. This gives the House "standing".

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Reply 28 - Posted by: loveUSA, 7/17/2014 5:06:36 PM     (No. 9929186)

Impeach Holder first and then King Barry.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/17/2014 5:43:09 PM     (No. 9929245)

The ONE thing the Depends wearing bed wetters in the House can do that is actually effective against the tyrant-in-chief and is what they were hired to do is defund the executive orders, but they won´t because they are COWARDS. This lawsuit is exactly as powerful as the House crying, "I´m tellin´ Mom!!" Sad to see Gowdy get sucked into another GOP farce, playing right into the Cloward-Piven-Alinsky-ites...again, again.

And we laugh at the Babylonians for taking several weeks to realize Cyrus overtook them. We´re six years into the takeover and we still haven´t realized it.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: WIBadger, 7/17/2014 7:04:23 PM     (No. 9929320)

Of course they´re optimistic they will win. Why file it if they felt otherwise ? Let´s assume they´re proven right. Then what ? They wag their fingers & Barky continues to do what he´s been doing. SCOTUS be damned.....

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The United Nations Climate Summit will begin in New York this Tuesday, but environmental activists didn’t wait. All day Sunday, they filled the streets of Manhattan for a march that featured Al Gore, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio, and various Hollywood actors. But they certainly didn’t act like a movement that was winning. There was a tone of fatalism in the comments of many with whom I spoke; they despair that the kind of radical change they advocate probably won’t result from the normal democratic process. It’s no surprise then that the rhetoric of climate-change activists has become increasingly

Afghan soldiers missing
from Joint Base Cape Cod

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Cape Cod Times [MA], by George Brennan    Original Article
Posted By: happywarrior- 9/22/2014 6:22:41 AM     Post Reply
Camp Edwards - Police and military officials are searching for three officers from the Afghanistan National Army who were engaged in a training exercise at Joint Base Cape Cod. Massachusetts National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. James Sahady said the three men were reported missing on Saturday night after travelling into Hyannis that day. “They didn´t report back (to the base),” Sahady said. “There is no indication they pose a threat to the public.” Police and base officials are cooperating in the search for the three men, identified as Maj. Jan Mohammad Arash, Capt. Mohammad Nasir Askarzada, and Capt. Noorullah Aminyar.

Robert F Kennedy Jr loses his cool
and grabs mic from reporter pushing
him about his own carbon footprint

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Daily Mail [UK], by Mia De Graaf    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 9/22/2014 2:21:31 PM     Post Reply
He was a leading figure in one of the biggest climate change marches to date. But it seems Robert F Kennedy Jr was not so forthcoming when it came to questions about his own carbon footprint. Confronted by a reporter asking if he would give up his phone and car, the environmental lawyer became visibly irate before grabbing the microphone and accusing her of ´destroying democracy´ as a member of the press. The interview in New York yesterday afternoon started with a conversation about the number of flyers produced for the event, which Kennedy Jr claimed was necessary to garner ´people power´.

The Hillary Letters
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Washington Free Beacon [DC], by Alana Goodman    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/22/2014 3:29:20 AM     Post Reply
Note: Read the Hillary Clinton-Saul Alinsky Letters here. Previously unpublished correspondence between Hillary Clinton and the late left-wing organizer Saul Alinsky reveal new details about her relationship with the controversial Chicago activist and shed light on her early ideological development. Clinton met with Alinsky several times in 1968 while writing a Wellesley college thesis about his theory of community organizing. Clinton’s relationship with Alinsky, and her support for his philosophy, continued for several years after she entered Yale law school in 1969, two letters obtained by the Washington Free Beacon show. The letters obtained by the Free Beacon are part

Democrats Are Poised To Hold The
Senate, And It´s Conservative´s Fault

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Townhall, by Derek Hunter    Original Article
Posted By: SpeedMaster- 9/21/2014 12:25:17 PM     Post Reply
I know a lot of people are giddy at the prospect of Republicans taking the Senate this November, but that’s becoming less and less likely. It’s not because Democrats are rallying around a particular mission or set of candidates; it’s because Republicans and conservatives aren’t. It seems like I’m always writing on issues no one wants to hear are mistakes, such as messaging or social issues. But I don’t care. These things have to be said. If these columns are received like a gaseous cousin on a long car trip through the desert, so be it. Crack a window… If things continue on their current course, the GOP will not retake the Senate.

Four teachings from Jesus
that everybody gets wrong

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CNN, by Amy-Jill Levine    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/21/2014 3:52:29 PM     Post Reply
It was once said, “religion is designed to comfort the afflicted and to afflict the comfortable.” Jesus’ parables – short stories with moral lessons – were likewise designed to afflict, to draw us in but leave us uncomfortable. These teachings can be read as being about divine love and salvation, sure. But, their first listeners – first century Jews in Galilee and Judea – heard much more challenging messages. Only when we hear the parables as Jesus’ own audience did can we fully experience their power and find ourselves surprised and challenged today. Here are four examples of Jesus’ teachings that everybody gets wrong: 1.

Rick Perry Defends In-State Tuition for
Illegals, Despite Tough Border Talk

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Breitbart Texas, by Sarah Rumph    Original Article
Posted By: SpeedMaster- 9/22/2014 9:19:05 AM     Post Reply
AUSTIN, Texas -- At an event today at the University of Texas Austin campus, Texas Governor Rick Perry reaffirmed his support of allowing illegal immigrant students to pay in-state tuition at Texas colleges and universities, while U.S. citizens from other states continue to pay higher out-of-state tuition rates. Perry made his remarks in a "One-on-One Conversation" with Texas Tribune CEO and Editor-in-Chief Evan Smith at the Texas Tribune Festival, an annual event organized by the online media outlet. Breitbart Texas made several queries to Governor Perry´s press office for comment, but as of press time,

Wesleyan rules fraternities
must start accepting women

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmer    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 9/22/2014 2:43:16 PM     Post Reply
Fraternities at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Connecticut, must start accepting women and all residential fraternities must become fully co-educational over the next three years, the school’s Board of Trustees has ruled. The decision was made “with equality and inclusion in mind,” school President Michael Roth and Trustee Chairman Joshua Boger wrote in an email to students on Monday, Business Insider reported. “Our residential Greek organizations inspire loyalty, community and independence. That’s why all our students should be eligible to join them.” The school has focused on issues with Greek life ever since a woman filed a lawsuit against Wesleyan two years ago

People´s Climate March projects
crowd of over 100,000 people

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New York Daily News, by Connie Lestch    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/21/2014 11:30:33 AM     Post Reply
The forecast is for people, and lots of them. The People’s Climate March is expected to bring more than 100,000 people who want to save the planet to the city Sunday. The march to address climate change, billed as the largest in history, is occurring two days before President Obama and world leaders attend a summit dealing with the same issue at the United Nations. U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon — who has fought passionately against global warming — along with celebrities, CEOs and activists are expected to descend on the city for the massive event.

Obama Taps Star General to Build
Syrian Rebel Army to Fight ISIS

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Daily Beast, by Josh Rogin & Eli Lake    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/22/2014 5:18:07 AM     Post Reply
Gen. Michael Nagata is promising to build a new force to destroy ISIS, but lawmakers worry he has been given an impossible mission. As lawmakers prepared to take a risky and fateful vote on Obama’s plan to train and equip the Syrian rebels, the man who assured them it could be done was Gen. Michael Nagata, Obama’s point man for the mission to build an ISIS-killing army in Syria. There are skeptics both inside and outside the government who doubt Obama’s new plan to arm the Syrian rebels can work. First of all, the administration has said for years that the moderate


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