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Congressman Predicts Victory
in Lawsuit Against Obama

Washington Free Beacon [DC], by Elizabeth Harrington

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Posted By:JoniTx, 7/17/2014 12:21:30 AM

Rep. Tom Rice (R., S.C.) and constitutional law expert David Rivkin on Wednesday predicted victory in the lawsuit the House is launching against President Barack Obama. The House Rules Committee held a hearing on the proposed lawsuit, which is intended to prove the unconstitutionality of Obama’s unilateral delay of the employer mandate portion of the Affordable Care Act. Witnesses at the hearing argued about whether the House has standing to sue the president to enforce the law. “I’m very optimistic that this lawsuit will succeed,” Rivkin said in an interview. “I certainly expect there to be a propaganda offensive to

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: stablemoney, 7/17/2014 1:02:10 AM     (No. 9928101)

Turley and Prof. Elizabeth Foley´s testimony very impressive at the House hearing. The opposing hacks discussed history, adjusted their mikes, and spoke of everything but the law, from which I drew the impression did not favor them, as they did not mention it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/17/2014 1:19:36 AM     (No. 9928108)

Are they going to talk it to death for months or act ?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CleanhouseinDC, 7/17/2014 1:45:28 AM     (No. 9928124)

So they sue him. He loses. The employer mandate is put in place. None of this will be finalized before the election.

They going to spend the next 2 years filing lawsuit after lawsuit challenging his executive orders?

They still don´t have the cajones to go after zippy or anyone in his administration. They just go after conservatives and taxpayers.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lil dotty, 7/17/2014 1:56:42 AM     (No. 9928140)

So the House wins the lawsuit (we should be so lucky!) What does this mean? WTP line up and spank the bottom of the bow-boy with a paddle, spat his hands, he gives back the trillions he has stolen from WTP, he invites all to his next super party Pow Wow in our White House. What punishment will he receive?
Exactly, none and he will ignore any instructions he might be given should he lose

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Starlady, 7/17/2014 7:18:16 AM     (No. 9928312)

Judge Napolitano was just on Fox saying this is nothing more than a political stunt. Last night I heard on Fox News it won´t come before a judge until 2016.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Joe vann, 7/17/2014 8:07:53 AM     (No. 9928378)

I believe this is a positive step and I am proud of the House for taking it. Trey Gowdy is no top water and he will preside over these hearings. Obama´s fondness wish is for the House to impeach him...before this fall´s election...which would be madness.

The delaying tactics of the left are hard to deal with, when a thug us in charge of the a Justice Depsrtment and the FBI has been compromised by the regime. What do you complainers propose the House to do in order to prosecute these people ? Never forget the msm is looking for a way to make US look like fools and racist.

If we don´t scew up this falls election, which many of US are prone to do, we will have a real chance to impeach the tyrant. In the mean time save you ammunition for the enemy...not friendliest.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/17/2014 8:08:13 AM     (No. 9928379)

If the House believes he has overstepped his authority, then impeachment should be the remedy. This lawsuit is a coward´s way out. Republicans are so afraid of the backlash of impeachment that they want nothing to do with it and have hit on this folly to try and appear to be doing something. What this accomplishes is nothing. It gives Obama a smart aleck talking point. He manages to turn the tables on Republicans with little effort. It is getting to be more and more like watching a Road Runner cartoon.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: grace1798, 7/17/2014 8:12:51 AM     (No. 9928386)

Pray to the LORD that The LORD would confuse and confound the plans and traps of the wicked (we know who they are) and that THE LORD would let their own plans and traps fall on their own heads. Please pray for victory for the children of God all around this earth every day and every night.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Passion, 7/17/2014 8:18:26 AM     (No. 9928395)

The Jonathon Turley versus Mark Levin opinions in this are fascinating…..counter intuitive…..

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Refried, 7/17/2014 8:20:08 AM     (No. 9928397)

If Mohammed were impeached tomorrow NOTHING would come of it in a legal sense.
House impeachment means nothing unless the Senate sitting as a jury finds him guilty by a 2/3 vote.
Does anyone here really think that 66 senators would vote to throw him out of office?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/17/2014 8:38:49 AM     (No. 9928422)

#10, you´re absolutely right. But, I can understand the emotional appeal of an effort to at least humiliate Barack Obama with an impeachment effort. I worry that it would be an enormous waste of energy and resources and the worst part is that Obama wants us to do it. A GOP effort to impeach would drain all the focus from IRS, Benghazi, the Mexican border, John Kerry´s ineffectual diplomacy, Eric Holder´s dereliction of AG duty, to say nothing of the GOP effort to take the Senate in preparation for a hoped-for victory in the 2016 presidential race.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: RancherJack, 7/17/2014 8:53:17 AM     (No. 9928444)

Wooo-hoo ... a piece of paper! A strongly worded letter!

Yea!!!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/17/2014 9:08:41 AM     (No. 9928473)

While BO may deserve impeachment, they would never get enough dem support in the Senate to get it done. (Unless the fool does something so egregious that even the dems can´t ignore it). So let´s get real.

This lawsuit has a good chance of winning. If it does it will shred BOCare. The infrastructure to enforce the mandate does NOT exist. It will highlight the failure of the law once again. AND it will set precedent for BO´s other distortions of law to be attacked. It will tangle up his administration in lawsuits for the next couple years which will keep him from doing more damage. And it will keep the public focus on the illegal actions of this extreme liberal administration.

It´s about time that someone confiscated BO´s phone and pen. We are a nation of laws, not community grievance organizer whims. People are noting that BO seems disconnected from his job and maybe even a bit from reality. What will happen when the heat is turned up some more? It could he interesting and it couldn´t happen to a more deserving guy.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: stryker714, 7/17/2014 9:19:20 AM     (No. 9928492)

Some like to hypothesize that Republicans won´t do anything to stop Barack Hussain Obama because they are afraid of being called racists, riots will happen or that "this is exactly what Obama wants". Well one question? How do you know that is what he wants? Sounds like enemy trolls planting mind-propaganda to me.

The most likely reason for Republicans´ lack of testosterone eclipses any of these previously suggested notions: money. The Republicans we see but do not hear are making enormous amounts of money from Obama being president. That is the only possible explanation. Follow the money-they are in on his diabolical reign, may even throw elections to keep status-quo: We had two lame candidates in a row(not including Sarah Palin of course), who showed they really did not want to win. McCain took a microphone away from a lady at a political event, scolded her, told her Obama is certainly "not a Muslim, but a good man". Romney could have torpedoed Obama for good over Benghazi in debates but he played nice and lost.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: pineledger, 7/17/2014 9:23:01 AM     (No. 9928501)

Obama wants impeachment proceedings, which in and of itself is reason not to do it. He knows they would only further divide the country, which is his goal, and likely result in violence. Why would we want to play into his hand like that?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: chillijilli, 7/17/2014 10:06:23 AM     (No. 9928572)

I may be in the minority here but I think the lawsuit is a very strategic political maneuver designed to keep the Administration on edge and in tow during the run up to the midterms and 2016. It will just quietly run in the background, surfacing when significant testimony is given. It will keep the Demos scattered, which will obliterate one of their most historic strengths---their unity.
There´s a very brutal chess game going on. Slow but deliberate moves are often needed before we can get to the endgame.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MattMusson, 7/17/2014 10:06:46 AM     (No. 9928575)

And, OBama is suddenly going to pay attention to the law if the courts tell him to?

Grow up.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: M2, 7/17/2014 10:31:30 AM     (No. 9928613)

“There’s just no way a court would find that the House of Representatives as an institution has been harmed by President Obama attempting in good faith to implement the ACA,” Catholic University law professor Victor Williams told Politico.

Of course the House is "harmed." How can the members be expected to do the job voters elected them to do if everything they dispose to legislate is immediately or shortly thereafter invalidated by the president? As a result, voters view their elected Representatives as ineffective, harming their ability to get re-elected and harming their ability to legislate effectively.

Worse, the president is NOT acting "in good faith". He is acting in bad faith, using his pen and his phone to do that which enhanced and continues to enhance his far Left agenda so that voters don´t become angry at him for not acting.

This is Kabuki theater. We all know it. I am praying mightily that this lawsuit will proceed apace and that we will be victorious.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/17/2014 10:50:47 AM     (No. 9928640)

#7, a recent article by Jonathon Moseley in American Thinker makes the case for lawsuit vs. impeachment and says, in part:

It makes no sense to demand the drastic step of impeachment, which is highly unlikely to succeed. Furthermore, a Supreme Court precedent would be binding on future presidents. Impeaching one president would not prevent the next president from the same violation.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/boehners_brilliant_lawsuit.html

There´s another article "Could Boehner Enforce Lawsuit Against Obama?"

"f the U.S. Supreme Court rules that Obama exceeded his authority, then the directives and regulations imposed on your power plant are null and void. Obama cannot enforce his overreach against you. He cannot enlist the courts or any law enforcement. Therefore, a court decision would be automatically self-enforcing.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/could_boehner_enforce_lawsuit_against_obama.html


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Reply 20 - Posted by: dman, 7/17/2014 10:55:27 AM     (No. 9928651)

We need to do "all of the above". Try the lawsuit, but don´t let expectations get too high. And don´t let an ongoing lawsuit impede other efforts. Proceed with Levin´s Article V approach, and proceed with impeachment.

Impeachment, especially in an election year, "calls the question" with the voters. If the public does not see cause for it, the effort will fail as it did with Clinton. If it does (as with Nixon) it will be effective.

Nixon resigned because party leaders convinced him that the House would impeach and the Senate would convict. Public sentiment was enough to do the job. The Emperor won´t resign, of course, but not even Democrat senators will resist public pressure to be rid of this traitor. They will be thinking about 2016. Get the mandate, and you have a reasonable chance of getting the 16+ Democrats needed.

And no, "crazy Joe" would not be worse.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/17/2014 11:15:13 AM     (No. 9928683)

This is the right plan for now. Good legal minds have put this lawsuit together and other good legal minds believe it will succeed. No, it´s not immediate gratification, but as other posters have pointed out, a victory in this lawsuit puts a governor (in the vehicle sense) on future presidents. Impeachment of Barack Obama impedes no future occupier of the White House.

The Levin plan is a really, really bad idea. And, I´m pretty sure Levin understands it´s a bad idea, but since it won´t happen, it´s ok.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Tulunk, 7/17/2014 1:04:30 PM     (No. 9928904)

Winning lawsuits and dismissal of corrupt officials is just a bunch of words unless it is backed up with imprisonment and financial penalties. Lois Lerner? Early retirement? Yeah. With full pay and perks. Bill Clinton, and Hilary? Corrupt beyond imagination. Impeached, but rolling in cash. Other federal crooks are "suspended", but actually just shifted laterally to another job with identical perks. Millionaires are awarded lucrative contracts in exchange for donations. If they get found out, tut tut. Shame on you. Keep the money.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 7/17/2014 1:40:07 PM     (No. 9928950)

@#2: They´re going to talk it to death. Regardless of the outcome, Obama will ignore any findings, rulings or judgements and continue to march us off the cliff. Running out the clock is all that can stop him, unless he runs for a 3rd term, which is highly likely with a personality such as it is. Don´t put it past him to bellyache the public should have a right to vote for the person of their choice, regardless of the constitutional restriction. His argument will be the two congressional chambers and the SC are not subject to term limits so why should he....

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Reply 24 - Posted by: dbdiva, 7/17/2014 1:47:18 PM     (No. 9928955)

It would be simpler (and cheaper) to inform our Fearless Reader that he either comply with Constitutional law or else Congress would confiscate his golf clubs and make it illegal for anyone to sell him new clubs. Oh.... and if that doesn´t do the trick he would be handcuffed to MO 24/7/365. I don´t imagine he would be happy about that.
If nothing else that would ensure that they only take ONE plane instead of two on their myriad vacations.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ebuilder, 7/17/2014 1:52:12 PM     (No. 9928962)

All you savvy republicans who know the democrat senate will do nothing forget one thing. If the truth is we have an illegal President -- is he? -- who is overthrowing, not just transforming the country -- is he? -- by bankrupting and overregulating and chaos making and invasion making and weakening us and our children and military everywhere, top down, bottom up, inside out without end and laughing at us from Martha´s Vineyard or Putin´s lap or the border -- is he? -- an "incompetent" who cannot be stopped by normal constitutional channels because the idiot/smart gobshite republicans and Diane say so -- and he plays golf and gets stoned with his plaything and covers up Benghazi and his scandals and laughs at you -- they, the savvy ones, therefore justify other edgier means of self defense to stop this treason which is the right of a free people. Not to mention these savvy gobshite republicans who are so far ahead as to know Obama is inviting his arrest or impeachment -- actually daring some savvy establishment republican drunk to arrest him -- are in the same boat with the liberal guy who automatically believes he is smarter than everybody -- this version being the guy who waits and waits because he is too savvy to restrain the treason because he KNOWS it cnnot not work, and he KNOWS elections could be lost, and he KNOWS conservatives [who say things like "DEPORT -- CLOSE THE BORDER -- CUT OFF THEIR MONEY"] are dangerous, and he KNOWS a race war involving his worst idea of black stereotype madmen would come more immediately than the WWIII scenario or collapse of America scenario starting next week that Obama and well funded, silent republicans have well in hand. "Stay savvy San Diego."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: nevernaught, 7/17/2014 2:32:11 PM     (No. 9929006)

I´m thinking more and more that Impeachment should wait until Republicans get control of both the Senate and House. If that happens then he could be Impeached in the House.

The problem with this whole procedure is that it takes a 2/3rd majority in the Senate to convict and remove him from office. That would take some Democrats to go along. If they didn´t, Republicans could make life miserable for the President and Democrats the last two years of office with program cancellations and whatnot.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 7/17/2014 3:55:27 PM     (No. 9929099)

No 3 is missing the point. They don´t care when or if the mandate is or is not established. They are looking for a case of Obama writing law. Only Congress can write law. If Obama does it he is usurping the authority of Congress. This gives the House "standing".

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Reply 28 - Posted by: loveUSA, 7/17/2014 5:06:36 PM     (No. 9929186)

Impeach Holder first and then King Barry.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: gone2pot, 7/17/2014 5:43:09 PM     (No. 9929245)

The ONE thing the Depends wearing bed wetters in the House can do that is actually effective against the tyrant-in-chief and is what they were hired to do is defund the executive orders, but they won´t because they are COWARDS. This lawsuit is exactly as powerful as the House crying, "I´m tellin´ Mom!!" Sad to see Gowdy get sucked into another GOP farce, playing right into the Cloward-Piven-Alinsky-ites...again, again.

And we laugh at the Babylonians for taking several weeks to realize Cyrus overtook them. We´re six years into the takeover and we still haven´t realized it.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: WIBadger, 7/17/2014 7:04:23 PM     (No. 9929320)

Of course they´re optimistic they will win. Why file it if they felt otherwise ? Let´s assume they´re proven right. Then what ? They wag their fingers & Barky continues to do what he´s been doing. SCOTUS be damned.....

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Washington Times, by Douglas Ernst    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 7/24/2014 12:11:56 AM     Post Reply
High-ranking U.S. officials said Wednesday that not only are Sunni radicals with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant “worse than al Qaeda,” but that the group has a message for the president: “We’re coming for you, Barack Obama.” Brett McGurk, the deputy assistant secretary of state, told lawmakers at a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that ISIL may have “changed its name,” but that it’s still al Qaeda. (Snip) Elissa Slotkin, the acting principal deputy undersecretary of Defense for policy, added that ISIL also has its eye on the president, threatening “We’re coming for you, Barack Obama,” The Hill reported.

Trey Gowdy Eviscerates IRS Commissioner
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Breitbart TV, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: mitzi- 7/23/2014 4:32:42 PM     Post Reply
Wednesday at a House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee hearing on the Internal Revenue Service´s (IRS) Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) would not let IRS Commissioner John Koskinen off the hook over his failure to bring acceptable answers to Congress about the supposed loss of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails. The South Carolina Republican warned the IRS commissioners, "Words have consequences," as he hammered Koskinen for trying to claim he did not pursue what happened to the emails because he did not want to interfere with the Inspector General investigation saying "people site ongoing IG investigations

The vacant presidency
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Washington Post, by Charles Krauthammer    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 7/24/2014 10:37:38 PM     Post Reply
The president’s demeanor is worrying a lot of people. From the immigration crisis on the Mexican border to the Islamic State rising in Mesopotamia, Barack Obama seems totally detached from the world’s convulsions. When he does interrupt his endless rounds of golf, fundraising and photo ops, it’s for some affectless, mechanical, almost forced public statement. Regarding Ukraine, his detachment — the rote, impassive voice — borders on dissociation. His U.N. ambassador, Samantha Power, delivers an impassioned denunciation of Russia. Obama cautions that we not “get out ahead of the facts,” as if the facts of this case — Vladimir Putin’s

Hillary Clinton Blames Bill’s
Mom for His Sex Addiction

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Boston Globe, by Lara Salahi    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 7/24/2014 2:19:51 PM     Post Reply
A year after news of the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, former First Lady Hillary Clinton allegedly told a Pulitzer-prize winning journalist that it was former President Bill Clinton’s abusive mother that caused his unfaithfulness and sex addiction, a new book claims. That journalist was Lucinda Franks and while her latest book, “Timeless: Love, Morgenthau, and Me,” doesn’t have much to do about the Clintons, the part that does offers never before reported information from a 1999 interview with the former First Lady. The New York Daily News obtained parts of the book a month before its scheduled August 2014 release.

Paul Ryan, 2016?
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Hot Air, by Noah Rothman    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/23/2014 1:12:58 PM     Post Reply
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), the Republican Party’s bookish former vice presidential nominee, is starting to look like a candidate for the presidency in 2016. In August, Ryan will publish a book with a distinctly campaign-themed title, The Way Forward. On Tuesday, the Federal Election Commission approved of a nationwide book tour sponsored by Ryan’s publisher and the Political Action Committee the Wisconsin congressman founded, Prosperity Action PAC. “The book will address “the state of the conservative movement in America today, discuss how it contrasts with liberal progressivism, and explain what must be done to save what Representative Ryan refers to as the

Loon population rebounding in Vermont
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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 7/23/2014 6:13:21 PM     Post Reply
Colchester – Experts estimate there are nearly 300 adult loons living on Vermont´s lakes and ponds, up from just a couple dozen 30 years ago. On Saturday, more than 200 volunteers spread out across Vermont for the annual loon survey. The results of the survey are trickling in, but Eric Hanson of the Vermont Center for Ecostudies and the coordinator of the Vermont Loon Conservation Project, said there are many more birds now than just a few years ago. He said 15 years ago there were around 100 loons. In 1983, biologists counted only 29. "It is a decent, stable population. I'm hoping that actually things do start to level out.

FEC chair warns of chilling regulations,
book ban on conservative publishers

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
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The chairman of the Federal Election Commission today blasted Democratic colleagues opposed to his effort to protect conservative media after they imposed rules on the publisher of Rep. Paul Ryan´s new book, opening the door to future book regulations -- or even a ban. "By failing to affirm this publisher’s constitutional right, statutory right, to disseminate a political book free from FEC conditions and regulations, we have effectively asserted regulatory jurisdiction over a book publisher,” warned Chairman Lee E. Goodman, one of three Republicans on the six-person FEC.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s
Twisted Anti-Vaxx History

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Daily Beast, by Russell Saunders    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/24/2014 5:13:54 AM     Post Reply
Despite multiple studies showing no link between vaccines and autism, RFK Jr. continues to use his position to spread that lie. What will it take to make him stop? If you’re headed to Capitol Hill with a cause, it helps to be a Kennedy. For Robert Kennedy Jr., scion of America’s most storied political family, all it takes is his name to arrange face-to-face meetings with two powerful Senators. As a physician who has traveled to Washington, D.C., with health-care advocacy groups on a number of occasions, I envy the access he displays in a recent profile in The Washington

Opponents say prolonged
execution offers more evidence for
challenge to lethal injection

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 7/24/2014 6:15:03 PM     Post Reply
ST. LOUIS – The nation´s third botched execution in six months offers more evidence for the courts that lethal injection carries too many risks and amounts to cruel and unusual punishment, death-row lawyers and other opponents said Thursday. Death-penalty opponents say the execution of an Arizona inmate who took two hours to die shows that state experiments with different drugs and dosages are a callous trial-and-error process. The result: Every few months, an inmate gasps, chokes and takes an unusually long time to die. "These executions are experiments on human subjects," said Cheryl Pilate, an attorney for several Missouri death-row


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