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The costly fantasy of impeaching Obama
Washington Times, by Wesley Pruden

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Posted By:StormCnter, 7/15/2014 5:12:58 AM

The Democrats owe a growing debt to the Republican red-hots pursuing the fantasy of impeaching Barack Obama. They’re collecting a lot of cash — probably not as much as they claim, but a lot — from the naive and excitable folks in the Democratic base. Outrage is easily convertible to cash, as every bagman knows, and the Republicans should get a cut of it. Fair is fair. Sarah Palin, who as a former governor knows better than to confuse hoping with doing, is leading the baying hounds this week. She told an audience the other day that “the many impeachable offenses

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: steph_gray, 7/15/2014 5:24:11 AM     (No. 9924883)

Falls short of bribery or treason, eh?

I remember way back around the 2008 campaign there was a clear incident of bribery, something to do with the Obammunist´s buying a Senate seat - a Jack Cashill story IIRC.

And treason? Look no further than Benghazi.

Prudent is writing foolishness here.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: steph_gray, 7/15/2014 5:24:50 AM     (No. 9924884)

Sorry, Pruden - autocorrect bites again...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Spidey, 7/15/2014 5:28:24 AM     (No. 9924887)

I guess,according to Pruden and his ilk,Obama needs to decapitate a baby on national TV to be impeached. Aiding and abetting a silent invasion of this country means nothing.It´ll create 1000´s of bilingual teachers,medical aids etc. if nothing else. Already overcrowd prisons can always make room for new illegal criminals.They could even release old criminal aliensto makeroom.Ooops,Obama has already done that.

What aboutinterferringin the internalafars of othersoverign cuntries,such as demanding Mubarak leave offce and bombing the dog snotout of Gadiffi who was ahalfway decent world player at the time.What abut the gross negligence on ISIS formulating over 2 years without a single stern letter from Obama.

Of curse the lists goes on and on,lust like having Holder shake banks down with fines for doing exactly what they were forced to do by community activists like Obama. Obama was a party to a CITIbank lawsuit to pressure them into making for foolish subprime loans.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: John c, 7/15/2014 5:32:43 AM     (No. 9924890)

Hey Wesley, I think the threat is worth the effort. The sign I hold is "Fish rot from the head, Impeach Obama". The reaction I get is very satisfying. MA will elect a lot more Republicans this Fall.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: grace1798, 7/15/2014 5:55:17 AM     (No. 9924913)

Anyone who hates what the Tea Party wants and what Sarah Palin is fighting for is an enemy of our nation and any hope for the prosperity of United States of America.....or what it was and could be again. I do not trust anyone who makes up charges against those who are fighting for restoration of our nation and our freedoms. That IS the bottom line.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: planetgeo, 7/15/2014 6:19:33 AM     (No. 9924952)

I understand the thinking (including by some on this forum) that pushing for impeachment prior to the critical November election may be counter-productive. However, if Obama isn´t considered impeach-worthy then nobody is or ever will be.

Seriously, has anyone ever so brazenly acted in such an unconstitutional manner? Why split legal hairs trying to ascertain whether he has committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" when almost everything he does is unconstitutional and is a textbook definition of a dictator ?
Our founders would be shocked that our Congress and our Supreme Court have not yet stopped him. He is precisely what our founders sought to avoid, and ultimately remove, with the constitution they created.

And stop with the reminders that the Democrat-controlled Senate wouldn´t vote to remove him from office. The only question that´s relevant is has he repeatedly disobeyed and subverted the constitution that he took an oath to defend. And the answer is clearly and unequivocally, yes. Impeach.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Policom, 7/15/2014 6:26:58 AM     (No. 9924957)

How long does the CEO of a corporation get to destroy the company he works for? Obama works for U.S. And I think he´s destroyed enough. Get Him Out! Impeach!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: OhMy, 7/15/2014 6:31:48 AM     (No. 9924962)

High Crimes means crimes which can only be committed by the holder of a high office. It refers to their maladministration and shredding the constitution as Obama is doing. The crimes of Obama affect everybody while other crimes only affect the person being killed and their family. This is not an ordinary crime that anyone can commit like murder! Obama is transforming the country as he promised which is a high crime. He is transforming it from a prosperous world power to a third world tin pot dictatorship. It is a disaster for every citizen. Should we all ignore this because Eric the Holder will say we are all racists? We proved we were not racist by electing Obama the first time but we failed to prove we were not fools by electing him the second time.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 7/15/2014 6:36:27 AM     (No. 9924971)

You point is well taken, #6, but it is also true that the founders never envisioned a country in which half the population, the Congress and the judiciary would be in thrall to a twisted, collectivist ideology which, for them, overrides all principles of law, republicanism and self-government.

That grim reality tends to complicate things.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: Country Boy, 7/15/2014 6:42:41 AM     (No. 9924981)

I´d settle for a final showdown with the long-form Birth Certificate w/official seal on it. Either put up or shove off.

And he hasn´t got it, so GET OUT!!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/15/2014 6:43:14 AM     (No. 9924983)

True, #9, in addition to a complicit, cheerleading media.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: cyberspace cadet, 7/15/2014 8:21:21 AM     (No. 9925110)

Your member of Congress needs to be on the record with an impeachment vote. Their job is to vote on the important issues of the day; if they don´t want to do that they should go home and stay home. Tell them!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 7/15/2014 8:24:30 AM     (No. 9925113)

So Obama is totally allowed to ruin this nation and nothing can be done about it because he is black? Rubbish. Donations to the Republicans are down because they are meekly accepting what ever Obama orders, few are fighting back. Meanwhile Americans are appalled daily over the deliberate destruction of our healthcare, our military, our borders and the dimming future for our children and grandchildren. If Obama can´t be impeached then we might as well strike impeachment out of the Constitution because it is meaningless.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: marthaville, 7/15/2014 8:38:55 AM     (No. 9925139)

You guys don´t get it. Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer will block any attempt at impeachment. Say what you will, but there is nothing Republicans can do other than taking a symbolic vote. As Pruden points out, the Dems win the battle and damage Republicans´ attempt to take control of the Senate.

So give it a rest. Purity will do nothing for the Republicans. Things could be different with a Republican controlled Senate. Republicans must play a long game. It has worked very well for the Democrats over the years. Have Republicans learned nothing?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/15/2014 8:45:42 AM     (No. 9925156)

A futile gesture such as preparing a doomed bill of impeachment accomplishes nothing but to make us feel good. While we´re getting warm fuzzies, we´re diverting attention from the urgent crises, wasting energy, time and money. The only route to reclaiming the country is at the voting booth, beginning in November.


Vote!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 7/15/2014 8:51:51 AM     (No. 9925167)

Even if O´bammy was impeached I doubt if he would step down - he´d consider it an unconstitutional move and ignore it. Who would stop him? I can´t believe after all this clown has done that he will leave office without the stain of impeachment on him. Clinton, after all, was impeached for lying about an airstart in the oval office. Ah, the good old days. We have fallen so far so fast in such a short time.....

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Susannah, 7/15/2014 8:52:03 AM     (No. 9925168)

#13, It probably is meaningless in a practical sense. As Pruden points out, it´s never worked historically. Obama would be acquitted by the senate, and, like Clinton, he´d probably become more popular.

This is the worse kind of symbolic gesture, because it would not only be doomed, but it would be destructive to conservative interests.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: enuf8, 7/15/2014 8:54:42 AM     (No. 9925176)

# 14 - Reid and Schumer are in the Senate. The House does not need their vote to impeach nor can they cast a vote for impeachment. The House can impeach. The spineless Senate dominated by DEMS and RINOs most likely won´t Convict and throw him out of office.

If one believes in obama´s story of his birth, researchers have indicated he is half white, 6-1/3% BLACK and 43-2/3s ARAB. Let´s impeach the White/Arab make-up of him.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Coy860, 7/15/2014 8:56:44 AM     (No. 9925179)

THE costly fantasy was ELECTING Obama.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Axeman, 7/15/2014 9:01:08 AM     (No. 9925189)

The reasons and evidence to impeach Zipw0n are clear. Many times over. The ability and the will are not there at all. The resident has been given a clear message that there is nothing he can´t do, and nothing he does will cause his impeachment. We are living the tyranny of that decision. It can´t get better with meaningless threats being bantered about.
At last, his own party is starting to resist him. Our only hope lies in that direction, not with the Repubs.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: chumley, 7/15/2014 9:01:28 AM     (No. 9925190)

This reminds me of trying to have a discussion with a college kid. In trying to appear wise, they consider every possible angle and nuance, to the point that the original question gets clouded or lost.
Original question...Has the president committed high crimes and misdemeanors? If yes, has any other remedy (such as congressional action) stopped the behavior?

See? We make things way too complicated.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: misterdickens, 7/15/2014 9:04:14 AM     (No. 9925198)

I like what #12 says. I like Pruden a lot. One of the best writers of all time. Don´t agree here for bunches of reasons.

Incompetence is absolutely grounds for impeachment, by the way.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: OhMy, 7/15/2014 10:17:19 AM     (No. 9925323)

There are many posts here on the theme this is not the right time to fight, fight next time. I heard that before. I think it was when the balanced budget amendment was discussed but the GOP strategists said they would fight on the debt ceiling. Remember that! The GOP and many posters here are actually quite consistent in sticking to their principles. Lets fight next time! They are saying it now and when next time comes these strategic geniuses will say the same.

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SALMON Idaho - Freed war prisoner Bowe Bergdahl has not yet reached out to his parents who campaigned hard for his freedom and who hold out hope he will eventually contact them once fully recovered from trauma inflicted by his Taliban captors, a family friend said on Friday. Stefanie O´Neill, who is in regular contact with Bergdahl´s mother, said the U.S. soldier´s parents were strained both by their son´s silence since his May 31 release and because of death threats being investigated by the FBI. "Bob and Jani are under more strain than ever, but they are trying to be patient," O´Neill


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