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Lie at Heart of “Immigration
Reform” Exposed

Daily Caller, by Mickey Kaus

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Posted By:Toledo, 7/15/2014 12:11:48 AM

“Trust” is for Con Men: The reaction to the border chaos in Texas has accomplished one thing: It has exploded the lie at the heart of current “comprehensive” immigration reform plans. The basic structure of those plans is a swap of a) near-immediate legalization for b) increased border security in the future. The appealing idea is to let current illegals stay while taking the steps necessary to prevent further waves. The lie is the assumption that, once current illegals get their legalization, pro-immigrant activists in both parties will continue to support the second half of the bargain, the increased security. The

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/15/2014 12:22:49 AM     (No. 9924765)

How many of the go-alongs have said "Not in my back yard" ?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: chicodon, 7/15/2014 12:39:08 AM     (No. 9924777)

I think we would be wise to look at the possibility of the resurrection of the North American Union push. We thought we killed it. Money is about to be spent on the Mexican high speed rail link from Texas to ports in Mexico. It would explain a lot regarding both parties´ ambivalence to the open border issue.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: enuf8, 7/15/2014 1:05:08 AM     (No. 9924796)

The RINOs learned nothing during the Reagan years......the DEMS pulled the same stunt once before and it was only 3 million at the time. Now it´s probably closer to 25 mil or more.......including terrorists and mafia, drug dealers, killers, rapist, etc, etc.

We´ve been there, done that! Now it is time to close the border and deport anyone who is illegal.....no welfare, medical, food stamps and no sending more IRS refunds to the same address that count up to 4600 or more. No social security assistance checks to P.O. Boxes near the border for 100´s or more checks going to one box. We need reform, alright, just NOT what the RINOs and DEMs want.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: EQKimball, 7/15/2014 2:27:44 AM     (No. 9924834)

All governments south of the Rio Grand should be advised the the U.S. will deduct from foreign aid all sums necessary to house, feed, educate and provide medical assistance to their citizens illegally crossing our borders. How they fix the problem is up to them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: nerdowell, 7/15/2014 2:34:53 AM     (No. 9924838)

Reply #2 might well be onto something: perhaps it is about more than Hussein´s vindictiveness, or padding the dem voter roles, or providing cheap domestic labor for his real constituents.

I recall hearing a reference to this scenario from a guy in software. I disregarded it, having heard nothing about it in the media. That alone is reason to be curious.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/15/2014 2:53:01 AM     (No. 9924842)

#4, somewhere I read that the sum total of foreign aid to the countries from whence the deluge is coming is less than a billion dollars.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Trigger2, 7/15/2014 4:45:18 AM     (No. 9924867)

Why does current immigration law need to be changed? I can remember back in the 50s when illegals were scared of INS and illegals were deported wherever they were found. The only reason I can think of is that the goobermint quit enforcing the law and the public is subject to lies after lies after lies to keep up the non-enforcement.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: grace1798, 7/15/2014 6:13:54 AM     (No. 9924945)

THE PLAN is to destroy USA. SO lies have to come to PLAY you all so no one will stop this from coming to pass. DUH people....wake up!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: chatham, 7/15/2014 7:12:23 AM     (No. 9925014)

Think , Cloward and Piven, How to destroy Capitalism and America !

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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/15/2014 7:23:34 AM     (No. 9925028)

#2, the proposed high-speed rail line is only under discussion and there is a LOT of opposition. Even the rosiest predictions are for at "least a decade" before any passenger could take the high-speed ride.

It´s very unlikely to happen, at least not soon.

Right now, anybody can ride a train to the border, then take a Mexican train. I´ve done it several times.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bpl40, 7/15/2014 7:51:18 AM     (No. 9925058)

#6, their citizens are being given billions and billions in public aid and services HERE. They don´t need it there.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: eoddad, 7/15/2014 7:56:03 AM     (No. 9925063)

Its amazing what a few pieces of silver from the Chamber of Commerce can buy from the Republicans.

Poor and Middle class Americans standard of living will be down there with Mexico if they have their way.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/15/2014 8:20:21 AM     (No. 9925108)

Our "great benevolent" titans of industry need the flood of illegals for their workforce. Seems to me that these billionaires should cease any hypocritical philanthropic endeavors since they obviously are only interested in slave labor. They are not content with their billions, but have an insatiable appetite for more money. They could pay their American workers a decent wage but that would effect their bottom line and they can´t have that. They will cast aside any American worker in order to feed their greed. This is all about money. Follow it and you will find the source of their "compassion for illegals". Big business is greasing the pockets of their favorite easily bribed politicians which is the perfect pairing of corporate greed and political power. It is a devil of a match up for the American worker. It is not just the titans of industry either. This practice is rampant in business period especially construction crews. The working poor is being decimated.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: congar, 7/15/2014 9:00:36 AM     (No. 9925187)

There is only one accurate word for the ‘Legalization First, Security Later’ backers: LIARS.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 7/15/2014 9:05:33 AM     (No. 9925204)

We´ve been through this lie before.

Our politicians are the biggest lairs to have ever lived up to this time in history.

It would seem they are all in agreement that America needs destroyed as founded and our constitution shredded and burned.

Destruction from within just as predicted by those who have opposed America forever.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Freeloader, 7/15/2014 10:02:07 AM     (No. 9925302)

The biggest "lie" of all?...The massive criminal illegal alien problem in America being referred to as simply "immigration reform" among the ranks of The White House riffraff, U.S. Chamber of Commerce "fat cats," Congressional Dark Siders, Republicrat Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys and the "bought and paid for" whores in the Democrat controlled Dark Side MSM.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Roberto 22, 7/15/2014 10:02:10 AM     (No. 9925303)

#6-Wow,. You make it sound like 6 billion is chump change. You must be a liberal....

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dman, 7/15/2014 10:08:25 AM     (No. 9925308)

Fool us once ..

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/15/2014 10:21:42 AM     (No. 9925325)

Servicemen and women are getting pink slips because of budget cuts. No money should be used to resettle these illegal leaches.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: OhMy, 7/15/2014 10:45:07 AM     (No. 9925362)

This amnesty first security later lie started back in the Reagan years and has been repeated many times. We must all insist on security or nothing especially now with Obama punishing us for not falling for this con again. It is good to see a few more eyes opened!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: trapper, 7/15/2014 10:50:59 AM     (No. 9925372)

#2- Of course it is about the formation of the North American Community. It has ALWAYS been about forming the North American Community. Google "Building a North American Community CFR" and click on the first result to download a pdf of the Council on Foreign Relations paper. They have never given up on that.

Think about it. When ISIS put into action its plan to build a new caliphate stretching from the Mediterranean to Iran what is the first thing they did? They destroyed the border between Syria and Iraq. The northern border between Syria and Iraq no longer exists. Likewise America´s southern border. It effectively no longer exists.

But that´s not all. A perfect storm slammed into the southern US border. The CFR types who want a North American Community, the Chamber of Commerce folks who want cheap, illegal, off-the-books labor, Democrats who want more lofo voters (and if they can´t speak English all the better because they can´t ask questions), the LaRaza types who want to repopulate the US with red people, the far left who are in favor of anything that would destroy America, the black racists who want to eliminate the white majority by flooding the county with brown people, and the amnesty-Republicans who are desperate to just hold on to what they have until they die and then "who cares?" In the face of it all, who is left to defend America? Who will?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: chicodon, 7/15/2014 11:32:25 AM     (No. 9925431)

#10
You are right about the high speed passenger service. I should have concentrated on the freight service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_L%C3%A1zaro_C%C3%A1rdenas

As you can see, container traffic into the US via the southern leg of transportation corridor envisioned in the NAU talks has been increasingly growing.

I´m not really suggesting anything yet but a lot of money has been spent on the project. Just something to keep an eye on.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: strike3, 7/15/2014 11:46:22 AM     (No. 9925465)

"I´ll pay you a quarter tomorrow for a hamburger today."

It was a lie then and it´s a lie now. We need total border security now, deport all illegals, then we´ll talk. Problem is, we already have enough terrorists in the country to cause some real trouble when they decide to act. I´m talking thousands dead and billions in destruction. Wait for it.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: jond, 7/15/2014 11:52:51 AM     (No. 9925480)

Certainly one of the dirvers for NAFTA and improved transportation from Mexican ports to US cities is the stranglehold on the West Coast Shipping by the Longshoreman´s Union.

In addition to their economic agenda, which is to set themselves up as toll collectors for all trans-oceanic shipping, they have a political agendy. They have long been Communist influenced and led. Obama´s father was in Hawaii to try to organize the longshoremen to help China build its influence in the far east, and during the First Gulf War the unions tried to block shippment of military goods to the theater of conflict.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: LeftCoast, 7/15/2014 12:26:10 PM     (No. 9925567)

How about we send them to Oahu...maybe then The One will pay attention.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 7/15/2014 1:48:37 PM     (No. 9925779)

Glaringly absent from this article is any mention of Cecilia Munoz who is director of the White House Domestic Policy Council. Munoz is a card carrying member of La Raza. If the truth be known, she and Jarrett are the ones who created and continue to encourage this outrageous lawless invasion. I guess none of them (including that oh so brilliant "Constitutional" lawyer Obama) have read Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

How long is that list now for impeachable offenses?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Socio, 7/15/2014 6:10:21 PM     (No. 9926167)

#7 We don’t need any reform just our laws enforced, they have completely stopped work place raids, they release convicted criminal illegal immigrants back in to the US population by the 10’s of 1000’s instead of deporting them etc…

In fact Obama has deported less than any other president, the Border Patrol is in virtual stand down; here is a picture of my local BP & Customs office on the border taken a few days ago that must have 75-100 BP & Custom vehicles sitting in the parking lot instead of out enforcing the border.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2eyz8mf.jpg

What we are witnessing is the deliberate destruction of the US by a radical out of control regime and a tin pot dictator.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bighambone, 7/15/2014 6:12:13 PM     (No. 9926171)

The so-called immigration activists are a big time special interest group, allied with the liberal Democrats, whose mission in life is to liberalize the immigration laws into ineffectiveness so that as many aliens as possible, mostly all poor and uneducated, can come or stay in the USA, become legalized, and ultimately register as new Democrat voters. This special interest group is not going away, and even if a massive liberal Democrat amnesty becomes law, those immigration activists will move on to oppose and sabotage all seemingly effective immigration law enforcement measures that are a part of that "comprehensive" immigration reform, to ensure that large numbers of new illegal aliens continue to come to the USA as "seed" for the next big amnesty that the liberal Democrats will begin pushing in a few years.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: jerseytomato, 7/15/2014 7:26:16 PM     (No. 9926243)

#6 - the US is currently partnering with Mexico with regard to the food stamp program.

Blows the billion dollar sum out of the water.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/16/2014 12:31:59 AM     (No. 9926592)

#17 and #30, I mentioned the billion dollar figure only to point out that killing the foreign aid, as another poster suggested, wouldn´t offset what we spend on illegals.



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American Thinker, by Lauri B Regan    Original Article
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The anti-war president has finally found a way to wag the dog without upsetting his liberal base and war-weary electorate. Despite the beheading of two Americans, establishment of an Islamic caliphate, direct threats to the U.S. homeland, and the destabilization of the entire Middle East, Obama refuses to acknowledge that we are at war with barbaric Islamic jihadists. And he refuses to authorize the requisite boots on the ground. However, Obama just discovered his pre-midterm election method of wagging the dog -- distracting from his incompetent and dangerous response (or lack thereof) to the real threats to America’s national security

Obama Says Senate Vote To Arm
Syrian Rebels Was US Politics
´At Its Best´

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Business Insider, by Hunter Walker    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/19/2014 5:13:01 AM     Post Reply
The U.S Senate passed a bill Thursday evening that will give President Barack Obama the authority to arm moderate Syrian rebels, which is a key part of his plan to fight the jihadist group Islamic State (also known as ISIS and ISIL). Shortly after the Senate passed the bill, which was passed by the House on Wednesday, Obama spoke from the White House. "I´m pleased that Congress, a majority of Democrats and a majority of Republicans in both the House and Senate, have now voted to support a key element of our strategy," Obama said. Obama, who reiterated the fact

John Kerry: US At War With
The ´Enemy of Islam´

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Jordan Schachtel    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/19/2014 3:17:20 PM     Post Reply
On Thursday In a session with the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State John Kerry was asked by Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) whether America was at war in Iraq and Syria. (Video) Kerry responded: “If you’re more comfortable calling it a war against this enemy of Islam then please do so. We’re happy to call it that.” So its official: America is at war with the enemy of Islam. However, strange bedfellows arise if the Obama administration so chooses to uphold Kerry’s claim that we are at war with the enemy(s) of Islam. The following displays that Secretary

Where is Our Voice in the Wilderness
Touting Conservatism?

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Canada Free Press, by Lloyd Marcus    Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself- 9/18/2014 6:33:24 AM     Post Reply
For crying out loud, will someone “pleeeeease” take a stand for Conservatism? Someone forwarded this article to me, “Why Are Republicans Suddenly Leaning Left?” The article cites numerous examples of the GOP obviously believing it must embrace at least lukewarm Liberalism while backing away from Conservatism to win elections.The article mentioned that Mitt Romney avoided saying “Republican” in an ad supporting Scott Brown’s Senate run. Romney said in the ad referring to Brown, “will buck his own party to do what’s right for New Hampshire.” Romney’s statement implies that Conservatism can be mean, but rest assured that Brown will push

WSJ: Obama will require military to get his
personal approval for U.S. strikes in Syria

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Hot Air, by Allahpundit    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 9/18/2014 3:08:29 PM     Post Reply
A man who’s a better speechwriter than his speechwriters, a better political director than his political directors, and who knows more about policy than his policy advisors must surely also be a better general than his generals, no? The U.S. military campaign against Islamist militants in Syria is being designed to allow President Barack Obama to exert a high degree of personal control, going so far as to require that the military obtain presidential signoff for strikes in Syrian territory, officials said. The requirements for strikes in Syria against the extremist group Islamic State will be far more stringent than those targeting


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