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A standing-only section on planes
could mean lower fares, study says

Los Angeles Times, by Hugo Martin

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Posted By:JoniTx, 7/6/2014 2:12:14 PM

Would you buy a bargain-priced airline ticket, but the catch was you had to stand for the entire flight? A new university study says the idea of standing-only sections on planes is no joke. An airline that removes seats can fit about 20% more passengers and, as a result, offer discounts of as much as 44% compared with airlines that offer big comfy seats, according to the study published in the International Journal of Engineering and Technology. Airlines in Ireland and China have looked into the concept, but none have yet put the idea into practice. Major carriers in the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 7/6/2014 2:15:16 PM     (No. 9912953)

This is crazy. You have so little protection in an airplane in the case of a rough landing or survivable crash. IMO this equates to riding a motorcycle while wearing no shirt, shorts, and flipflops and no helmet.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hairy Eyeball, 7/6/2014 2:19:48 PM     (No. 9912956)

Wouldn´t this be racist to anyone other than Caucasians? ;)

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Reply 3 - Posted by: EQKimball, 7/6/2014 2:19:58 PM     (No. 9912957)

No, but I would pay more for 1980´s style air travel: Full meal, more leg room, gracious cabin crew, reasonable baggage allowance, on-time service.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 7/6/2014 2:20:49 PM     (No. 9912959)

The FAA would never go for it and it they did, it would be yet another field day for ambulance chasing lawyers.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 7/6/2014 2:24:11 PM     (No. 9912962)

This is the 0bamaNation smoking mirror way of getting more people to ride the plane to pay "extra taxes" being mandated for his jackbooted, but lazy TSA. Oh, and it´s a true cynical approach to remind him who has the pen and phone. This is purely an asinine idea to show how backwards we will go to serve "his" purposes (as sheep).

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/6/2014 2:25:48 PM     (No. 9912964)

´´flights of less than 3 hours..´ (and 2 more on the tarmac)
I think not.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Grampstosix, 7/6/2014 2:25:59 PM     (No. 9912965)

Aren´t passengers supposed to be seated and strapped in during take off and landing?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mushroom, 7/6/2014 2:51:58 PM     (No. 9912980)

Lost me at ´big comfy seats´. Where??

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Keekng, 7/6/2014 3:22:32 PM     (No. 9912999)

Having been on a number of company aircraft during test flights it is not abnormal to be standing or even in the flight station during take offs and landings. Allowing paying passengers to not have seats brings on a whole new set of issues and potential liability.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/6/2014 3:23:02 PM     (No. 9913001)

Doesn´t sound any less comfortable than flying tourist class. Will they at least provide a bucket, just in case nature calls? The Nazis did.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: The Maggster, 7/6/2014 3:35:15 PM     (No. 9913021)

I confess to not reading this article. The headline alone is ridiculous. Who in God´s earth thinks up this stuff? I´m starting to think there is a conspiracy to drive all reasonable, thinking Americans into deep depression, extreme anger or maybe we should just head for hills... away from society until hopefully Americans gain their common sense back.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 7/6/2014 3:40:16 PM     (No. 9913023)

Maybe fill the aircraft with tiers of narrow bunks like a submarine. At least you could lie down.

Thankfully I don´t have to fly anymore. It´s become a monumental hassle and expense.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: coldoc, 7/6/2014 3:45:53 PM     (No. 9913030)

Stupid concept, even dumber article. The FAA would never let it fly.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: obviousity, 7/6/2014 3:50:25 PM     (No. 9913035)

This concept started in Europe with super discount airfares for those month long vacations of the steerage class. Europe the bringer of such other stellar ideas like planes that ignore pilot commands, won´t land on runways, preferring trees. Europeans the heady unwashed, sloshing around in the rear shifting the balance of the aircraft beyond control.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Calico Al, 7/6/2014 3:50:30 PM     (No. 9913036)

It reminds me of the old saying on the movie Marquee -- Immediate seating on all floors. When you went in the seats were full and there was a lot of people sitting on the floors.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 7/6/2014 3:52:12 PM     (No. 9913037)

You won´t really have to stand, y´know. You´ll be allowed to sit on the floor with your crate of chickens and the baby goat.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: cartcart, 7/6/2014 3:54:32 PM     (No. 9913041)

No! I do not to have an aisle seat with someone´ s fat butt in my face.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rama41, 7/6/2014 4:14:28 PM     (No. 9913060)

I think they ought to bring back gliders, a la WWII. The 777 or 380 can then just take off, circle around, and snatch up a glider full of paying passengers, dropping them off either at the aircraft´s destination or another airport enroute, then continuing on to the towing aircraft´s original destination. Think of the fuel they´d save while increasing revenues!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/6/2014 4:16:43 PM     (No. 9913065)

This is loony toons. And get thisinfo aout this "university study":

The study’s author, Fairuz I. Romli, an aerospace engineering professor and lecturer at the Universiti Putra Malaysia, said passengers would probably only be comfortable standing on flights shorter than three hours.

Fairuz should be more concerned about Malaysian airlines and how to keep them from losing aircraft full of passengers.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Islander, 7/6/2014 5:40:00 PM     (No. 9913143)

Ryan Air ran this up the flag pole a couple of years ago. Nobody saluted.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: galbaccr, 7/6/2014 6:15:31 PM     (No. 9913162)

This is often a normal practice in third world countries. Those who think the FAA won´t accept it forget that they work for Obama and he´s intent on us becoming a third world nation (wasn´t that the hopey-changey thing anyway?). In Vietnam, our Air Force used to at least strap the locals down to the floor with tie-down straps (though Americans had to be in seats with seat belts on). I don´t think the Vietnamese bothered with that nicety on their flights. In fact, I recall a case where a Vietnamese pilot flew 13 Vietnamese in the back (blue room) of an A1E - which was meant to accomodate 4 people. They obviously were not restrained.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hugh Akston, 7/6/2014 6:37:50 PM     (No. 9913178)

#18 - the person in the middle seat is so "oversized" that they are in your face anyway...and everywhere else.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/6/2014 7:43:52 PM     (No. 9913226)

More passengers equal more luggage.

What about the maximum weight limit ?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 7/6/2014 9:05:58 PM     (No. 9913278)

Horizontalize your passengers and they will take up the same amount of room in great comfort.

The barrier here is about social taboos not transportational efficiency.

Does no one remember "Pullman Cars" ?

Is everything run by idiots ?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Lucky4, 7/7/2014 2:29:19 AM     (No. 9913394)

the reality is, if this ever happened, they would all be fighting to sit down in the empty seats on the place. How strange would this be?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: DaddyO, 7/7/2014 6:30:10 AM     (No. 9913441)

Sitting on top of the wings is probably also being considered.

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